What do you guys think is the highest attainable physique?

[alexistheboss]

Understand me, I don't care if the people you post are natural or not.
I want to know what YOU believe to be the MAXIMUM achievable physique in a persons lifetime, after a good 15years proper training, proper diet, proper supplements and lifestyle.

This is what I believe to be the max:

[agrier9]

You really wont know unless you do it. I feel like anyone could be using.

[MrMcgaw]

What are those two muscles that kinda form a U around abs called?

[alexistheboss]

You really wont know unless you do it. I feel like anyone could be using.

Yea thats what is problematic, as soon as you see a guy with a good physique, they all say "STEROIDS"...
I am sick of it, I am really curious to know what the max really really is.
I am gonna try and reach it ofc.
But I am new. Gonna take at least 10-15years more

[agrier9]

Yea thats what is problematic, as soon as you see a guy with a good physique, they all say "STEROIDS"...
I am sick of it, I am really curious to know what the max really really is.
I am gonna try and reach it ofc.
But I am new. Gonna take at least 10-15years more

Best physique in the natural federations is arguably Jim Cordova but is he natural well I don't know.

[tdlfctnn123]

Yea thats what is problematic, as soon as you see a guy with a good physique, they all say "STEROIDS"...
I am sick of it, I am really curious to know what the max really really is.
I am gonna try and reach it ofc.
But I am new. Gonna take at least 10-15years more

Most ppl will end up using dat der celltech, anything is possible it really depends how far you wanna go with the celltech, arnie or zyzz, mass or aesthetics

[alexistheboss]

Most ppl will end up using dat der celltech, anything is possible it really depends how far you wanna go with the celltech, arnie or zyzz, mass or aesthetics

I meant with no use of celltech.

[SamSix]

lol. the guy you posted isnt natty dude. no amount of training and nutrition can make you look like that without drugs sorry to break it to you

[alexistheboss]

lol. the guy you posted isnt natty dude. no amount of training and nutrition can make you look like that without drugs sorry to break it to you

But how do you know? You are 18... This guys been training for 14years and competes in natural bodybuilding.
I am not saying for 100% sure he is, but what makes you so certain that he is not?
Everyone always acts so certain that others are using celltech, but how do you know?!

[kosich]

You really wont know unless you do it. I feel like anyone could be using.

This.

There are people on this site who've been lifting for 10+ years, they have killer physiques and they claim natty, BUT the majority of people accuses them on using dat dere.. So yeah, best way to know it is to do it yourself..

Edit: The guy in the OP is 5'11 189 lbs shredded & he claims natty, I really hope he is natural.. It's always good to have someone to look up to.

[alexistheboss]

This.

There are people on this site who've been lifting for 10+ years, they have killer physiques and they claim natty, BUT the majority of people accuses them on using dat dere.. So yeah, best way to know it is to do it yourself..

Edit: The guy in the OP is 5'11 189 lbs shredded & he claims natty, I really hope he is natural.. It's always good to have someone to look up to.

After watching allot of his interviews, I really do think he is natty. inbe4haters.
I seriously hope that I can reach a good level natty.
*Fingers crossed for alpha genetics*

[Arabianmuscles]

in 15 years you can build a nice physique. Nothing crazy obviously, but an aesthetic body is doable for sure. I personally don't understand the point of waiting that long though, I'd rather have my goal physique in my college years rather than in my 30's +.

@ SamSix - Do you plan on joining the dark side?

[alexistheboss]

in 15 years you can build a nice physique. Nothing crazy obviously, but an aesthetic body is doable for sure. I personally don't understand the point of waiting that long though, I'd rather have my goal physique in my college years rather than in my 30's +.

@ SamSix - Do you plan on joining the dark side?

Thats exactly what im thinking.
I want to stay natty, but if I cannot attain something at least close to the body I show above within my lifetime.. I might have to hop on a bike when im inm my 20s

[RM5]

in 15 years you can build a nice physique. Nothing crazy obviously, but an aesthetic body is doable for sure. I personally don't understand the point of waiting that long though, I'd rather have my goal physique in my college years rather than in my 30's +.

@ SamSix - Do you plan on joining the dark side?

You mean 20's?

