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    Layne Norton vs Dorian Yates on Twitter

    Oh lawd



    Edit- layne was discussing HIT vs high volume with some random and Dorian jumped in. No specific study was noted.
    Last edited by Lintford; 02-11-2013 at 04:08 PM.
    but who was lift
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    Dorian Yates can say what the fuk he wants, if he told me that the best diet consisted entirely of lightbulbs and the dead batteries from used electric toothbrushes I'd probably at least try it for a month
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    They need to get Layne on the Rogan podcast
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    Layne Norton = rich spoiled kid that got a fancy degree at some fancy college.

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    Lol what a douche. its so hypocritical, the bbers use "science" when its what they want to hear or it goes along with what theyve been taught, but say no to science when its contradictory.

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    whats this about?
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    They need to get Layne on the Rogan podcast
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    Originally Posted by MacDaddy68 View Post
    whats this about?
    Science vs Broscience. what else
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    what are they argueing about anyway?
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    Okay, so I don't know what the study is like, Layne was the most annoying Olympia commentator ever and Dorian didn't answer the question

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    Originally Posted by JustDan17 View Post
    Dorian Yates can say what the fuk he wants, if he told me that the best diet consisted entirely of lightbulbs and the dead batteries from used electric toothbrushes I'd probably at least try it for a month
    Then you're an idiot.
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    thanks for the backstory op you fukking dropkick

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    lol yates is fuking moron


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    You're in the middle of a battlefield, would you rather take a guy who enlisted in the army at 18, served 10 years and is a sergeant or a kid fresh outta west point, lieutenant?
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    Originally Posted by Lamborg View Post
    You're in the middle of a battlefield, would you rather take a guy who enlisted in the army at 18, served 10 years and is a sergeant or a kid fresh outta west point, lieutenant?
    Urine idiot.
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    Layne's point makes more sense, but what study are they talking about?
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    Originally Posted by jakobi78 View Post
    yates is right

    experience >>>>studies
    layne looks like its working for him, he is using both i guess.
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    Originally Posted by evansanity View Post
    lol yates is fuking moron


    you won your olympias because of gear+genetics you fuking twat....
    Doesn't that mean every champion did the same?

    Talent (genetics) > All

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    Originally Posted by evansanity View Post
    lol yates is fuking moron


    you won your olympias because of gear+genetics you fuking twat....
    Top tier BB genetics



    Jokes aside, I like both guys. but on paper Layne knows a hell of a lot about BBing.

    that said, they're both so stubborn this could go on a while
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    i love guys who take copious amounts of AAS and GH and slin and then think they can preach diet and physiology and whatever else. And their only reply is: my physique and competition accolades are my basis.

    idiots.
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    Context added to OP

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    but who was lift
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    cant respect layne after the olympia, he was pretty much begging for phil heaths cok the entire time
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    Originally Posted by jakobi78 View Post
    yates is right

    experience >>>>studies
    So, if you know this, then you can tell us exactly what the study is and what is wrong with it. Please do so.

    experience and studies - they can trump each other in different ways. you need skin in the game, and real experience, and science has to play catchup to a lot of methods discovered by trial and error. but experience builds up a great amount of superstition too - this is a stone cold fact. people confuse causation, they have no way of determining good rules of thumb from bad in a lot of cases - inescapable fact.

    If we went back in time with the scientific method to some ancient people, a study showing that goat sacrifices don't work before battle doesn't mean that the experienced warriors are right about it and the academics are wrong. (and of course, the academics can get confused too on different issues and their causations - lecturing birds how to fly comes to mind)

    "experience >>> studies" is a decent rule of thumb... it just ain't strictly true.
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    I don't understand why the bodybuilding community is so stubborn and stuck in their ways.
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    Originally Posted by Lamborg View Post
    You're in the middle of a battlefield, would you rather take a guy who enlisted in the army at 18, served 10 years and is a sergeant or a kid fresh outta west point, lieutenant?
    Awful argument

    The difference is bodybuilding isn't the front line of war

    Lets make the question more pertinent, after all bodybuilding is fundamentally science.

    You want to evaluate current evidence in muscle growth, you have somebody who has lifted weights for ten years, is genetically gifted, and uses performing enhancing drugs, or you have a natural pro bodybuilder/power lifter who has a PhD is nutrition
    but who was lift
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