Layne Norton vs Dorian Yates on Twitter

[Lintford]

Oh lawd



Edit- layne was discussing HIT vs high volume with some random and Dorian jumped in. No specific study was noted.

[JustDan17]

Dorian Yates can say what the fuk he wants, if he told me that the best diet consisted entirely of lightbulbs and the dead batteries from used electric toothbrushes I'd probably at least try it for a month

[SELCOUTH]

They need to get Layne on the Rogan podcast

[DmZy]

Layne Norton = rich spoiled kid that got a fancy degree at some fancy college.

Dorian Yates = street hooligan turned 6X mr olympia.

[Hyruliangoat]

Lol what a douche. its so hypocritical, the bbers use "science" when its what they want to hear or it goes along with what theyve been taught, but say no to science when its contradictory.

ie- science by hany rambod or kais trainer whatever his name is = science and its ok

science by layne = nope you are wrong dont care

[MacDaddy68]

whats this about?

[Lamborg]

Cite*

[wheelerx50]

They need to get Layne on the Rogan podcast

Layne wins hands down and this

[ace_gauntlit]

whats this about?

Science vs Broscience. what else

[Lamborg]

what are they argueing about anyway?

[Penile_Dementia]

Okay, so I don't know what the study is like, Layne was the most annoying Olympia commentator ever and Dorian didn't answer the question

there's no content here

[jakobi78]

yates is right

experience >>>>studies

[blue_kirby]

[rez88]

Dorian Yates can say what the fuk he wants, if he told me that the best diet consisted entirely of lightbulbs and the dead batteries from used electric toothbrushes I'd probably at least try it for a month

Then you're an idiot.

[hittman]

thanks for the backstory op you fukking dropkick

set up some context before making a thread

[evansanity]

lol yates is fuking moron


you won your olympias because of gear+genetics you fuking twat....

[Lamborg]

You're in the middle of a battlefield, would you rather take a guy who enlisted in the army at 18, served 10 years and is a sergeant or a kid fresh outta west point, lieutenant?

[StarksFX]

Strong misc debate

[BobbyGz]

You're in the middle of a battlefield, would you rather take a guy who enlisted in the army at 18, served 10 years and is a sergeant or a kid fresh outta west point, lieutenant?

Urine idiot.

[baraaa]

Layne's point makes more sense, but what study are they talking about?

[Gxp23]

yates is right

experience >>>>studies

layne looks like its working for him, he is using both i guess.

[TehHoneyBadger]

Do you understand what "context" means?

[joshwah]

lol yates is fuking moron


you won your olympias because of gear+genetics you fuking twat....

Doesn't that mean every champion did the same?

Talent (genetics) > All

Oh and being marketable.

[JustDan17]

lol yates is fuking moron


you won your olympias because of gear+genetics you fuking twat....

Top tier BB genetics



Jokes aside, I like both guys. but on paper Layne knows a hell of a lot about BBing.

that said, they're both so stubborn this could go on a while

[rhadam]

i love guys who take copious amounts of AAS and GH and slin and then think they can preach diet and physiology and whatever else. And their only reply is: my physique and competition accolades are my basis.

idiots.

[Lintford]

Context added to OP

Pls respond

[crosso]

cant respect layne after the olympia, he was pretty much begging for phil heaths cok the entire time

[Penile_Dementia]

yates is right

experience >>>>studies

So, if you know this, then you can tell us exactly what the study is and what is wrong with it. Please do so.

experience and studies - they can trump each other in different ways. you need skin in the game, and real experience, and science has to play catchup to a lot of methods discovered by trial and error. but experience builds up a great amount of superstition too - this is a stone cold fact. people confuse causation, they have no way of determining good rules of thumb from bad in a lot of cases - inescapable fact.

If we went back in time with the scientific method to some ancient people, a study showing that goat sacrifices don't work before battle doesn't mean that the experienced warriors are right about it and the academics are wrong. (and of course, the academics can get confused too on different issues and their causations - lecturing birds how to fly comes to mind)

"experience >>> studies" is a decent rule of thumb... it just ain't strictly true.

[SpartacusNYC]

I don't understand why the bodybuilding community is so stubborn and stuck in their ways.

[Lintford]

You're in the middle of a battlefield, would you rather take a guy who enlisted in the army at 18, served 10 years and is a sergeant or a kid fresh outta west point, lieutenant?

Awful argument

The difference is bodybuilding isn't the front line of war

Lets make the question more pertinent, after all bodybuilding is fundamentally science.

You want to evaluate current evidence in muscle growth, you have somebody who has lifted weights for ten years, is genetically gifted, and uses performing enhancing drugs, or you have a natural pro bodybuilder/power lifter who has a PhD is nutrition