Can you mix Glutamine with coffee

[2klude]

I was just wondering if you can mix Glutamine with warm coffee?

thank you

[BlueRev]

Yes.

[powerhouse3434]

I was just wondering if you can mix Glutamine with warm coffee?

thank you

Sure. However there's no reason to supplement glutamine.

[corepuncher]

Sure. However there's no reason to supplement glutamine.

Yeah, no reason. Jay Cutler doesn't know what he's doing when he eats spoonfuls of glutamine every day. If only he would browse the bodybuilding.com forums, he would surely win his 5th Mr. Olympia!

[powerhouse3434]

Yeah, no reason. Jay Cutler doesn't know what he's doing when he eats spoonfuls of glutamine every day. If only he would browse the bodybuilding.com forums, he would surely win his 5th Mr. Olympia!

Lol. Ya bud its obviously the glutamine to blame for his success... not the years of using steroids and GH.

/facepalm

[joregorn]

Yeah, no reason. Jay Cutler doesn't know what he's doing when he eats spoonfuls of glutamine every day. If only he would browse the bodybuilding.com forums, he would surely win his 5th Mr. Olympia!

What in the actual fuk are you talking about?

[robertmm94]

Yeah, no reason. Jay Cutler doesn't know what he's doing when he eats spoonfuls of glutamine every day. If only he would browse the bodybuilding.com forums, he would surely win his 5th Mr. Olympia!

Made me laugh, thank you.

anabolics,slin,Gh, and huge amounts of food surely didnt do much. Must have been the glutamine


Not to say its completely useless. But unless your an endurance athlete or want to use it for digestion purposes, i wouldn't waste my money.

[Fbeckenbauer]

Yeah, no reason. Jay Cutler doesn't know what he's doing when he eats spoonfuls of glutamine every day. If only he would browse the bodybuilding.com forums, he would surely win his 5th Mr. Olympia!

[snorkelman]

for best results, glutamine should be stacked with deer antler velvet.

[Sarcobium]

Yeah, no reason. Jay Cutler doesn't know what he's doing when he eats spoonfuls of glutamine every day. If only he would browse the bodybuilding.com forums, he would surely win his 5th Mr. Olympia!

you got your anabolic amino acids mixed up. He's on el-glatamine.

[Valhallabound86]

True story: I put three scoops of glutamine and a few drops of deer antler velvet in a soaking tub with hot water. Soaked for about 20 minutes and woke up with Mr. Olympia trophies on my mantle.

Also, my house grew a mantle during my soaking time.

[JayLS1-327]

for best results, glutamine should be stacked with deer antler velvet.

I added CEE to that mixture and got taller !!
I used to be 5' 7"

[coloBB]

glutamine threads always bring the lulz....

[lucia316]

Yeah, no reason. Jay Cutler doesn't know what he's doing when he eats spoonfuls of glutamine every day. If only he would browse the bodybuilding.com forums, he would surely win his 5th Mr. Olympia!

This along with your AVI gave me the best laugh I've had in a couple of days...thanks!

BRB, buying glutamine for the first time since 1999 so I can be like Cutler.

[mcal07]

Broscience? Lots of studies that debunk its use, and many others for it.

"glutamine supplementation is crucial post-workout because it causes cell volumization and activates leucine uptake, both of which are needed to maximally turn on protein synthesis. Leucine may be the trigger for protein synthesis, but a cell needs to load up on glutamine before leucine is imported. Supply a large amount of glutamine or glutamine peptides along with your post-workout nutrition (preferably immediately post-workout), and protein synthesis will turn on faster, better exploiting the anabolic window leading to faster recovery and more long-term gains." - Bill Willis, PHD

I'll take cheap glutamine over some $80 pre-workout stimulant with fancy labels... WAY more bang for your buck.

[dandaman5984]

I was just wondering if you can mix Glutamine with warm coffee?

thank you

Why would you want to ruin a perfectly good cup of coffee?

As stated above, mix that shyt into some deer antler velvet spray = gainz for dayz

[Enso]

Broscience? Lots of studies that debunk its use, and many others for it.

"glutamine supplementation is crucial post-workout because it causes cell volumization and activates leucine uptake, both of which are needed to maximally turn on protein synthesis. Leucine may be the trigger for protein synthesis, but a cell needs to load up on glutamine before leucine is imported. Supply a large amount of glutamine or glutamine peptides along with your post-workout nutrition (preferably immediately post-workout), and protein synthesis will turn on faster, better exploiting the anabolic window leading to faster recovery and more long-term gains." - Bill Willis, PHD

I'll take cheap glutamine over some $80 pre-workout stimulant with fancy labels... WAY more bang for your buck.