You will still look good before getting there

[ruckin]

What are those two muscles that kinda form a U around abs called?

obliques

[Mohammed786]

The person who chooses that there cell tech will never admit to it for various reasons... Endorsements, the label of being a cheat, not having respect etc...

[Arabianmuscles]

Thats exactly what im thinking.
I want to stay natty, but if I cannot attain something at least close to the body I show above within my lifetime.. I might have to hop on a bike when im inm my 20s

I mean it's hard to point out if someone is natty or not if they've been training for 10 years +.

Idk man, celltech sounds worth it to me. Get to your goal physique faster, raising the bar on what's achievable, being strong as fuk, easier to stay lean year round/not looking fat on bulks, sponsorships etc. All these avenues open up big time from celltech alone, which is really tempting.


That's just how I see it honestly. I mean a physique is a physique natty or not, so I see no point in staying natty unless you wanna compete in tested federations or have health problems already/really conscious of health.

[RM5]

I mean it's hard to point out if someone is natty or not if they've been training for 10 years +.

Idk man, celltech sounds worth it to me. Get to your goal physique faster, raising the bar on what's achievable, being strong as fuk, easier to stay lean year round etc.


That's just how I see it honestly. I mean a physique is a physique natty or not, so I see no point in staying natty unless you wanna compete in tested federations or have health problems already.

Health maybe?

[Arabianmuscles]

Health maybe?

I Thought I included that, but I didn't. I updated my post though.

[RM5]

Understand me, I don't care if the people you post are natural or not.
I want to know what YOU believe to be the MAXIMUM achievable physique in a persons lifetime, after a good 15years proper training, proper diet, proper supplements and lifestyle.

This is what I believe to be the max:

I've seen a pt who I know for a fact is natural and he looks about the same size as this guy on top.

[Mohammed786]

Achievable natty................






























Serious....















Maybe not ;-)

Lets just say it is and pretend it is....srs

[agrier9]

Achievable natty................






























Serious....















Maybe not ;-)

Lets just say it is and pretend it is....srs

You're a long way off to being close to his level of development bro.

[ShortBrah3030]

You can get a good physique within 8 months of consistent diet and training...

[rkalsow]

Best physique in the natural federations is arguably Jim Cordova but is he natural well I don't know.

He claims to be natural as well as the competitions he enters usually require it. I think he is. I'm with you here.

[agrier9]

He claims to be natural as well as the competitions he enters usually require it. I think he is. I'm with you here.

He's hella smart when it comes to activating muscle groups and training effectively; I get a lot of tips on form from him. However, I simply don't know if he's natural or not because I'm not him. I don't have the experience of competing in the WNBF and don't know if it's easy to beat the poly and what kind of drug tests they do. Only Jim Cordova knows if he's natty.

[BruteMutant]

Some may say, the sky is the limit.

I say, I have No Limits.



People who pay attention to detail, may be aware of who I am now.

[dominicevans]

He's hella smart when it comes to activating muscle groups and training effectively; I get a lot of tips on form from him. However, I simply don't know if he's natural or not because I'm not him. I don't have the experience of competing in the WNBF and don't know if it's easy to beat the poly and what kind of drug tests they do. Only Jim Cordova knows if he's natty.

link?

[agrier9]

link?

Just google him.

[amenccm]

Best physique in the natural federations is arguably Jim Cordova but is he natural well I don't know.

Yea, i'd say that Jim Cordova is the pinnacle of natural physiques. His arms look like an IFBB's, and he makes people like Layne Norton or Jon Harris look small.

As for the guy in OP, he looks like he's on roids, but if he's competing naturally he probably is, depending on the league. If a guy's competing in a world-renown natural organisation, i'm pretty sure that they'd be using the most accurate tests to see who's really natural. And if a guy's competing in their leagues, best to just take the organisation's word for it. Unless the entire things corrupted/ bribed.

And also, what motive would they have? Natural bodybuilding is considerably less rewarding/ glorified than IFBB stuff.

http://forum.bodybuildingpro.com/att...1&d=1279260026

[LiftingSteve93]

People with above average physiques are often accused of not being natty. Most of the time, this is true. OP, when lifting around enough people and seeing people you know aren't natty, it becomes easier to spot those that are on. That being said, you can do a lot better than most people would have you believe without going on a cycle. A lot of people want to hop on as soon as their linear progression stops. There are so many different methods to progress without the use of anything.