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    Deer antler velvet

    Taking dvs 500 mg, 3 x daily
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    Type 2 diabetic controlled by diet
    Last A1C was 7
    Starting weight 168
    Current weight 170
    Just turned 40
    Hit a plateau, trying to build more mass on my biceps.

    Note, it is having an effect of lowing my blood sugar.
    The Buddha said, "The nature of this existence is suffering and the absence of lasting satisfaction."

    Enjoy the pain, enjoy the burn.
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    Originally Posted by j2k7p73 View Post
    Taking dvs 500 mg, 3 x daily
    Started Feb 5th
    Type 2 diabetic controlled by diet
    Last A1C was 7
    Starting weight 168
    Current weight 170
    Just turned 40
    Hit a plateau, trying to build more mass on my biceps.

    Note, it is having an effect of lowing my blood sugar.

    But where's the Eye of Newt? Or the Toe of Frog?
    No brain, no gain.

    You can't out-train bad nutrition.

    "The fitness and nutrition world is a breeding ground for obsessive-compulsive behavior. The irony is that many of the things people worry about have no impact on results either way, and therefore aren't worth an ounce of concern."--Alan Aragon

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    Originally Posted by ironwill2008 View Post
    But where's the Eye of Newt? Or the Toe of Frog?
    You trying to get this thread locked or deleted man?
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    Originally Posted by ironwill2008 View Post
    But where's the Eye of Newt? Or the Toe of Frog?
    Would I still be considered natty if I used these substances?
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    Originally Posted by Bo_Flecks View Post
    Would I still be considered natty if I used these substances?
    Frog toes are banned by most natural bodybuilding federations.
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    Originally Posted by ironwill2008 View Post
    But where's the Eye of Newt? Or the Toe of Frog?
    O my. Thats classic
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    Originally Posted by j2k7p73 View Post
    Hit a plateau, trying to build more mass on my biceps.
    Lift
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    Sleep
    Repeat

    Deer antler velvet??? Really?????
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    C'mon guys. Deer antler velvet made Ray Lewis an all pro linebacker...
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    Meh.
    I hear mashed goat ballz are better.
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    Originally Posted by ArchAngel'73 View Post
    Meh.
    I hear mashed goat ballz are better.
    rocky mountain oysters!
    Lift light until you can lift right

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    Originally Posted by Get-n-fit View Post
    rocky mountain oysters!
    It disturbs me that I make up sh*t in my head and this sh*t is actually something irl. :eek;
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    Please keep in mind that the average new member would think it's legit after searching Google and one of the top results taking you here: http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/deer.html

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    Originally Posted by j2k7p73 View Post
    Deer antler velvet
    I did my own testing, and I found in a double blind experiment (I closed both of my eyes at once) that licking my velvet Elvis increased the volume of my ejaculate by 33.3 percent.





    It also miraculously made Elvis cry. Or was that just my saliva?
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    Originally Posted by j2k7p73 View Post
    Taking dvs 500 mg, 3 x daily
    Started Feb 5th
    Type 2 diabetic controlled by diet
    Last A1C was 7
    Starting weight 168
    Current weight 170
    Just turned 40
    Hit a plateau, trying to build more mass on my biceps.

    Note, it is having an effect of lowing my blood sugar.
    Interesting choice for a first post...
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    Originally Posted by ChicagoWineGeek View Post
    Interesting choice for a first post...
    OP is probably chris gethin, tryin' to go all 'incognito' and stuff.
    No brain, no gain.

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    Some herbs (like ephedra) clearly make effective supplements. Are there any animal based supplements that have been proven to work? Not counting protein powder or hormones.
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    Originally Posted by j2k7p73 View Post
    Starting weight 168
    Current weight 170

    Hit a plateau, trying to build more mass on my biceps.
    After gaining two pounds you should have easily increased 2-3" on teh bicepts
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    Originally Posted by 2nd_chance View Post
    After gaining two pounds you should have easily increased 2-3" on teh bicepts
    So lifting for a whole 3 days did not make you into a IFBB pro?????
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    Originally Posted by ironwill2008 View Post
    But where's the Eye of Newt? Or the Toe of Frog?
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    Originally Posted by drudixon View Post
    C'mon guys. Deer antler velvet made Ray Lewis an all pro linebacker...
    Actually, it got him healed up quickly so he could come back for his swan song culminating in Super Bowl abuse at the hands of Vernon Davis

    Amazing 17 year career - I'm no fan of his, but amazing career nonetheless. These past years he was a shadow of his former self, but that's nothing to cry over with his career.
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    I don't know that I would ingest anything that came from anywhere near the head of a deer, with the prions and all.
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    I don't know that I would ingest anything that came from anywhere near the head of a deer, with the prions and all.
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    Some herbs (like ephedra) clearly make effective supplements. Are there any animal based supplements that have been proven to work? Not counting protein powder or hormones.
    You can probably find studies/abstracts on a particular animal-derived supplement on university sites or scientific journals. Though anything you read on here will be anecdotal especially if the person reporting success failed to separate multiple factors like using a combination of supplements in conjunction with the one in question, and employing methods which can contribute to or duplicate the supplement's affects. For instance, the OP wrote the deer antler velvet has had an effect in lowering his blood sugar, but consistent diet and activity has also been shown to regulate the same in diabetics and non-diabetics alike.
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    So we have a sports talk show here in DC 106.7 and on sunday mornings there is a wrestling focused show with steve austin and a current Redskin(injured) and this topic came up. Austin claimed this one companies products were effective in healing him(same one Ray used) so before your mind is totally made up check it out. I have never used any of it but some things do look interesting.

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    Originally Posted by x-trainer ben View Post
    So we have a sports talk show here in DC 106.7 and on sunday mornings there is a wrestling focused show with steve austin and a current Redskin(injured) and this topic came up. Austin claimed this one companies products were effective in healing him(same one Ray used) so before your mind is totally made up check it out. I have never used any of it but some things do look interesting.

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