There's nothing wrong with adding some L-Glutamine to a post workout shake, but as he stated Glutamine Peptides are sufficient which are found in abundance in whey protein. It would be better imho to spike a post workout shake with L-Leucine, but that's just my Brothesis.

[Valhallabound86]

Broscience? Lots of studies that debunk its use, and many others for it.

"glutamine supplementation is crucial post-workout because it causes cell volumization and activates leucine uptake, both of which are needed to maximally turn on protein synthesis. Leucine may be the trigger for protein synthesis, but a cell needs to load up on glutamine before leucine is imported. Supply a large amount of glutamine or glutamine peptides along with your post-workout nutrition (preferably immediately post-workout), and protein synthesis will turn on faster, better exploiting the anabolic window leading to faster recovery and more long-term gains." - Bill Willis, PHD

I'll take cheap glutamine over some $80 pre-workout stimulant with fancy labels... WAY more bang for your buck.

olawd

[snorkelman]

"glutamine supplementation is crucial post-workout because ...

^^^ utter crap. Where did you find that nonsense? Men's Health? some supplement ad?

[lucia316]

Broscience? Lots of studies that debunk its use, and many others for it.

"glutamine supplementation is crucial post-workout because it causes cell volumization and activates leucine uptake, both of which are needed to maximally turn on protein synthesis. Leucine may be the trigger for protein synthesis, but a cell needs to load up on glutamine before leucine is imported. Supply a large amount of glutamine or glutamine peptides along with your post-workout nutrition (preferably immediately post-workout), and protein synthesis will turn on faster, better exploiting the anabolic window leading to faster recovery and more long-term gains." - Bill Willis, PHD

I'll take cheap glutamine over some $80 pre-workout stimulant with fancy labels... WAY more bang for your buck.

Except that isn't a study...That's a quote. A quote that is talking about an anabolic window (LOL). As Enso said, if you're meeting your macro you're getting plenty of glutamine, so even if glutamine did something from a muscle recovery or hypertrophy perspective, you don't need supplemental glutamine.

So no, the pre-workout would be way more bang for the buck since supplemental glutamine doesn't do anything anyway.

You don't NEED a post workout shake either. So yes, it's broscience.

[powerhouse3434]

Broscience? Lots of studies that debunk its use, and many others for it.

"glutamine supplementation is crucial post-workout because it causes cell volumization and activates leucine uptake, both of which are needed to maximally turn on protein synthesis. Leucine may be the trigger for protein synthesis, but a cell needs to load up on glutamine before leucine is imported. Supply a large amount of glutamine or glutamine peptides along with your post-workout nutrition (preferably immediately post-workout), and protein synthesis will turn on faster, better exploiting the anabolic window leading to faster recovery and more long-term gains." - Bill Willis, PHD

I'll take cheap glutamine over some $80 pre-workout stimulant with fancy labels... WAY more bang for your buck.

Well first off, anyone who spends 80 dollars on a pre workout is an idiot. Secondly it's been proven countless times that glutamine supplementation is not necessary considering your body makes what it needs in vivo not to mention you get it from diet. Drinking a protein shake post workout? Guess what, you just ingested glutamine. Eating a protein-rich meal? You just ingested glutamine.

Keep buying that glutamine though, supp companies love idiots. They get to buy Dodge Vipers because of people like you.

[corepuncher]

If a pre-drink works for you, then take it. Period. Can't ignore the psychological aspects.

If taking Glutamine "gets you fired up" for your workout (funny I admit), or makes you feel better, than take it. Listening to your favorite music can help push you further in a workout, yet there is nothing you can measure physically. Why can't supplements do the same? Glutamine capsules are dirt cheap. Personally I would not spend a ton of money on some fancy concoction but that's me. If money were no object, maybe I would. If I didn't like it, I would quit.

As for Mr. Cutler...I do not believe he has any interest in being a "glutamine pusher", and I don't think he'd waste his time if there was no utility in it given how strict his diet is. I'm going to invite Jay to tell us all why he takes glutamine.

[lucia316]

If a pre-drink works for you, then take it. Period. Can't ignore the psychological aspects.

