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    Originally Posted by Jason2459 View Post
    Up your fats. Take a lot of fish oil. If any sup has helped me the most for helping my recovery has been lot of fish oil. It has reduced joint issues and inflammation. I take like 14-16 liquid softgels a day. Along with getting in a lot of MCT oil from coconut oil used in cooking and my pre-post-workout shakes.
    HOLY **** 14-16????? I take 2-3 the recommended dosage. Mine are 1200 mg what are urs?? Also I weigh 160 and take in around 100g fat a day. Do I need more?
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    Originally Posted by musclehead09 View Post
    HOLY **** 14-16????? I take 2-3 the recommended dosage. Mine are 1200 mg what are urs?? Also I weigh 160 and take in around 100g fat a day. Do I need more?
    It's EPA/DHA content that matter not the total amount of oil. The one I have on my desk in front of me is 2400mg for 2 softgels only giving 360mg EPA and 240mg DHA.
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    Originally Posted by Jason2459 View Post
    It's EPA/DHA content that matter not the total amount of oil. The one I have on my desk in front of me is 2400mg for 2 softgels only giving 360mg EPA and 240mg DHA.
    Okay I thought too many especially for my size could cause stomachs bleeding.

    Also do ur abductors ever feel real sore? I must say 5x5 squats fried my abductors but they're feeling better today. Ever since I started pushing out with my hips more my abductors get sore.

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    Never heard of ulcers due to oil. I am susceptible to ulcers and haven't had any from it. My coffee and caffeine intake on the other hand has and causes some issues at times.
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    Originally Posted by Jason2459 View Post
    Never heard of ulcers due to oil. I am susceptible to ulcers and haven't had any from it. My coffee and caffeine intake on the other hand has and causes some issues at times.
    Hmm okay I looked it up and didn't find anything. I forgot where I heard that but anyways should I gradually increase my intake of it? Maybe take it up to 4 a day then after a week do 5 then 6 and so on until maybe 10?
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    You can if you want. Or just start upping the dose. I'd start out with around 8-12 and see how it feels. For me personally it wasn't until I got to 14 that it helped me.
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    Originally Posted by Jason2459 View Post
    You can if you want. Or just start upping the dose. I'd start out with around 8-12 and see how it feels. For me personally it wasn't until I got to 14 that it helped me.
    Okay cool. If I'm eating tuna on top of it then ill see. But as I asked do ur abductors ever feel fried after squatting? I guess the only stretch that relieves it is the butterfly stretch
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    Originally Posted by musclehead09 View Post
    ... But as I asked do ur abductors ever feel fried after squatting? I guess the only stretch that relieves it is the butterfly stretch
    umm... sure, my muscles get fatigued when I use them. I squat to stretch them out.
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    Originally Posted by Jason2459 View Post
    umm... sure, my muscles get fatigued when I use them. I squat to stretch them out.
    I'm just saying I usually get sore quads. Abductor soreness feels weird as hell.
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    Originally Posted by Jason2459 View Post
    Up your fats. Take a lot of fish oil. If any sup has helped me the most for helping my recovery has been lot of fish oil. It has reduced joint issues and inflammation. I take like 14-16 liquid softgels a day. Along with getting in a lot of MCT oil from coconut oil used in cooking and my pre-post-workout shakes.
    Also how often do u take ur capsules??
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    Originally Posted by musclehead09 View Post
    Also how often do u take ur capsules??
    Through out the day. 2-4 at a time.
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    After 4 capsules I had diarrhea. Guess I gotta just man up and take it
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    Spread it out more and take with food. . 2 early morning w/ breakfast. 2 with lunch. 2 with some snack. 2 with dinner.
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    Originally Posted by Jason2459 View Post
    Spread it out more and take with food. . 2 early morning w/ breakfast. 2 with lunch. 2 with some snack. 2 with dinner.
    Okay thanks man
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    if your giving yourself 6 hours to sleep your more then likely getting less sleep then that as it takes some time to get into a deep sleep where you will see most of the benefits

