Look at the difference between Tom Platz's legs and Lou Ferrigno's. Platz's legs made it look like Lou didn't even work legs. What gives? Was it genetics or was Tom a maniac and Lou a slacker?
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Thread: Hard Work or Genetics?
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02-19-2013, 02:04 PM #1
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02-19-2013, 02:14 PM #3
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Platz is a FREAK!!!!!
(Genetics, in his case). Not saying he didn't work hard. But he was also very obviously blessed. There are others who may have a very similar blueprint who will never have those legs because they don't have Mr. Platz's work/Squat ethic.Sheriff John Brown always hated me
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02-19-2013, 02:42 PM #4
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02-19-2013, 03:35 PM #10anonymousGuest
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02-19-2013, 04:46 PM #11
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02-19-2013, 04:48 PM #12
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02-19-2013, 05:00 PM #13
It's both, along with a lotta dat dere Sel-Tek.
But mainly, he had the genes to get that way. No, he probably didn't know he'd get THAT freaky at the time he started out--no one does, and sure, he worked harder than others of his day to maximize what he had--and that's the secret, if there is one--it's yo' mothafukkin' set an' all--you have to work hard...but there are a lot of guys who do everything right for them, eat right for them, and some of them even take an extra dose of Sel-Tek...and they'll never get that way. Ever. Just the way it is.
Take home message: Work hard on what you got, do whatever it takes to get you to the level you think you can get to--and if you've taken on the lines of a champ after two years of hard and correct training (for you), then chances are you'll be one. Then you can choose to go the Sel-Tek route if you wish. The "two years" thing came from Bill Pearl who knows way more about training than I ever will.
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02-19-2013, 05:26 PM #16
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02-19-2013, 05:27 PM #17
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On the off-chance you're not being sarcastic, read my first post, please.
No, I'll answer for you. Of course Big Lou did. And I'm sure he trained hard--for him. But he didn't have the genes to get his legs up to the mega-freaky level. Eventually, he got them more or less in proportion to his upper body, but due to his height he'd always look a little thin in the leg area.
I read somewhere he had a hip replacement job done. Is that genes or hard training or both?
Or maybe it's dat dere Sel-tek."Don't call me Miss Kitty. Just...don't."--Catnip. Check out the Catnip Trilogy on Amazon.com
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02-19-2013, 05:30 PM #18
The problem with these bodybuilder is that its hard to know when training or genetics came in cause most of these behemoth have taken roids.
I can assure you can do what they did to the exact tee but you will not look like them cause of roids.
Training and hard work comes in when results are guaranteed!
But lets face it they do have more time to dedicate their craft compared to what most people have.
I'm not 100% sure if working harder would results to the things that this guy has cause again the line between genetics, training and nutrition becomes a blur when roids come into play. Even they can't say what was the real factor their success!
I do however admire greeco-roman sculpture they are probably the best historical record of what genetic potential is all about!
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02-19-2013, 06:49 PM #19
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Your idea of gear is skewed...it's not a magic wand that will cure crappy diet and poor training. Alot more people than you think use "Sel-Tek" but 99% of them couldn't come close to being Olympia calibre.
Hard Work + Sel-Tek = amateur bodybuilder
Hard work + Sel-Tek + Genetics = Platz^^Former 400+lb Crew^^
August 23rd 2011 - 469.8lbs
August 23rd 2012 - 201.4lbs
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02-19-2013, 07:16 PM #20
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02-19-2013, 08:26 PM #21
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It's hard to compare them as Platz revolutionized leg training. Before him, no one had big legs. He emphasized legs way more than anyone of his era.. With that being said, Platz has genetically some of the best legs ever. Muscle bellies/separation/development of abductors. All of it was amazing. When Lou made his come back, he trained legs more, but they still lagged behind. Pretty expected since he had been developing an imbalance for almost his whole training career.
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02-19-2013, 08:39 PM #22
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02-20-2013, 04:28 AM #24
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to look that freaky, regardless of what supplements you use, is definitely genetically based....
this presumes working hard and correctly....
but as we all know, you can have a buddy that you train with and do identical workouts together, and yet one of you will always respond a little better....
that, is the genetic component...potential to put on a certain amount of mass...and varies from person to person.....
the same thing, of course , applies to gear, because genetically, everyone responds different to that also....
My contention has always been that we don't really know our true potential, so, we should train AS IF WE HAVE NO LIMITS and see where it takes us.....Lift as MUCH as you can, for as MANY reps as you can,
while in complete control of the exercise.
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02-20-2013, 05:26 AM #25
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02-20-2013, 06:09 AM #26
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02-20-2013, 06:35 AM #27
Both. Since all Pro bodybuilders play on a level field (IYKWIM) that's pretty much all that's left.
Platz's leg workouts were legendary. The writups about them in the muscle mags fueled many of mine, and millions of others' own leg training sessions. And even though he retired years ago, his name still comes up at or near the top of any current poll of who has/had the best legs in bodybuilding.No brain, no gain.
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02-20-2013, 09:11 AM #28
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