Except things like caffeine, beta alanine, Cit Malate, etc actually have physiological aspects. It isn't placebo.

If taking Glutamine "gets you fired up" for your workout (funny I admit), or makes you feel better, than take it. Listening to your favorite music can help push you further in a workout, yet there is nothing you can measure physically. Why can't supplements do the same? Glutamine capsules are dirt cheap. Personally I would not spend a ton of money on some fancy concoction but that's me. If money were no object, maybe I would. If I didn't like it, I would quit.

Okay, but music which you can stream for free on devices or the radio (also free), or you play from an MP3 player or the have secondary uses for what you spend to get the music. These can be used in other ways and are not the same as a supplement that doesn't do anything. Anything felt is placebo and once you learn that it isn't actually doing anything the placebo effect is gone. It isn't the same. Glutamine isn't going to "fire you up" physiologically. Since I assume you are now aware that glutamine doesn't do a damned thing, why the hell would you spend money on it. Spend the money on a supplement that does actually do something.

As for Mr. Cutler...I do not believe he has any interest in being a "glutamine pusher", and I don't think he'd waste his time if there was no utility in it given how strict his diet is. I'm going to invite Jay to tell us all why he takes glutamine.

Correction, you still think glutamine does something...so sad. You do that though with Cutler. And we'll all laugh when he tells you that he doesn't actually take 90% of the crap that his face is on. Cutler didn't get to where he is with supplements. Can't wait to see your red phone to Cutler. LOL.

[powerhouse3434]

If a pre-drink works for you, then take it. Period. Can't ignore the psychological aspects.

If taking Glutamine "gets you fired up" for your workout (funny I admit), or makes you feel better, than take it. Listening to your favorite music can help push you further in a workout, yet there is nothing you can measure physically. Why can't supplements do the same? Glutamine capsules are dirt cheap. Personally I would not spend a ton of money on some fancy concoction but that's me. If money were no object, maybe I would. If I didn't like it, I would quit.

As for Mr. Cutler...I do not believe he has any interest in being a "glutamine pusher", and I don't think he'd waste his time if there was no utility in it given how strict his diet is. I'm going to invite Jay to tell us all why he takes glutamine.

You think Jay Cutler or any other pro BBr recommends legal supplements that they do not receive monetary compensation to do so???? LOLOLOLOL

You're so naive it hurts to read your posts. Not to mention you lack any sort of scientific backing for your posts. Hit the books kid.

[corepuncher]

Geez, do I have to be 100% LITERAL? Of course I don't have a direct line to Cutler...what I meant was I"ll try to post a question to him through his website or something.

Correction, you still think glutamine does something...so sad. You do that though with Cutler. And we'll all laugh when he tells you that he doesn't actually take 90% of the crap that his face is on. Cutler didn't get to where he is with supplements. Can't wait to see your red phone to Cutler. LOL.

Yeah, everyone who takes Glutamine is just "dumb". Of course it does "something", or else there would be no reason to make it and pros would not use it. Lets face it. Now, maybe the effect is very small, and I"m sure it varies amongst individuals.

I am "so sad", that I actually did some research and there is a mountain of evidence refuting your comment that "glutamine does nothing". Here is just ONE study I found:

"5.5 Conclusions
Theoretically, the current protocol put our subjects in an exhaustive state,
mentally and physically. We felt the protocol was essential for examining recovery,
especially after a 24 hour resting period. It is known that the nutritional composition of
the diet can enhance muscle recovery, especially using a 4:1 ratio of carbohydrate to
protein. On the other hand, it was previously unknown whether the addition of glutamine
after intense exercise could improve recovery or time to exhaustion. As a result, we
concluded that supplying a carbohydrate drink with glutamine versus carbohydrate alone
immediately after repeated bouts of intense exercise, was appropriate to determine any
performance enhancing benefit. This conclusion is based on evidence from previous
studies supporting the use of glutamine supplementation for enhancing immune system
function, decreasing inflammation, improved muscle mass, and its wide use and benefit
in several clinical populations (HIV, sepsis, cancer, and trauma patients).

The increase in time to exhaustion following six days of glutamine
supplementation presented in the current study represented a unique finding to our
understanding. Participants in the glutamine group increased time to exhaustion
following 6 days of supplementation. Both participants in the glutamine and placebo
group experienced similar declines in performance immediately, and 24 hours after an
exhaustive bout of exercise.

