As I understand it BCAAs are only useful if you dont eat meat preworkout. As meat has most of the BCAAs you need. Infact I think I read the article from here. But basically you need bcaas every 4-6 hours I think it was.
Conflicting opinions on BCAA's and Glutamine (well supplements in general I suppose).
To outright state "is proven useless" of these supplements however is showing ignorance, as there is always research that contradicts findings of others.
How effective these supplements are, I don't truely know. However considering they are all fairly cheap I take them for the lulz.
Actually glutamine is scientifically proven to do nothing beneficial in the realm of weight training.
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Conflicting opinions on BCAA's and Glutamine (well supplements in general I suppose).
To outright state "is proven useless" of these supplements however is showing ignorance, as there is always research that contradicts findings of others.
How effective these supplements are, I don't truely know. However considering they are all fairly cheap I take them for the lulz.
taking all the research as a whole, it can been conclusively deduced that Glutamine has no efficacy whatsoever taking as an oral supplement.
Ignoring conclusive research is "showing ignorance"
Negged for using studies on rats to prove that something is scientifically proven.
No. It was to show that the opposite was not scientifically proven. Big difference.
Originally Posted by TheJediBrah
I can't believe i actually wasted a minute looking at those studies.
They have nothing to do with oral glutamine supplementation at all.
The last one actually did, and you can find a few more studies that do. Yes, most studies show that glutamine has no effect, I agree on that. It's not as large a majority as, for example, creatine studies, however.
I don't think any possibly existing effect in glutamine is large enough to be worth investing money in, but I dislike any statements that say that it's "proven" to do absolutely nothing. The black-and-white-mentality is extremely tiring.
The last one actually did, and you can find a few more studies that do. Yes, most studies show that glutamine has no effect, I agree on that. It's not as large a majority as, for example, creatine studies, however.
I don't think any possibly existing effect in glutamine is large enough to be worth investing money in, but I dislike any statements that say that it's "proven" to do absolutely nothing. The black-and-white-mentality is extremely tiring.
Then why did you post the first 3?
And every scientific principle will have studies that go against it, even the most widely accepeted ones. The trick is looking at all the research as a whole and making informed conclusions.
As for the last study you posted, it takes a bit of an assumption to conclude that it suggests improved muscle recovery, and even ignoring most of the limitations of the study (7 subjects . . . the sample size was SEVEN lol), you would often look with a certain skepticism on something that was conducted over 10 years ago
As I understand it BCAAs are only useful if you dont eat meat preworkout. As meat has most of the BCAAs you need. Infact I think I read the article from here. But basically you need bcaas every 4-6 hours I think it was.
Basically saying if someone "fast" then they should take BCCA
whey, creatine, fish oil, glucosamine with chondroitin and MSM. Everything else is optional; glutamine literally has minimal benefits it's non-essential and oral glutamine basically stays in the small intestine with a minimal amount getting absorbed; BCAA's are optional depending on how dispersed your protein is and the leucine content in your meals. A pre-workout for me is mandatory(totalis eryday).
Current stack is:
Whey
Fish Oil
Glucosamine
Totalis+Citrulline Malate
Creatine
Fiber Powder(IIFYM ftw!)
Multi(Got a multi with just about the same ingredient profile as opti-mens with 200 servings for $25)
When I start cutting I'll add yohimbine HCL and ephedrine.
As I understand it BCAAs are only useful if you dont eat meat preworkout. As meat has most of the BCAAs you need. Infact I think I read the article from here. But basically you need bcaas every 4-6 hours I think it was.
It would be more informative to say BCAA's are beneficial to peak protein synthesis. As far as I'm aware you can effectively spike protein synthesis about 4-5 times a day. Additionally, I believe you can only spike 3-4 hours apart. The magic number for maximizing protein synthesis is about .05g of leucine per kg of bodyweight so for me I'd be close to about 5g which would take the whey I bought 2 scoops to reach 5g leucine at 2.5 each. So BCAA's are actually great to add with a meal or two here and there to peak protein synthesis because most meals don't have a leucine content that peaks protein synthesis. Your average whey shake contains about 2g per serving.
My aims changed a while ago from trying to get huge for rugby to just trying to get abs and live a lean body lifestyle. I've been using no supplements for the last little while and spending my money instead on tinned tuna and turkey breast (I roast 6 turkey breast fillets on a sunday evening, then cut up one breast every day and eat it with mixed leaf salad, red peppers, mushrooms, pecan nuts and dried cranberries in a salad. I don't seem to be making gains/losing fat any faster now I'm not using supplements than when I was using supplements. I think diet is far far more important than what you supplement it with and too many of my friends and people I know eat a fairly crappy diet and rely too much on supplements for their nutrition.
2KG of whey and 250g of creatine arrived today though. Having not been using whey in a long time and having never taken creatine before I'll be able to see how it affects me, my muscle gains and my weight loss now that I'm eating well.
Nothing to be honest, supplements are only mean't to supplement a diet, if your diet is good enough it won't really make that much of a difference, I look at supplements as a convenience, not a necessity.
I just take creatine, whey and fish-oils, sometimes if I have some extra cash I'll buy a PWO or some BCAA's, but I'd rather spend that money on steak
Nothing to be honest, supplements are only mean't to supplement a diet, if your diet is good enough it won't really make that much of a difference, I look at supplements as a convenience, not a necessity.
I just take creatine, whey and fish-oils, sometimes if I have some extra cash I'll buy a PWO or some BCAA's, but I'd rather spend that money on steak
Who was performance? Who was creatine? Who was beta-alanine? Who was glucosamine?
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