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    11 lean caps and daa timing

    Yo supp section. I picked up 90 days worth of daa (3g daily) I plan on using this and ans fortitude to recover from a 8 week at 600mgs daily 12 lean cap cycle (11oxo)
    But I leave for vacation 56 days after I finish the 11 lean so I was thinking maybe I should run it like this
    Week 1-4 11 lean
    Week 4-8 11 lean and daa
    Week 8-12 daa and fortitude
    Week 12- till I leave daa
    11 lean at 600 shouldn't require any recovery but why not take daa.

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    Originally Posted by adoniscomplex View Post
    Yo supp section. I picked up 90 days worth of daa (3g daily) I plan on using this and ans fortitude to recover from a 8 week at 600mgs daily 12 lean cap cycle (11oxo)
    But I leave for vacation 56 days after I finish the 11 lean so I was thinking maybe I should run it like this
    Week 1-4 11 lean
    Week 4-8 11 lean and daa
    Week 8-12 daa and fortitude
    Week 12- till I leave daa
    11 lean at 600 shouldn't require any recovery but why not take daa.

    Any thoughts
    Seems fine to me. Maybe a half serving of cycle support daily as a precaution.
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    Originally Posted by gymrat53 View Post
    Seems fine to me. Maybe a half serving of cycle support daily as a precaution.
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    11 lean won't do much of anything. Even up to 1g/day. I'd save your money
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    Originally Posted by ajerone View Post
    11 lean won't do much of anything. Even up to 1g/day. I'd save your money
    obv compared to a strong pH or a real bike it doesn't do much but reviews seem great and combined with e/c , cal counting and hard training I'm pretty positive i'll have lots of ladies mirin my gains pool side in vegas MDW
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    I'd go with 11 Spray (11 Keto-Testoserone) if it is still out there to be had. Alternatively I'd go with a gram of 11-oxo.

    While I don't think 600mg will shut you down, I also don't think I would run it that way. I have not used it personally, but I have spoken to many that have (and also 11-spray) and they tend to prefer 11-spray, or at the very least suggest 11-oxo at 900mg-1000mg.

    That is just my opinion though. Do you have any experience with these products?
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    I personally loved the cortisol controlling properties of using 11oxo at that dosage when cutting with a diet that is very in check. It definitely has it's benefits in that area although as you have likely noticed, it isn't friendly on the wallet.
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    Originally Posted by haiz69 View Post
    I'd go with 11 Spray (11 Keto-Testoserone) if it is still out there to be had. Alternatively I'd go with a gram of 11-oxo.

    While I don't think 600mg will shut you down, I also don't think I would run it that way. I have not used it personally, but I have spoken to many that have (and also 11-spray) and they tend to prefer 11-spray, or at the very least suggest 11-oxo at 900mg-1000mg.

    That is just my opinion though. Do you have any experience with these products?
    I'm on day 12 of an 11oxo (600mgs daily) e/c cut. About a 200 cal deficit daily with out the supps
    I count cals and carb cycle plus keep it pretty damn ``clean``
    I'm down half an inch.
    I added DAA today and ill keep taking the daa for 100 days which will end my cut that day too as I'll be in Vegas for MDW
    My goal for the 11oxo is really just to keep my muscle on and strength up I don't expect to gain any muscle while cutting but if I can drop 5% bf while keeping all my lifts the same I'll be stoked
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    Originally Posted by adoniscomplex View Post
    I'm on day 12 of an 11oxo (600mgs daily) e/c cut. About a 200 cal deficit daily with out the supps
    I count cals and carb cycle plus keep it pretty damn ``clean``
    I'm down half an inch.
    I added DAA today and ill keep taking the daa for 100 days which will end my cut that day too as I'll be in Vegas for MDW
    My goal for the 11oxo is really just to keep my muscle on and strength up I don't expect to gain any muscle while cutting but if I can drop 5% bf while keeping all my lifts the same I'll be stoked
    I do think the 11-oxo will be good for your goal at that dosage, especially if you don't necessarily expect to add any muscle mass. It should certainly help with maintenance.

    As for the DAA, if using it for 100 days I would highly suggest adding an AI and Prolactin Control. After 4 weeks I'd add an AI and at 6-8 I'd definitely add Prolactin help. I would go with something like Triazole if I were you vs. Fortitude, as I haven't seen bloods on Fortitude and how well it controls Estrogen. Also, I would look into Macuna/L-Dopa for Prolactin, along with P5P maybe if you plan to run it for 100 days.
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