How muh should basketball players bench and squat?

[KingMisc]

I'm 25 and 5'8 and can bench 100 lbs x 5 and squat 225x5.

[Jhawk Fitness]

I'm 25 and 5'8 and can bench 100 lbs x 5 and squat 225x5.

As much as it takes to be effective on the court.

[DCSpartan]

Most NBA players are surprisingly strong, even if they dont max out their benchpress and squat every week.

[DansTheMan]

Don't worry about how much is "enough." I would say, keep trying to get stronger forever while still practicing your bball skills

[CandyForce]

its hard for them to bench due to their long arms

[ByronKelly]

I'm 25 and 5'8 and can bench 100 lbs x 5 and squat 225x5.

Im no pro, but I play competativley and my bench and squat max are 250 and 310lbs. Not that these numbers are the only thing to consider.
I will add, however, that I added considerable strength (and subsequently power) over the summer and have nopticed a hugh difference in my game, mostly in my shooting, jumping and agility/speed.

[DK91]

Just throwing this out there-Kevin Durant was only benching like 150 lbs. his rookie year, probably not much more now, and he's the second best player in the world.

[KGD54]

Really doesn't matter, Durant couldn't bench a thing. I know a semi-pro player that is 6'7 and used to bench 225 3X10 easy probably weighted 220ish. Have another friend that is a D3 all american and he's around 6'4 225 benches around 275. There really is no standard.

[thundervega]

Don't worry about how much is "enough." I would say, keep trying to get stronger forever while still practicing your bball skills

Basketball skills primary.. workout secondary... girls third hahaha

[Chalky13]

How much a basketball player should squat and bench is like for everybody else. It depends on the player's size, age, how long he's been training, etc. If you want to slam dunk a basketball and average height, I hear that you have to be able to squat 1.5 to 2 times your weight, and have 10% fat, however.

[MrVolquez]

How much a basketball player should squat and bench is like for everybody else. It depends on the player's size, age, how long he's been training, etc. If you want to slam dunk a basketball and average height, I hear that you have to be able to squat 1.5 to 2 times your weight, and have 10% fat, however.

This, but since OP is a guard and not a forward, he needs to focus on light weight reps, plyometrics, and developing agility and explosiveness. Not about max stregnth

[NJLife]

This, but since OP is a guard and not a forward, he needs to focus on light weight reps, plyometrics, and developing agility and explosiveness. Not about max stregnth

where do you think this explosiveness will come from?


taken from high-faster-sports.com


The Importance of Strength For Enhanced Explosiveness

Want to jump higher, run faster, and increase your explosiveness for sports? If so you must be STRONG!

There has been a vast improvement in the overall speed, size, and power displayed in all sports over the last 10 years. Athletes are by and large bigger, stronger, and faster then their predecessors of yesteryear. For example, the average NBA power forward today is 20-30 pounds heavier than the same forward of 10 years ago along with being faster, stronger, and more explosive. The average NFL running back is also 20-30 pounds heavier and much faster then running backs 10 years ago. Strength training has made the single, most positive contribution to this type of improvement.

It has been proven that athletic performance depends either directly or indirectly on qualities of muscular strength. The primary function of the 600+ muscles in the body is to contract in order to cause movement in body parts. Only muscle can cause movement. The stronger your muscles and the more forceful the contractions are in relationship to your own bodyweight, the faster you will run, the higher you will jump, the further you will throw, and the harder you will hit. It's that simple! Not to mention, having a basis of muscular strength is important to avoid injury.


Maximum strength is the backbone upon which all other strength qualities lie. You'll hear me talk a lot about being fast and the importance of speed, power, reactive ability etc. All of these qualities of strength are very important, but truthfully, unless you have enough raw horsepower in your engine you won't be going anywhere or doing anything in a hurry! In this case you can think of horsepower and maximum strength as being synonymous. While only powerlifters need to maximize and demonstrate maximum strength in competition, all athletes need to develop maximum strength as a foundation for other such as explosive strength, reactive strength, strength endurance, agility, and others. For this reason, absolute muscular strength must first be brought to optimal levels and simultaneously blended into strength that you can use for your sport, or "functional" strength. Maximum strength can be displayed through 2 types of muscular actions:

1) Concentric Strength: the ability to overcome a resistance through muscular contraction, i.e., the muscle shortens as it develops tension. Lifting a weight is an example of concentric strength. 2) Eccentric Strength: displayed when a muscle lengthens as it yields to a resistance. Eccentric strength is normally 30-50% greater than concentric strength, meaning that you can lower significantly more weight in good control than you can actually lift.

Despite the current preoccupation with plyometrics, platform shoes, gimmicks, weighted vests etc, improving basic absolute strength has long been the most efficient way to improve speed, agility, jumping ability, and explosiveness in sports. In fact, Romanian strength & periodization specialist Tudor Bompa suggests that "No visible increments of power or speed-strength (force x velocity) are possible without clear gains in maximal strength." Why is this? Well, if you increase your strength, you also increase the amount of force you can generate. All things being equal the more force you can apply in a movement (each foot contact in a sprint, amount of force you apply when you jump, throw, etc); the faster you'll move, the higher you'll jump, the further you'll throw etc.

To appreciate the importance of muscular strength on the ability to display power and explosive strength, imagine a rocket weighing 1000 pounds, with an engine capable of 1200 pounds of thrust. This rocket has only 200 pounds of reserve force to propel itself. The same rocket, when equipped with an engine rated at 3000 pounds of thrust, will have 2000 pounds of reserve thrust that can be used for propulsion.

