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    Originally Posted by Auburn RSX-S View Post
    The part where he's running with the camera spinning around him before the monster bursts through the column had the slight jankiness of real gameplay.

    I'm not confident that the Deep Down trailer represents playable, animated gameplay, but I have no doubt it's real time in-engine footage either running directly from the PS4 hardware or at the very least PC. If you go back and watch, there's no detailed hair strands/simulation (eyelashes, facial hair, head heair) anywhere in the demo.

    Again, not sure about those animations being actual gameplay. And some aspects could be fake with pre-canned, heavily scripted animations (eg: fire). But it looks both ****ing incredible and a real time engine demonstration. The flaws a lot of guys are seeing are not really negatives, so much as evidence of the reality of real times graphics processing. It's why Ubisoft's bullshot screenshots always have a weird, uncanny look, even though most are using in-game assets. The rendering is always oversampled and touched up, so it's not technically real time anything.

    This, on the other hand, looks bona fide real time.

    Honestly, do these shots really look THAT different than something like modded skyrim?





    Slapping a 2d menu onto the screen does not make it a gameplay footage. Look at the displacement texture on the ground of the first screenshot where the puddle is, look at the high polygon count of the models and the quality of the lighting, im not sure even a high end pc can run that gfx let alone the ps4. You're gullible as fuk brah

    We're not gonna get this gfx for many many years. Srsly the only in game footage in the sony presentation are watch dogs and killzone
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    Originally Posted by Auburn RSX-S View Post
    No the bottom one was an nvidia tech demo that anyone with an 8800 could download and manipulate the lighting, shadows and stuff all in real time rendering.
    okay you are right, but the guy who made the screenshots used a very misleading picture. very very bias towards the pc.

    heres what it actually looks like, and yes its "real-time" rendering

    go to 3:45



    Originally Posted by yogurt23 View Post
    not sure if srs, most of this is software based stuff which will be introduced to the pc before you know it, ps3 has 8gb ram, my pc had 8gb ram like 3 years ago lol. All ps3/360 games ran so much smoother on pc and looked nicer, willing to bet that it is going to be the same situation with the ps4
    wow.. you are strongly misinformed....

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    i have a theory they're just trying to fuk with all the xbox makers.

    and dupe the casual gamers.
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    Someone said it right

    PS4 has great specs now, PS4 will have the same specs 3 years from now.
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    PS2 tech demo. Games never looked like this.

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    Might consider buying this, did own a ps3 but sold it because none of my friends had one.

    If they finally announce an official date for KH3 then i'll be all over it.
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    Even if we agree with the OP that the PS4 destroys current top of the line PC's (this isn't true, but for arguments sake), looking at the above release dates, the PS4 hardware will have to last for the next 6-7 years. Whilst in that time PC's can be constantly upgraded year on year.
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    Originally Posted by Auburn RSX-S View Post
    Deep down gameplay in-engine reveal. IS THIS REAL LIFE?

    I'm a die hard pc gamer but please show me anything on a PC that looks remotely like this.

    Just because the game looks amazing doesn't mean you aren't capable of building a PC that can run it. Every PS4 and Xbox 3 dev kit is a PC with identical specs to the next console, not the console itself. Besides, these games will be coming out at the very earliest, Holiday '13. Many of them are not going to be launch titles. And many of them are being "optimized" so that they look impressive for the PS4 reveal. Remember the Killzone "gameplay" trailer that was revealed alongside the PS3, and the differences in graphics between the MGS 4 trailer and the finished product.

    Fact is, there are graphics cards and CPUs out right now that match the capabilities of the PS4. It may cost you $3000 to build that rig right now, but a year from now, it'll be $2000. A year later, more comparable to the PS3. The consoles will always be "futureproof" for a year or two, only because they are so affordable. But the technology for PC is already there, and with a 5 year minimum life cycle, by year 2, you will be able to build a comparable PC for the same amount of money or less (plus all the other capabilities that a PC has). My PC that runs BF3 on Ultra cost me $500 in main components, minus the additional accessories that I wanted but didn't necessarily need (SSD, Blu-Ray Drive). I use it as a gaming station, a work station, and for general purposes such as browsing the internet. It has a terabyte hard drive, something that they do not have for the Xbox or PS3, which cost me less money than a 120 GB hard drive does for the Xbox. And it plays many games on high settings on a higher resolution that the Xbox cannot match (just look at BF3 on the PC compared to the Xbox). Not to mention, I don't get scaled back games, like those that are designed for 64 players on a PC but can only support 24 on the consoles.

    By the way, I was a console gamer my entire life and only converted to PCs about a year and a half ago.
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    Maybe it's not as cool as I think but I was pretty impressed with the amount of artifacts being shown in Killzone at once. Seemed like the draw distance was insanely long also, and yet the game ran perfectly smooth.

