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    you're all idiots. The lesson you should learn is "dont judge a book by its cover" instead you argue about fat vs. roid users
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    Originally Posted by TheBiG_Z View Post
    Actually 184 now. Vascularity has always been there for me. Never been on anything, thanks though.
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    Originally Posted by TheBiG_Z View Post
    Hard work and dedication 100% srs
    of course you gotta go the gym and work regardless but still, no help? skeptical hippo i am
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    I get winded during gym class in school...thats when you know

    Completly agree
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    Originally Posted by manletgenetics View Post
    you're all idiots. The lesson you should learn is "dont judge a book by its cover" instead you argue about fat vs. roid users
    you speak the truth.
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    Originally Posted by Brosnbroccoli View Post
    Strong ignoring the fact that being and training as a professional sprinter strengthens the heart which is the primary reason why cardio is good for you.
    what does this have to do anything? I didn't say sprinters weren't healthy I said that dude is muscular because it's beneficial to his sport. You'll never see a road cyclist built like that, or anyone in any sport cardio heavy.
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    Originally Posted by TheBiG_Z View Post
    Hard work and dedication 100% srs
    strong textbook 'natty' bodybuilder answer.
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    natty bodybuilders who regularly do high-intensity cardio? yes

    pro-bodybuilders? Lol
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    To OP... I bulk and cut etc and don't do cardio when bulking for many reasons but I can still run laps if i want to but i choose not to untill im cutting or maintaining. the real issue is your misconception is a prejudice. Your a hater bro it takes alot of time and effort to build muscle. I'm speaking for myself when I say all this I cycle substances off and on yes... I work heavy highway construction all day yes, bust my ass at work and at the gym and diet accordingly you have to educate yourself, on your body to know your proper diet and how to eat right and make gains bulking and cutting is part of building to maintain. your whole post was ignorant.
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    Originally Posted by JJTransforms02 View Post
    Well as soon as you jump on the not natty train you start dealing with a F ton of problems you have to manage so yes you aren't all that healthy anymore. You're not healthy at 350 pounds of fat either though, they just come with different health related problems and diseases.
    Where do you get this chit? As soon as you jump on eh? Not true at all man. Don't throw gas in the fire, thinking it's water.
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    https://www.google.co.nz/search?tbs=...C&ved=0CCwQ9Q8

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    it is him. those others you think are frauds are actually people who friended him, click on their pages.
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    It depends.

    There are people who lift weights, eat a balanced and nutritious diet, who also do moderate-high levels of cardiovascular activity a few times a week.

    And then we have:

    Those meatheads who don't even touch fruits and vegetables, who walk less than a mile a day and think lifting heavy weight for 30 minutes is considered exercise.

    It's a vast spectrum and there are a lot variables involved, so you can't really just go around saying "Bodybuilders are not healthy". The definition of a Bodybuilder is too ambiguous to accuse.
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    zyzz wasn't even that big? 6'2'' 205 is like 5'10 185
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    zyzz wasn't even that big? 6'2'' 205 is like 5'10 185
    strong unaware

    dude was massive irl. especially towards the end of his life cycle. he also didnt know about his heart condition. do you seriously think he would've abused AAS if he knew? strong morons ITT.
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    Thanks for the neg Wolf. That is me in avi, check out my IG. Same as username.
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    Originally Posted by AskaGuyAnything View Post
    strong unaware

    dude was massive irl. especially towards the end of his life cycle. he also didnt know about his heart condition. do you seriously think he would've abused AAS if he knew? strong morons ITT.
    Yes bc he was fckin stupid.

    Brb on aas but I'll go out drinking and doing coke all the time anyway
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    I don't think it is a misconception, they may not be "healthy" but they are healthier than the average pot-smoking, binge drinking American.
    and I don't believe how long someone can or can't run is a sign of health. I was 260 last year and went on constant long runs (5 miles etc.) but I was no where healthy. I ate **** all the time, drank all the time etc.