Furthermore, although there was a significant decrease in peak power following
an exhaustive bout of exercise, it appears those receiving glutamine appeared to recover
quicker after a 24 hour resting period. In addition, those receiving glutamine exhibited an
increase in peak power from baseline measures indicating a possible increase in
50 anaerobic power and leg strength. Obviously, improvements in muscle recovery and
strength can be of benefit to all exercising populations, specifically individuals
participating in repeated bouts of exercise."

You think Jay Cutler or any other pro BBr recommends legal supplements that they do not receive monetary compensation to do so???? LOLOLOLOL
You're so naive it hurts to read your posts. Not to mention you lack any sort of scientific backing for your posts. Hit the books kid.

You are a foolish boy who speaks before he thinks.

I'm not talking about any advertisement with "jay cutler" on it. Obviously those are to sell things. Take a look at recent documentaries following him around his workouts and showing what he eats. In no way is he "pushing" this supplement. Have you ever head of "Jay Cutler's Glutamine"? He mentions that he takes extra glutamine in passing and you see him eating a spoon of it during breakfast preparing for 2013 Mr. O. If he is "pushing" glutamine then he is "pushing" oatmeal and water as well. I'm sure he's making big-ass bucks from Quaker! OH I KNOW, perhaps glutamine is just a "bad habit" for him, you know, something to take the "edge" off while training for Mr. Olympia.

You can find a study to support about any claim. You could be right that glutamine will do next to nothing for me. But to categorically say glutamine is 100% useless is just foolish. If there were NO studies supporting it, then I would agree but this is simply not the case. If I'm wasting 3 dollars a month, then so be it. But it's an easy and cheap supplement to take for the chance that you are doing something beneficial. Not all things can be measured.

I'll let you guys take this thread back over. My advice...loosen your tin-foil hats a bit. Not every supplement is from the devil.

[powerhouse3434]

My IQ has dropped significantly simply by reading the replies in this thread.

This is why people laugh at lifters and call us meatheads, it's people like you who are complete morons that give us a bad rap.

[lucia316]

Geez, do I have to be 100% LITERAL? Of course I don't have a direct line to Cutler...what I meant was I"ll try to post a question to him through his website or something.

Because he cares so much about glutamine supplementation and some random on the internet that he's going to give you amazing, super secret, special science that only applies to him and the rest of the Stonemasons? Let's say he did respond. Just because he uses it doesn't make it do something. Jay Cutler isn't the size he is because of glutamine supplementation.

Yeah, everyone who takes Glutamine is just "dumb". Of course it does "something", or else there would be no reason to make it and pros would not use it. Lets face it. Now, maybe the effect is very small, and I"m sure it varies amongst individuals.

They are dumb if they continue to buy supplemental glutamine when they know it does nothing, yes. If they don't know and only talk to bros or read info posted by bros, or, like you, don't really understand what they are reading, then they are just ignorant of the fact. Ignorance can be fixed. Blind and stubborn stupidity can't be fixed.

I am "so sad", that I actually did some research and there is a mountain of evidence refuting your comment that "glutamine does nothing". Here is just ONE study I found:

"5.5 Conclusions
Theoretically, the current protocol put our subjects in an exhaustive state,
mentally and physically. We felt the protocol was essential for examining recovery,
especially after a 24 hour resting period. It is known that the nutritional composition of
the diet can enhance muscle recovery, especially using a 4:1 ratio of carbohydrate to
protein. On the other hand, it was previously unknown whether the addition of glutamine
after intense exercise could improve recovery or time to exhaustion. As a result, we
concluded that supplying a carbohydrate drink with glutamine versus carbohydrate alone
immediately after repeated bouts of intense exercise, was appropriate to determine any
performance enhancing benefit. This conclusion is based on evidence from previous
studies supporting the use of glutamine supplementation for enhancing immune system
function, decreasing inflammation, improved muscle mass, and its wide use and benefit
in several clinical populations (HIV, sepsis, cancer, and trauma patients).

The increase in time to exhaustion following six days of glutamine
supplementation presented in the current study represented a unique finding to our
understanding. Participants in the glutamine group increased time to exhaustion
following 6 days of supplementation. Both participants in the glutamine and placebo
group experienced similar declines in performance immediately, and 24 hours after an
exhaustive bout of exercise.