    I'd love to see how Killzone's graphics compare to Crysis 3, cause you need a pretty damn good PC to run that game smoothly at the highest settings.

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    Originally Posted by dryst View Post
    Come at us PC bros

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    Originally Posted by bellis01 View Post
    Come at us PC bros

    GAme will never look like this.

    If I recall the PS3 isnt even maxed out yet. Devs can't put this much time into a game these days to have this amount of detail. Publishers want to rush titles out the door so as a result you don't and will never EVER get this kind of detail in a console game.

    This detail will only come with a pc mod.
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    Originally Posted by bellis01 View Post
    Come at us PC bros

    [img]http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18f9tckd6k1uyjpg/original.jpg[img]
    Strong knowledge of hardware if you think games will actually look like this.

    These shots are rendered in real time on PC, originally done sometime in 2011, with the eye shading finished in 2012:


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    Originally Posted by Auburn RSX-S View Post
    No the bottom one was an nvidia tech demo that anyone with an 8800 could download and manipulate the lighting, shadows and stuff all in real time rendering.
    Originally Posted by ShoryuBrah View Post
    Strong knowledge of hardware if you think games will actually look like this.

    These shots are rendered in real time on PC, originally done sometime in 2011, with the eye shading finished in 2012:

    guess what?

    these faces arent animated unlike the ps4 version

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    Originally Posted by roms15 View Post
    guess what?

    these faces arent animated unlike the ps4 version
    Guess what? That has more to do with the engine it's running on than the platform. Saying that it would be impossible to animate the 3D face is strong retard logic.



    Is that better phaggot?

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    Originally Posted by Auburn RSX-S View Post
    Deep down gameplay in-engine reveal. IS THIS REAL LIFE?

    I'm a die hard pc gamer but please show me anything on a PC that looks remotely like this.

    lol you dumb f.uckin tard can you not tell the difference between gameplay and fake trailer with weapon icons over layed on top? lol if you actually think the game will look like that.

    pre rendered 'gameplay' still fooling people in 2013. does anyone not remember the fake killzone 2 e3 video they tried to pass off as gameplay

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    How are all the dilerious console gamers going?

    Anyways.

    PS4 GFX = 1,84 TFLOPS, PC's Nvidia GTX 690 = 5,62 TFLOPS.

    While the video card is "next-gen" it is also AMD, AKA well behind a few cards already.

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    Originally Posted by ShoryuBrah View Post


    PS2 tech demo. Games never looked like this.
    Final Fantasy X did.

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    Originally Posted by MA5Bergey View Post
    Just because the game looks amazing doesn't mean you aren't capable of building a PC that can run it. Every PS4 and Xbox 3 dev kit is a PC with identical specs to the next console, not the console itself. Besides, these games will be coming out at the very earliest, Holiday '13. Many of them are not going to be launch titles. And many of them are being "optimized" so that they look impressive for the PS4 reveal. Remember the Killzone "gameplay" trailer that was revealed alongside the PS3, and the differences in graphics between the MGS 4 trailer and the finished product.

    Fact is, there are graphics cards and CPUs out right now that match the capabilities of the PS4. It may cost you $3000 to build that rig right now, but a year from now, it'll be $2000. A year later, more comparable to the PS3. The consoles will always be "futureproof" for a year or two, only because they are so affordable. But the technology for PC is already there, and with a 5 year minimum life cycle, by year 2, you will be able to build a comparable PC for the same amount of money or less (plus all the other capabilities that a PC has). My PC that runs BF3 on Ultra cost me $500 in main components, minus the additional accessories that I wanted but didn't necessarily need (SSD, Blu-Ray Drive). I use it as a gaming station, a work station, and for general purposes such as browsing the internet. It has a terabyte hard drive, something that they do not have for the Xbox or PS3, which cost me less money than a 120 GB hard drive does for the Xbox. And it plays many games on high settings on a higher resolution that the Xbox cannot match (just look at BF3 on the PC compared to the Xbox). Not to mention, I don't get scaled back games, like those that are designed for 64 players on a PC but can only support 24 on the consoles.

    By the way, I was a console gamer my entire life and only converted to PCs about a year and a half ago.

    iv been a PC gamer ALL my life. What you fail to realize is that it doesn't matter what hardware you can build, pcs will never take full advantage of that hardware. The only hardware developers really take full advantage off is consoles because its a "closed" spec development source. Thats the problem with pc gaming.....that game could have been made on PC a long time ago but it was never made because console dictate how far developers are willing to push their games at this point. You can claim all you want how you can build a beast pc and have better looking graphics but you won't have any of those games on pc until they can be made available on consoles. Thats been the trend the last generation and its going to continue to be this way because thats what makes developers money. They are not going to make an insane looking game for 1% of the population that can run it and isolate their fan base. Right now PS4 games look as good if not better than whats available for pc on old ass hardware. With the release of PS4 developers can finally start pushing pc games further because they can still create decent ports for ps4 which they couldn't create for ps3 anymore thus weren't pushing pc games.

