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[BradKemp]

- look at clock
- omfg it's 5:47
- alarm normally goes off at 4:45 for work at 6 but I forgot to set it last night
- jump out of bed like an idiot and start getting ready 100 mph
- realize I don't even work today
- cant fall back asleep
- post on bb.com

[Nulllogik]

- look at clock
- omfg it's 5:47
- alarm normally goes off at 4:45 for work at 6 but I forgot to set it last night
- jump out of bed like an idiot and start getting ready 100 mph
- realize I don't even work today
- cant fall back asleep
- post on bb.com

Well that sucks...

I ate horribly, drank too much, and didnt sleep enough over the weekend.

Did cardio with a slight hangover both mornings though.

[camdensdaddy]

have a legitimate question

going to test my tolerance to yohimbine and caffeine this last week of bulking. Lyle McDonald says to take l-tyrosine when you are doing the stubborn fat protocol along with those two supps. Well what does tyrosine exactly do? I searched and couldnt find anything.

I don't know for sure, but I think taking yohimbine and caffeine increases stress and tyrosine is supposed to counteract some of that stress. Total guess on my part though.

[cunfewzed]

I don't know for sure, but I think taking yohimbine and caffeine increases stress and tyrosine is supposed to counteract some of that stress. Total guess on my part though.

Now researching as I take Y and caffeine right now. I'm not seeing any ill-effect that I can point out. I don't feel any more stressed than normal.

[Nulllogik]

have a legitimate question

going to test my tolerance to yohimbine and caffeine this last week of bulking. Lyle McDonald says to take l-tyrosine when you are doing the stubborn fat protocol along with those two supps. Well what does tyrosine exactly do? I searched and couldnt find anything.

I'd like to know this as well. I'll look into it later if nothing is found

[camdensdaddy]

Now researching as I take Y and caffeine right now. I'm not seeing any ill-effect that I can point out. I don't feel any more stressed than normal.

That doesn't really surprise me. My guess is that even if it's true, the effect size is very small.

[Nulllogik]

Looks like I'm going to do a bulk starting this weekend.

Not going to go all dreamer on it this time.

Gym just got a power rack and I want to get my squat to 405 for more than 2...

Super excited.

[cunfewzed]

Dat feel when you're so so close to being finished with your cut and you just want to dreamer bulk. I has dose feelz

[cnh57811]

Dat feel when you're so so close to being finished with your cut and you just want to dreamer bulk. I has dose feelz

Y u post my thoughts?

Edit: all refeed weight is gone and then some.

[Ammex]

Dat feel when you're so so close to being finished with your cut and you just want to dreamer bulk. I has dose feelz

These feels, except so scared to dreamer bulk (again) even though I made awesome gains. My end of cut is marked by a trip to Vegas.... Nothing like starting a lean bulk off right.... And I'm definitely going to the heart attack cafe.

[cnh57811]

And I'm definitely going to the heart attack cafe.

Inb4 dead.

[Ammex]

Inb4 dead.

Chits so good.

Also, dat feel when you lose chest definition because of other muscles protruding . I should just be a bench brah.

[cunfewzed]

Inb4 dead.

the way of the Vox

[HG88]

well, I have nothing of substance to post so I leave you with this.

[cnh57811]

Feels like im dropping weight faster .. with .. refeeds. Dats a good feel.

[Serpentarius]

I don't know for sure, but I think taking yohimbine and caffeine increases stress and tyrosine is supposed to counteract some of that stress. Total guess on my part though.

Now researching as I take Y and caffeine right now. I'm not seeing any ill-effect that I can point out. I don't feel any more stressed than normal.

I'd like to know this as well. I'll look into it later if nothing is found

thanks. I found one little note that it enhances the effects of what you are taking, some have taken it with EC stack to increase the effect that already work together by taking ephedrine and caffeine together.
Also wonder if 35 calories is still ok to have to not break the fast. Not that i ever cared about fasting but its necessary for yohimbine to do its thing.

[krete77]

cliffs on last 3-4 days?

[cunfewzed]

thanks. I found one little note that it enhances the effects of what you are taking, some have taken it with EC stack to increase the effect that already work together by taking ephedrine and caffeine together.
Also wonder if 35 calories is still ok to have to not break the fast. Not that i ever cared about fasting but its necessary for yohimbine to do its thing.