Furthermore, although there was a significant decrease in peak power following
an exhaustive bout of exercise, it appears those receiving glutamine appeared to recover
quicker after a 24 hour resting period. In addition, those receiving glutamine exhibited an
increase in peak power from baseline measures indicating a possible increase in
50 anaerobic power and leg strength. Obviously, improvements in muscle recovery and
strength can be of benefit to all exercising populations, specifically individuals
participating in repeated bouts of exercise."

As I said, you don't even understand what you are reading. What were the full parameters of the study? Did all of these subjects eat exactly the same food through the study, or was the only thing given to subjects a carb drink with or without glutamine? How was "recovery" judged? What is this study? You just posted the conclusion. You don't know what you're reading. Regardless, if you are eating a high protein diet and meet your macro, you get plenty of glutamine, you don't need more.

You should start here: http://examine.com/supplements/Glutamine/
Correct your ignorance and stop google searching and copying and pasting things you: A) Don't understand; B) Obviously can't interpret; and C) Probably didn't read in it

You are a foolish boy who speaks before he thinks.

KettleToPotSezWut?

I'm not talking about any advertisement with "jay cutler" on it. Obviously those are to sell things. Take a look at recent documentaries following him around his workouts and showing what he eats. In no way is he "pushing" this supplement. Have you ever head of "Jay Cutler's Glutamine"? He mentions that he takes extra glutamine in passing and you see him eating a spoon of it during breakfast preparing for 2013 Mr. O. If he is "pushing" glutamine then he is "pushing" oatmeal and water as well. I'm sure he's making big-ass bucks from Quaker! OH I KNOW, perhaps glutamine is just a "bad habit" for him, you know, something to take the "edge" off while training for Mr. Olympia.

I'm not interested in Jay Cutler, his workouts or how he eats. These aren't secrets, nor are the reason he's the size he is. If you want to continue to believe that Jay is huge because of his diet, glutamine, et al. Cool, but the AS are a huge contributor to his size as it is with all pros. This is like pretending the WWE is real wrestling. He pushes tons of products, and I'd be willing to be he didn't pay for that glutamine he was taking in your video.

You can find a study to support about any claim. You could be right that glutamine will do next to nothing for me. But to categorically say glutamine is 100% useless is just foolish. If there were NO studies supporting it, then I would agree but this is simply not the case. If I'm wasting 3 dollars a month, then so be it. But it's an easy and cheap supplement to take for the chance that you are doing something beneficial. Not all things can be measured.

I'll let you guys take this thread back over. My advice...loosen your tin-foil hats a bit. Not every supplement is from the devil.

For muscle building glutamine is categorically, 100% useless in healthy individuals. You're right about the fact that studies can support any claim. That's why it's necessary to be able to comprehend what you're reading, question the study and ensure those results aren't caused by something else. Read through the examine link, learn something so you aren't a "foolish boy."

[Fbeckenbauer]

Actually been doing some more research and I'm starting to agree with corepuncher.

Two studies in particular held weight I summarized them below

The first study Glutamine: clinical applications and mechanism of action. T Hallam World J Gastroenterol. 2008 Dec 7;14(45):6960-9

In summary 50 subjects with prior minimal physical activity trained for 2 weeks aerobic exercises in addition to high-intensity interval training with no supplementation, after the first 2 weeks of exercise they were administered glutamine for 2 weeks continuing the same workout routine, all 50 subjects reported faster recovery.


The other study R Hachet, Effect of physical activity on glutamine metabolism. -Integrative Medicine, 2nd ed. Philadelphia, PA: Saunders, An Imprint of Elsevier; 2007

Two subject groups were used, both comprised of 40 individuals, Group A - subjects who were moderate to very physically active, and Group B very low to no physical activity.

Both groups had identical workout routines for 4 weeks, only Group A was administered glutamine, research found that Group A subjects over a course of the 4 weeks recovered 27% faster, especially in the first 2 weeks.

Indisputable proof if you ask me.

[JayLS1-327]

Who spends $80 on a pre-workout ???

[Valhallabound86]

^^

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18806122

However, the suggested reasons for taking glutamine supplements (support for immune system, increased glycogen synthesis, anticatabolic effect) have received little support from well-controlled scientific studies in healthy, well-nourished humans.

Consider it disputed.

I don't have access to those articles, but I would be interested how exactly they determined faster recovery. If it's based on the person itself, it may be already biased. Also, may not take into account varying levels of glutamine from the diet based on protein consumption, etc.