    If you can't change it then just expect to not get optimized results doesn't mean you wont make any progress though
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    Originally Posted by Jason2459 View Post
    Spread it out more and take with food. . 2 early morning w/ breakfast. 2 with lunch. 2 with some snack. 2 with dinner.
    I take my 10 at once haha. Gotta love that fish oil heart burn
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    Yeah, some people can take it all at once but if it causes issues then spreading it out and with food will help. I do 4 at a time lunch, afternoon, dinner, late night/before training
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    engineering student here, averaging 3-4 hours of sleep most nights w/ 2-3 hour naps at some point during the day (bout every other day, actually).

    it's going to suck OP. first 3 months of it, I lost a lot of my progress. squat dropped from 350x3 to around 300-320x3, bench from 250x7 to 235-240x5, deadlift from 485-490 to around 440... some days, I'd grind out a max bench single at 225. others, I'd be crushed under a 275 squat.

    just now making my gains back. been on TM for the last 2 1/2 weeks after a 29-37-32 cycle. hit 250 5x5 on bench and pulled 470 in that time. you'll just need to fight through the depression and weakness, keep eating hard, and experiment with different training methodologies until something clicks and puts you on track again.

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    Originally Posted by Smolovicus View Post
    engineering student here, averaging 3-4 hours of sleep most nights w/ 2-3 hour naps at some point during the day (bout every other day, actually).

    it's going to suck OP. first 3 months of it, I lost a lot of my progress. squat dropped from 350x3 to around 300-320x3, bench from 250x7 to 235-240x5, deadlift from 485-490 to around 440... some days, I'd grind out a max bench single at 225. others, I'd be crushed under a 275 squat.

    just now making my gains back. been on TM for the last 2 1/2 weeks after a 29-37-32 cycle. hit 250 5x5 on bench and pulled 470 in that time. you'll just need to fight through the depression and weakness, keep eating hard, and experiment with different training methodologies until something clicks and puts you on track again.

    just have to fight for it OP.
    repped. definitely man! good luck to you. that's gotta suck. but you will get stronger than ever.
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    Originally Posted by Smolovicus View Post
    engineering student here, averaging 3-4 hours of sleep most nights w/ 2-3 hour naps at some point during the day (bout every other day, actually).

    it's going to suck OP. first 3 months of it, I lost a lot of my progress. squat dropped from 350x3 to around 300-320x3, bench from 250x7 to 235-240x5, deadlift from 485-490 to around 440... some days, I'd grind out a max bench single at 225. others, I'd be crushed under a 275 squat.

    just now making my gains back. been on TM for the last 2 1/2 weeks after a 29-37-32 cycle. hit 250 5x5 on bench and pulled 470 in that time. you'll just need to fight through the depression and weakness, keep eating hard, and experiment with different training methodologies until something clicks and puts you on track again.

    just have to fight for it OP.
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    You don't get enough sleep to recover and you will run into those problems.
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    Originally Posted by tickifroyoticki View Post
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    Yup. It'll take a very long time I know. But okay realistic goals for this program:
    Squat 405x5
    Bench 275x5
    Deadlift 495x5
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    Well it sounds like you can't change the amount of sleep you get, so there is no point to worry about it. Your only option seems to be to put 100% effort into TM for an extended period of time and see what happens.
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    Well it sounds like you can't change the amount of sleep you get, so there is no point to worry about it. Your only option seems to be to put 100% effort into TM for an extended period of time and see what happens.
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    Well it sounds like you can't change the amount of sleep you get, so there is no point to worry about it. Your only option seems to be to put 100% effort into TM for an extended period of time and see what happens.
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    Originally Posted by arian11 View Post
    ? Are you me from the future? 18 5'10" 129 lbs...actually, are you me from the past?
    lmfao
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    Is it okay to do grip work everyday? Even day before deadlifts? Like plate pinches, wrist curls, heavy dumbbell holds etc? Cuz my grip is pathetic. I pulled 300 the other week with EASE off the ground And couldn't hold onto it to lockout. I'm so tempted to use straps until my grip is better cuz I know I can pull so much more if my grip wasn't so bad.

    Yeah I know straps aren't used in comp but what do I do when I can't hold onto the weight. I won't wanna continuously deload unless that's what u should do
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    My best gains came from when I was an engineering student. Got to lay around and eat and do nothing all day, then go lift, then lay around and eat some more.
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