You'll be good with 35 kcals. Everything I've read says 50, and I still think that's bro-sciency. I think the point is, don't go eat a bunch of pasta and expect Y to work 2 hours later. I train in the morning so nothing enters my body beforehand (minus Hemavol). I think that's your best bet for Y. It's going to be tough to train in the middle of the day or evening b/c you're going to want a decent amount of time in between your last meal and your exercise for the Y to work.


EDIT: On a side note, the Y is working. Not placebo. I've been taking pictures. Since I started taking Y, I've seen the same weight loss as normal (~.5 to 1 lb per week) but the changes in the mirror are coming much faster.

[missladyj]

Feels like im dropping weight faster .. with .. refeeds. Dats a good feel.

Thats good to hear...conventional wisdom makes me hesitant to but lyle insists they're more effective. How many days until your weight went down after refeed spike?

[cunfewzed]

Thats good to hear...conventional wisdom makes me hesitant to but lyle insists they're more effective. How many days until your weight went down after refeed spike?

I know you're talking to CNH, but we did refeeds on the same day. My refeed weight is gone too. So it only took 1 day for me. He's in the same boat.

[Nulllogik]

thanks. I found one little note that it enhances the effects of what you are taking, some have taken it with EC stack to increase the effect that already work together by taking ephedrine and caffeine together.
Also wonder if 35 calories is still ok to have to not break the fast. Not that i ever cared about fasting but its necessary for yohimbine to do its thing.

Seems to help keep hunger in check: http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/qa-3.html

[cnh57811]

Thats good to hear...conventional wisdom makes me hesitant to but lyle insists they're more effective. How many days until your weight went down after refeed spike?

Last week i was back under my prerefeed weight in 3 days. This week it only took 2 days. I feel a bit sluggish on the day of so ill try to keep them on rest days or i guess i could just workout early.

[missladyj]

I know you're talking to CNH, but we did refeeds on the same day. My refeed weight is gone too. So it only took 1 day for me. He's in the same boat.

Last week i was back under my prerefeed weight in 3 days. This week it only took 2 days. I feel a bit sluggish on the day of so ill try to keep them on rest days or i guess i could just workout early.

That's good to hear guys, it's kind of dumb how nervous I am about doing a refeed but I now I feel my mind is a little more at ease lol.

[missladyj]

PSMF Day One: 172.2 lbs

PSMF Day Two: 168.8 lbs

PSMF Day Three: 167.4 lbs

PSMF Day Four: 165.4 lbs >>Scheduled cheat meal<<

PSMF Day Five: 166 lbs

[Ammex]

PSMF Day One: 172.2 lbs

PSMF Day Two: 168.8 lbs

PSMF Day Three: 167.4 lbs

PSMF Day Four: 165.4 lbs >>Scheduled cheat meal<<

PSMF Day Five: 166 lbs

Why did you cheat on day 4?

[missladyj]

Why did you cheat on day 4?

Category 2s (not obese but not lean individuals) are supposed to have one cheat meal a week, and one five hour refeed a week...Lyle suggested to help psychologically and to aid hormonal levels. Scheduled the cheat meal for 4th day of week, then the refeed on 7th day of week.

Even with cheat meal I was only @ 1200 cals. It's the refeed I'm hesitant about though...supposed to reach close to maintenance and eat a ton of carbs to replenish glycogen. Might just try it for one week and see how it turns out.

[BradKemp]

I just upgraded my gym membership from 5 days to 7 days.

Game over.

Continue? 10..9..8..

[csb5731]

thanks. I found one little note that it enhances the effects of what you are taking, some have taken it with EC stack to increase the effect that already work together by taking ephedrine and caffeine together.
Also wonder if 35 calories is still ok to have to not break the fast. Not that i ever cared about fasting but its necessary for yohimbine to do its thing.

IIRC (it's been a while) l-tyrosine is the base A-A in the catecholamines (adrenaline/noradrenaline), which are part of the whole stubborn fat activation process. So taking l-tyrosine beforehand will insure that your body can make a good supply of them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catecholamine

[bullrider_IL]

Doing cardio. Then eating clean. Fml

[BradKemp]

Doing cardio. Then eating clean. Fml

cool avi of urinal.

Surprised its not on the cover of Flex magazine.