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    Lol please go. Dude has no chin and we saw that in pride,he just got exposed once again.
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    LOL well done. BTW, come on guys, his chin was not the issue. He got tagged multiple times before going out. Maybe you can criticize him for being semi-Frank Mir there with the freeze and just cover when tagged...but it's not like he went down from weak shots.
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    This proved that he hes a good chin. Silva hit him with like 5 big shots before Reem went down and that's by the biggest guy in the division.
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    Nice call Lolwer89 lol! I guess being a teen-aged internet troll and a blowhard who says he spends hours studying MMA and thus knows vastly more then everyone else doesn't mean you can pick a winner eh, lol! Oh well, keep your chin up son it's all good. Once Reem gets back on the horse meat and roids he will get some more wins.
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    Originally Posted by BlackRadio View Post
    This proved that he hes a good chin.
    Having a good chin doesn't just mean that you can take a shot without getting KO'd, it also means that you can take a shot and not freeze up and become a punching bag...
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    Originally Posted by BlackRadio View Post
    This proved that he hes a good chin. Silva hit him with like 5 big shots before Reem went down and that's by the biggest guy in the division.
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    Lol Overeem gets all cocky and gets KTFO in embarassing fashion.
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    Originally Posted by dimethylmercury View Post
    Having a good chin doesn't just mean that you can take a shot without getting KO'd, it also means that you can take a shot and not freeze up and become a punching bag...
    Then what made you ever think Overeem had a good chin?

    He's gotten better at taking shots without going down and getting KO'd, but even in K-1 he's relied on covering up to regain composure and then come back out swinging.
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    Well played lawler.. well played.

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    LOL well done. BTW, come on guys, his chin was not the issue. He got tagged multiple times before going out. Maybe you can criticize him for being semi-Frank Mir there with the freeze and just cover when tagged...but it's not like he went down from weak shots.
    His chin has never been an issue in the conventional sense. Even back in Pride he wasn't going out cold Liddell or Arlovski style. He just reacts very poorly when he gets rocked.
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    Overeem was the better fighter, and also the cockier/dumber one as well. He'll humble up and be back.
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    respect to lawler not easy to support a fighter through ups and downs.

    Most of this forum is not a fan of any fighter so they will never know what it is like

    I thought the fight was entertaining and hope that this is a wake up call for reem to take training seriously again. I thought he peaked in the k-1 tournament and he needs to get that intensity back.
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    Originally Posted by IAmBatman View Post
    His chin has never been an issue in the conventional sense. Even back in Pride he wasn't going out cold Liddell or Arlovski style. He just reacts very poorly when he gets rocked.
    Liddell basically starched him; Shogun did in at least one of their 2 fights. Kharitonov did too back in 2007.
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    Reem needs to be at a normal weight for his frame, packing on extra 20-30 lbs of muscle slows him down drastically in later rounds..... Frankie Edgar or Fitch would have KOd him in that 3rd round
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    this proved he has a chin?.... it was already proven it was always suspect

    the reem problem was cockyness n gassing out point blank period.... he needs to switch his training methods & lose some size tbh... him along with the diaz bros need to come together n meet at a middle ground cause both guys prob wont win belts without integrating each other training methods
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    Overeem is still a top 5 HW and can win again. People lovvve to right off Bigfoot like he's a nobody, probably as a way to discredit Fedors loss to him but Silva is literally a monster. Relentless, well rounded and moves incredible for a guy with his body structure. He can win against any other HW. I wouldn't count him out in rematches with Cain or Cormier either.
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    Originally Posted by SwayWay View Post
    Overeem is still a top 5 HW and can win again. People lovvve to right off Bigfoot like he's a nobody, probably as a way to discredit Fedors loss to him but Silva is literally a monster. Relentless, well rounded and moves incredible for a guy with his body structure. He can win against any other HW. I wouldn't count him out in rematches with Cain or Cormier either.
    I agree with all of that...except for the moves incredibly...and thinking he could beat Cain or Cormier. JDS' handspeed would also slaughter him. He's an underrated HW and very good and dangerous...but he's very slow...and his head doesn't move. Overeem got in trouble tonight because he excels more at closer range, and Silva tied him up when they got close. Overeem was definitely overconfident and seemed rusty to me, but he also got tired by the 3rd round.
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    Originally Posted by BlackRadio View Post
    This proved that he hes a good chin. Silva hit him with like 5 big shots before Reem went down and that's by the biggest guy in the division.

