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    Should i add upper pecs and side/rear delts to lower/upper split?

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    Upper
    - Bench press
    - Incline bench press
    - Rows
    - Overhead press
    - Chin up
    - Dips / close grip bench press
    - Upright rows
    - Rear lateral raise

    all 3x6-10. rear lateral raise is 3x8-12

    or not necessary?
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    Seems like a lot if you're going to be doing 4-5 sets of each. If it's just 3 then I'd add military presses to it.
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    Originally Posted by doza808 View Post
    Seems like a lot if you're going to be doing 4-5 sets of each. If it's just 3 then I'd add military presses to it.
    all 3x6-10. i thought military press is same as overhead press?
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    Probably won't need the incline bench unless you really feel it's lagging. The bench + OHP should be enough if performed correctly.

    As for rear delts, some face pulls would be a good addition.
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    Originally Posted by germaine07 View Post
    Probably won't need the incline bench unless you really feel it's lagging. The bench + OHP should be enough if performed correctly.

    As for rear delts, some face pulls would be a good addition.
    what about home gym? i dont have machine to do face pulls. i have power cage, olympic barbell and dumbbell.

    can inverted rows work on rear delts?
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    Originally Posted by smallboy2012 View Post
    what about home gym? i dont have machine to do face pulls. i have power cage, olympic barbell and dumbbell.

    can inverted rows work on rear delts?
    Yeah rows will hit the delts but I'm not sure to what degree. Maybe rear laterals will help.
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    Originally Posted by germaine07 View Post
    Yeah rows will hit the delts but I'm not sure to what degree. Maybe rear laterals will help.
    ok thanks
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    Originally Posted by smallboy2012 View Post
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    Upper
    - Bench press
    - Incline bench press
    - Rows
    - Overhead press
    - Chin up
    - Dips / close grip bench press
    - Upright rows
    - Rear lateral raise

    all 3x6-10. rear lateral raise is 3x8-12

    or not necessary?
    I would cut this down to 4-5 compound movements and 2-3 iso movements, but also have a different upper day later in the week. This will allow you to fit in a greater variaty of lifts.

    such as

    Upper A

    Bench press
    Rows
    Incline Bench
    Pull up
    Curls
    Rear delts

    Upper B

    OHP
    Pull up
    CG Bench or Dips
    Rows
    skull crusher
    upright row

    Hit the first 2 exercises each day with 4x6-8 and the rest with 3-4x10-12
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    Originally Posted by JSNeves View Post
    I would cut this down to 4-5 compound movements and 2-3 iso movements, but also have a different upper day later in the week. This will allow you to fit in a greater variaty of lifts.

    such as

    Upper A

    Bench press
    Rows
    Incline Bench
    Pull up
    Curls
    Rear delts

    Upper B

    OHP
    Pull up
    CG Bench or Dips
    Rows
    skull crusher
    upright row

    Hit the first 2 exercises each day with 4x6-8 and the rest with 3-4x10-12
    but i want to do same exercises on both days.

    Bench press
    Rows
    Overhead press
    Chinup
    A Dips / B close grip bench press
    A Upright row / B rear delts

    how about this?
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    Originally Posted by smallboy2012 View Post
    but i want to do same exercises on both days.

    Bench press
    Rows
    Overhead press
    Chinup
    A Dips / B close grip bench press
    A Upright row / B rear delts

    how about this?
    First why do you want both days to be the same? You need to have a good reason for it to be part of your program.

    Second keeping the core lifts the same and changing the couple isolation exercises is a good plan, if you want to keep the core lifts the same.

    The reason I advocate changing the main lifts each day (or at least changing the exercise order and reps) is to help prevent stalling in your program, and allow you to give equal effort to all movement planes.
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