Which would you rank more neccasary BJJ or Wrestling

[Catabolic_Cal]

If you could only train in one which would you choose BJJ or Wrestling(Freestyl,collegiate ect)

We both know there both important but if you could choose only one which would you go with.

[user4544]

definetly BJJ. Every MMA fighter needs atleast some knowledge in BJJ. They need to kno how to defend a submission and atlest be able to escape and apply some subs. There are also takedowns in BJJ. Whereas wrestling its all takedowns and top game.

[Catabolic_Cal]

definetly BJJ. Every MMA fighter needs atleast some knowledge in BJJ. They need to kno how to defend a submission and atlest be able to escape and apply some subs. There are also takedowns in BJJ. Whereas wrestling its all takedowns and top game.

Wrestlers have done quite well to with almost little or no BJJ though

[user4544]

Wrestlers have done quite well to with almost little or no BJJ though

k but were talking how ur basically choosing subs or takedowns. Name me one person in MMA who has done very well without some sort of submissions in his training. Thers is none, you have to have some sort of submission game.

[dixon]

If you could only train in one which would you choose BJJ or Wrestling(Freestyl,collegiate ect)

We both know there both important but if you could choose only one which would you go with.

I would never choose only one. Stupid question.

[Piotrus69]

yes BJJ is more important but none the less wrestling is a vital aspect of mma

[Catabolic_Cal]

I would never choose only one. Stupid question.

I know dumbass but i said if you had to choose 1 to take.

And some wrestling such as submission wrestling does have submissions lol

And i have a list of fighters who have very little BJJ and alot of wrestling if you want.

[dixon]

I know dumbass but i said if you had to choose 1 to take.

And I said it is a stupid, retarded question. Because quite frankly, it is. You are the dumbass. You should set yourself on fire and burn until you die.

And some wrestling such as submission wrestling does have submissions lol

Submission grappling is not "wrestling"--which refers to folkstyle or greco.

And i have a list of fighters who have very little BJJ and alot of wrestling if you want.

Cool.

[Catabolic_Cal]

And I said it is a stupid, retarded question. Because quite frankly, it is. You are the dumbass. You should set yourself on fire and burn until you die.


Submission wrestling is not "wrestling"--which refers to folkstyle or greco.


Cool.

Yeah yeah your really cool we get it.

When i get my cousins Camcorder ill record a video of me in a match so you can see how a wrestler can dominate a BJJ practitioner.

[dixon]

Yeah yeah your really cool we get it.

When i get my cousins Camcorder ill record a video of me in a match so you can see how a wrestler can dominate a BJJ practitioner.

And what will that prove?

By the way, I'll continue doing submission grappling, which is both wrestling and submissions, and dominate people from each of those styles. It's obvious that doing one style is retarded for MMA. You = Retard.

[Catabolic_Cal]

And what will that prove?

By the way, I'll continue doing submission grappling, which is both wrestling and submissions, and dominate people from each of those styles. It's obvious that doing one style is retarded for MMA. You = Retard.

WE OBVIOUSLY KNOW THAT.I mean i tryed stating that enough i can't stress it more i know MMa=Mixed not one martial art for gods sake I'm saying if you could only train in ONE its a hypothetical situation what are you not getting.If you could only train in BJJ or Wrestling as your primary grappling skill.

[user4544]

Yeah yeah your really cool we get it.

When i get my cousins Camcorder ill record a video of me in a match so you can see how a wrestler can dominate a BJJ practitioner.

k thers no good accomplished mma wrestler with no submission game. NOBODY

[Catabolic_Cal]

k thers no good accomplished mma wrestler with no submission game. NOBODY

What about Kevin randleman?

[LatsMakeTheMan]

Just BJJ will let you survive.

Wrestling + BJJ will let you kick ass.

(In MMA competition, that is)

[Kane Fan]

k but were talking how ur basically choosing subs or takedowns. Name me one person in MMA who has done very well without some sort of submissions in his training. Thers is none, you have to have some sort of submission game.

there's nobody out there that dosn't train wrestling either
so that's not the ponit
the pointis if you could only train one
I'd take wrestling and use it to avoid the bjj guy
see the bjj guy has some takedown training
ok, and he's about as likely to take down the wrestler as the wrestler is to submit the bjj guy via armbar....
so if you have wrestling you can just ignore the other guys bjj and make it a striking contest

[Kane Fan]

k thers no good accomplished mma wrestler with no submission game. NOBODY

Chuck Lidell
Randy Couture
between them they have like 3 submission wins in mma
now tell me about how neither of them have any accomplishments

[usiim-aryt]

Liddell is a purple belt and Couture went to a draw with Jacare.
Obviously they have a weak submission game.

[nuttybl]

Chuck Lidell
Randy Couture
between them they have like 3 submission wins in mma
now tell me about how neither of them have any accomplishments

bjj is also about defense. randy is very good at bjj, infact suprisingly he is great at the rubber guard.

[valhalla82]

k thers no good accomplished mma wrestler with no submission game. NOBODY

That's all there is to it. PERIOD. Wrestling gives you good leverage, but if you don't know bjj, you don't know when you're in trouble. That's when **** ends really quick.

Vikings, I love the kimbo quote. lmao

[thecooleric]

Wrestling for takedowns and overall athletic training.































Then Sambo for subs.

[hfce354]

Anyone hear of striking? You need that too.

[thecooleric]

Anyone hear of striking? You need that too.

And?


That's not what the thread is about.

[hfce354]

And?


That's not what the thread is about.

Ok then. Wrestling because you can avoid being taken down and dominate the top position. Wrestling ground and pound or lay and pray for the 3 round decision victory.

[HardGainer82]

Pure wrestling is good for takedowns and positions.

Pure BJJ is good for submissions.

A PURE wrestler, which is what this thread is about, has no sub defense. A pure BJJ guy won't mind being put on his back by someone with no sub defense.

[Catabolic_Cal]

Whoah overwhelming majority prefers BJJ

I've never had bjj training but my first mma match i destroyed a guy who trained in BJJ

Wrestling ftw his takedowns were pathetic and he kept rolling on his back expecting to me roll with him lmao

[Kane Fan]

Liddell is a purple belt and Couture went to a draw with Jacare.
Obviously they have a weak submission game.

?
um they have 3 Submission wins between them
they utilize wrestling FAR more then submissions
deal with it

[Kane Fan]

Pure wrestling is good for takedowns and positions.

Pure BJJ is good for submissions.

A PURE wrestler, which is what this thread is about, has no sub defense. A pure BJJ guy won't mind being put on his back by someone with no sub defense.

ok, he also can't take down anyone who is a solid wrestler...
see the problem with that theory?
you assume because someone trains wrestling over bjj they will go for the takdown, not a safe assumption

[jaredmt]

bjj isnt 100% submissions... they know how to wrestle too and take down too. they're also good at getting out of different positions.
another thing bjj trains that wrestling doesnt do is punching. constant punches to the kidney can get u out of different holds.

but on the street, bjj is good to know but honestly i would NOT want to go to the ground in the first place. but it is good to know bjj just incase thats where the fight goes

[Kozma]

BJJ or any kind of submission art is required for MMA

[juniorftw]

I'd go with BJJ.