    I believe a sign of good health is that your blood levels are fine, you're able to execute everyday functions with ease, and don't have any diseases, sickness, also a good diet goes long way
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    True.

    Thanks to IF and IIFYM im the leanest/best looking ive ever been, but my heart and overall health is probably the worst its ever been. My first two meals when my fast is broken is usually the most crap, calorie infested food i can get my hands on. Also with all the supplements i take, starting with 20,000iu daily of Vitamin D, my arteries probably look like chicken bones.
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    Originally Posted by RyGla View Post
    I don't think it is a misconception, they may not be "healthy" but they are healthier than the average pot-smoking, binge drinking American.
    and I don't believe how long someone can or can't run is a sign of health. I was 260 last year and went on constant long runs (5 miles etc.) but I was no where healthy. I ate **** all the time, drank all the time etc.

    I believe a sign of good health is that your blood levels are fine, you're able to execute everyday functions with ease, and don't have any diseases, sickness, also a good diet goes long way
    the average American isn't a binge drinker or pot smoker, and how is cell tech healthier than pot anyways?
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    you get cardio through your lifting. if you don't you aren't lifting hard enough and you don't squat and deadlift frequently enough
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    there are 10 points in fitness

    1. Cardiovascular/respiratory endurance – the ability of body systems to gather, process, and deliver oxygen
    2. Stamina – the ability of body systems to process, deliver, store, and utilize energy.
    3. Strength – the ability of a muscular unit, or combination of muscular units to apply force.
    4. Flexibility – the ability to maximize the range of motion at a given joint.
    5. Power – the ability of a muscular unit, or combination of muscular units, to apply maximum force in minimum time.
    6. Speed – the ability to minimize the time cycle of a repeated movement.
    7. Coordination – the ability to combine several distinct movement patterns into a singular distinct movements.
    8. Agility – the ability to minimize transition time from one movement pattern to another.
    9. Balance – the ability to control the placement of the body’s center of gravity in relation to its support base.
    10. Accuracy – the ability to control movement in a given direction or at a given intensity.

    just cuz ur low in endurance doesnt mean ur unhealthy
    strength is important too
    some long distance marathon runners dont have this
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    "Healthy" is a retarded term
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    Originally Posted by gunabodybuild View Post
    as i expected this thread is full of skinny people trying to make themselves feel better pretending they dont want to get big.
    this
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    true BUT-

    Are bodybuilders healthy?
    Nope.

    Is every aesthetic guy with above avg lean muscle mass and low body fat unhealthy?
    Definitely not!!
    I had a classmate in 12th who had been practising karate since KG, now he is a black belt in it.
    He is most awesome and aweinspiring person i have ever met: low bodyfat, extremely strong, extremely fast, great stamina and he looks like he lifts hard and heavy even in shirts!!

    He inspired me to start lifting although he doesnt lift atall but still does karate classes.

    What he achieved, he did it in 10+years and he looks like it too! And most of all: he is very very healthy too.

    Immense respect for him and all others like him. Martial artist usually arent big at all but hes one of the exceptions.
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    Originally Posted by jakobi78 View Post
    doesn't matter if he can run a long time without getting winded...putting too much mass on a body is not healthy, period....too much mass putting huge strain on your heart, increasing the work it has to do.
    listen to this dumb ass fuk
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    It would be pretty embarrassing to be jacked out of your mind, but struggle to run 1/2 a mile.
    I ain't quite jacked out of my mind, but I know there is no way in hell I could RUN a half mile, lol maybe a nice steady jog....would leave me out of breath lmao
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    Can anyone enlighten me on what zyzz's hearty condition was actually called?
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    natural weight training is healthy

    being 300 lbs on steroids, stims, clen, thyroid hormones etc, not so much
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    Originally Posted by privateparts View Post
    the average American isn't a binge drinker or pot smoker, and how is cell tech healthier than pot anyways?
    I meant the average pot-smoking, binge drinking American. (prob around 50% of college students)
    and not every bodybuilder is loaded with dat der
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