Now back to the gym: a 200 pound man capable of squatting 250 pounds for a single rep will have a mere 50 pounds of reserve strength available to propel his body upward during a vertical jump. Contrast this with a 200-pound elite-class powerlifter capable of squatting 600 pounds. Now we've got 400 pounds of strength reserve available, and all things being equal, he will have a vastly superior vertical jump compared to the novice squatter.

Another example is that of the medium distance runner. In order to run 800 meters in 1:45, it is necessary to be able to run a 10.6-10.7 second time in the 100 meters. One needs to possess great strength potential to do this and generally have the ability to execute 3 consecutive standing long jumps covering a total distance of at least 9 meters, for which middle-distance runners usually do not have the strength. Elimination of this weakness is possible only through specialized strength training, which shows a stronger influence on the muscles than distance training, thereby intensifying or "speeding up" their endurance work. As a result, the power and capacity to run a fast 800 meters is improved.

But is there such thing as having too much strength? Well it depends on the person but generally, Yes there is!! Before getting into that lets first examine the type of strength and force required for optimum sports performance.

The maximum amount of force you produce during any given sports movement is called F-max. I think it's fairly obvious that in most sports endeavors requiring explosiveness, quickness, or speed, you'd like your force output to be as high as possible. In any sports movement, the time you have to apply maximum force is so short that it's not possible to get all of your muscles turned on and display maximum strength and force. Not even close! Only powerlifting, where a movement may take many seconds or longer to complete, tests one's maximum strength. NO other sport does because of the time constraint. You have only a fraction of a second usually to exert any given amount of force in any given sports movement. You never quite equal your maximum strength levels in sports movements because the movements are over with so quickly.

So, although strength is very important, also understand that simply working on your maximum strength for years on end is usually NOT the way to become great! In fact it can and will slow you down if carried to the extreme. The coaches of yesteryear were partially right when they wouldn't allow their players to lift for fear that doing so would foul up their "touch"(skill), make them muscle-bound or slow them down. They were right. The reason is that continually hammering maximum strength -- your 1-RM -- will eventually result in muscle being synthesized and bodyweight being added beyond the point where your strength-to-weight ratio is greatest. Added strength, when carried to this extreme, almost invariably means added weight, slower movement speed, inability to achieve positive acceleration let alone greater explosive strength.

Record holding powerlifter and author Fred Hatfield a.k.a. "Dr. Squat" says that former Soviet scientists worshipped the relationship between an athletes maximum strength and the amount of force that athlete could apply in their sporting movement (F-max) and for good cause. They believed that NOTHING should EVER be done to cause an increase in the ratio between F-max and maximum strength. They believed that the DEFINITION of a great athlete was one whose F-max (force applied during a short sports movement) came close to his/her limit strength (force applied in any movement regardless of time). They believed that, in all the world of sport, SPEED is king.

So, this being the case, we must give consideration to the concept of functional strength, or the amount of strength necessary to maximize the strength you can produce in a quick sporting movement (F-max) without causing an increase in the difference between F-max (the amount of force you can produce in a sporting movement) and maximum strength. To do this it helps to pay attention to relative strength, or strength per unit of bodyweight.

Whereas absolute strength refers to strength irrespective of bodyweight, relative strength is a term used to denote an athlete's strength per unit of bodyweight (his or her "pound for pound strength"). So, if two athletes of different bodyweights can squat 275 pounds, they have equal strength for that lift, but the lighter athlete has greater relative, or pound for pound, strength. Athletes who compete in weight-class events depend heavily on relative strength, as do athletes who must overcome their bodyweight to accomplish a motor task (i.e., long jump, sprinting, etc.). Further, sports which have aesthetic requirements (figure skating, gymnastics, etc.) demand the development of strength without a commensurate gain in bodyweight.

So how do you know if your strength to weight ratio is optimal? Simple. If your strength is going up faster then your bodyweight and your performance is improving as well then you're on the right track. You definitely don't need to be afraid of an increase in bodyweight so long as the strength gained from that bodyweight is functional. If one weighs 150 pounds and squats 200 lbs and increases his bodyweight to 175 lbs and improves his squat to 300 lbs his strength:bodyweight ratio has improved considerably! Oftentimes a 10% increase in body-mass will lead to as much of a 30% increase in strength or more!

So how do you know when you've reached a point when you're becoming too strong? Simple. The thing to note is "eventually", but not "immediately", increasing strength and body-mass could result in negative effects on speed, size, and relative strength. Fortunately, you will know of this long before it happens as you will find that an increase in strength fails to yield an increase in sporting performance (speed, jumping ability, etc.) You will also find that the amount of work required to stimulate additional strength gains will begin to interfere with sport-specific work.

To give you an idea on when that point might come realize most elite sprinters routinely squat with weights 2-3 times their bodyweight!

Since strength training targets the neuro-muscular system, strength can be developed through two very different means, by applying stress either to the muscular or to the neural aspect of the system. The former method is usually accomplished through the application of "bodybuilding" methods (repetitions between 6-12 to exhaustion, using continuous tension techniques), and results in strength gains through an increase in muscle size. The latter method employs higher intensity training (repetitions between 1 and 5 using accelerative technique and full recoveries between sets), and increases in strength are the result of the body's improved ability to recruit more of its existing motor unit pool, or increase in neural efficiency.

For optimal strength gains you'll need varying amounts of both. First, maximize the strength per unit of bodyweight until your relative strength is very high. Then you can look to increase muscle size so you have more muscle to tap into for further strength increases.

[Ditto2323]

You might have higher muscle insertion points which requires you to generate more force to move a weight.