    My point: PC high end hardware dont mean **** now because most of the pc games are console ports, at the games that are made for PC only won't be taking advantage of your GTX690 because most of the population still has their gtx 660 in their rigs. Its all about business and making money. Sorry brah.
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    Originally Posted by wouldreadagain View Post
    How are all the dilerious console gamers going?

    Anyways.

    PS4 GFX = 1,84 TFLOPS, PC's Nvidia GTX 690 = 5,62 TFLOPS.

    While the video card is "next-gen" it is also AMD, AKA well behind a few cards already.

    iv been a PC gamer ALL my life. What you fail to realize is that it doesn't matter what hardware you can build, pcs will never take full advantage of that hardware. The only hardware developers really take full advantage off is consoles because its a "closed" spec development source. Thats the problem with pc gaming.....that game could have been made on PC a long time ago but it was never made because console dictate how far developers are willing to push their games at this point. You can claim all you want how you can build a beast pc and have better looking graphics but you won't have any of those games on pc until they can be made available on consoles. Thats been the trend the last generation and its going to continue to be this way because thats what makes developers money. They are not going to make an insane looking game for 1% of the population that can run it and isolate their fan base. Right now PS4 games look as good if not better than whats available for pc on old ass hardware. With the release of PS4 developers can finally start pushing pc games further because they can still create decent ports for ps4 which they couldn't create for ps3 anymore thus weren't pushing pc games.

    My point: PC high end hardware dont mean **** now because most of the pc games are console ports, at the games that are made for PC only won't be taking advantage of your GTX690 because most of the population still has their gtx 660 in their rigs. Its all about business and making money. Sorry brah.
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    Originally Posted by AXnyc View Post
    iv been a PC gamer ALL my life. What you fail to realize is that it doesn't matter what hardware you can build, pcs will never take full advantage of that hardware. The only hardware developers really take full advantage off is consoles because its a "closed" spec development source. Thats the problem with pc gaming.....that game could have been made on PC a long time ago but it was never made because console dictate how far developers are willing to push their games at this point. You can claim all you want how you can build a beast pc and have better looking graphics but you won't have any of those games on pc until they can be made available on consoles. Thats been the trend the last generation and its going to continue to be this way because thats what makes developers money. They are not going to make an insane looking game for 1% of the population that can run it and isolate their fan base. Right now PS4 games look as good if not better than whats available for pc on old ass hardware. With the release of PS4 developers can finally start pushing pc games further because they can still create decent ports for ps4 which they couldn't create for ps3 anymore thus weren't pushing pc games.

    My point: PC high end hardware dont mean **** now because most of the pc games are console ports, at the games that are made for PC only won't be taking advantage of your GTX690 because most of the population still has their gtx 660 in their rigs. Its all about business and making money. Sorry brah.
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    Originally Posted by Azn00Superman View Post
    Oh yeah? you gotta mod son.
    Those Skyrim ones yours? Would love to see the mod list on that thing, constantly looking to push my Skyrim.
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    Originally Posted by EatingPancakes View Post
    Those Skyrim ones yours? Would love to see the mod list on that thing, constantly looking to push my Skyrim.
    no brah, my gtx 470 would choke on that chit. It's from some brah on the skyrim thread:
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    Originally Posted by Azn00Superman View Post
    Oh yeah?















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    I got skyrim and most of the mods with enbs (can post steam for proof), you can only get that kind of detail with mods and i still doesn't think its that far ahead of demos that were shown on ps4 if not worse. I do believe that modded skyrim looks pretty much as good as there is to offer on PC. BF3 IMO is still king of FPS graphics (maybe just my preference). Lettuce be real tea though, if Bethesda was to make Skyrim again from ground up for PS4 without PS3 ever being considered, it would look even better on PS4 and PC unmodded than what current skyrim looks like modded on pc right now.


    Also i lol at people posting GTA Icenhancer mod. IT looks ok and car models that you download are really high poly but half the world still looks like **** and low poly just with better lighting.
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    Originally Posted by AXnyc View Post
    I got skyrim and most of the mods with enbs (can post steam for proof), you can only get that kind of detail with mods and i still doesn't think its that far ahead of demos that were shown on ps4 if not worse . Lettuce be real.
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    Novel about a console actual besting a PC

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