    He was nearly out on his feet, so no that did not prove he has a good chin.

    Overeem deserved to lose. How can a fighter be that cocky, especially at HW... Walking to the cage with that stupid ass crooked hat and acting like he already won the fight. Then he gets in the cage and hardly lands any good strikes while keeping his hands at his side like a douchebag. Then just like old times, he gets finished as soon as things don't go his way.
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    Originally Posted by SwayWay View Post
    Overeem is still a top 5 HW and can win again. People lovvve to right off Bigfoot like he's a nobody, probably as a way to discredit Fedors loss to him but Silva is literally a monster. Relentless, well rounded and moves incredible for a guy with his body structure. He can win against any other HW. I wouldn't count him out in rematches with Cain or Cormier either.
    cain got ko'd in the first round by jds yet he is now champion after two wins since that fight

    the hw division is weird so he easily can get back into the title hunt especially considering how much dana is paying him. If he loses his next fight he is in serious trouble so I really don't think we are going to see him be so careless again. This is his first loss at hw so hopefully he takes this as a serious learning situation. I'd like to see him improve his cardio and speed. His huge counter boxing style works with big gloves and no takedowns but he needs to adapt his striking game for mma as well as his body. He is holding too much muscle imo for his body structure, he needs to possibly drop some muscle and work heavily on his cardio and speed.
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    The biggest factor in him getting ktfo wasn't ring rust, his chin, cardio , speed, or going off roids. He was being a jack ass. He was fighting with his hands down against a 285lb man acting like he can't get hurt.

    He fought stupid, he fought arrogant, and he paid for it. A guy he shouldve demolished beat him because of it. It was embarassing to watch.

    I was afraid it would happen and that he was underestimating silva, but watching it unfold live was just pathetic.
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    Originally Posted by battousai216 View Post
    The biggest factor in him getting ktfo wasn't ring rust, his chin, cardio , speed, or going off roids. He was being a jack ass. He was fighting with his hands down against a 285lb man acting like he can't get hurt.

    He fought stupid, he fought arrogant, and he paid for it. A guy he shouldve demolished beat him because of it. It was embarassing to watch.

    I was afraid it would happen and that he was underestimating silva, but watching it unfold live was just pathetic.
    Posted the same thing on Sherdog.
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    Originally Posted by LAWLER89 View Post
    Posted the same thing on Sherdog.
    I havent even checked sherdog yet, I can't imagine how bad it is. The worst thing ive seen here tonight is that this fight proved you can't block in mma...

    I'm trying to remember the last time I got so butthurt(yeah I can admit it) over a fight lol.

    EDIT: were you implying i posted this on sd? I never post on sd, only browse for news. Theyre even worse then this place with the trolling and **** talking so I just avoid posting. Ever.
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    Originally Posted by battousai216 View Post
    The biggest factor in him getting ktfo wasn't ring rust, his chin, cardio , speed, or going off roids. He was being a jack ass. He was fighting with his hands down against a 285lb man acting like he can't get hurt.

    He fought stupid, he fought arrogant, and he paid for it. A guy he shouldve demolished beat him because of it. It was embarassing to watch.

    I was afraid it would happen and that he was underestimating silva, but watching it unfold live was just pathetic.
    Honestly overeem needs to get back with golden glory. His striking just isn't as polished and I don't think he's pushed in the same way for training.

    Bigfoot is no joke either, my mouth dropped when he went for a high kick. Still think he'd be trouble in a rematch for cain/cormier. Dude is a relentless monster when he's on point.
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    Originally Posted by lawler89 View Post
    posted the same thing on sherdog.
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    Originally Posted by SwayWay View Post
    Honestly overeem needs to get back with golden glory. His striking just isn't as polished and I don't think he's pushed in the same way for training.

    Bigfoot is no joke either, my mouth dropped when he went for a high kick. Still think he'd be trouble in a rematch for cain/cormier. Dude is a relentless monster when he's on point.
    I dont think gg is an option but I think blackzillians as a camp just doesnt seem too be performing well. I really just think reem fought stupid and arrogant and thats why he lost to a fighter I believe he is more skilled than.
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