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Why is no one talking about Evan for the Olympia
I think this coming Olympia is going to be just crazy interesting. We have obviously the next chapter in the Phil and Kai rivalry, but also we Jay and Vitor are coming back, Shawn is getting help from Ronnie now and Dexter has looked spectacular recently. But why is no one talking about Evan as a serious contender. I know he is still young, but I feel like he has great balance, size and he is only getting better. I feel like if he gains more size and comes in with better conditioning, he will be a real threat. I know everyone is excited to see Ced, but Ced is a lot older than Evan, so in my mind he has more time to improve and gain size. I just wish he got more props for being where he is so young and especially for his potential.
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I like Evan but his chest and midsection IMO will always be there reason he never wins an O, everything else is right on track or there.
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In my opinion Evan isn't a serious contender for the Mr. Olympia . He has too many things he needs to bring up at this point in his career. Good bodybuilder, but he isn't Mr. Olympia material right now.
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Originally Posted by Iceman1981
In my opinion Evan isn't a serious contender for the Mr. Olympia . He has too many things he needs to bring up at this point in his career. Good bodybuilder, but he isn't Mr. Olympia material right now.
Pretty much. His lats especially would need to come WAY up to even be in contention.
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Umm because there are 7 more months and he almost made no improvements since that Flex Pro win
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Evan one day could be great, but right now he is seriously lacking a chest and back. He's at least 2-3 years away from a top 3 finish and I'll say it now - I don't think he'll ever get a top 3 finish with the other people that are up and coming.
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He hasn't done much with his physique, like Wolf.
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Originally Posted by BlackNumero
He hasn't done much with his physique, like Wolf.
This, World #3 Dennis Wolf has competeted so many times last year and with all his progress swept Roden aside. Hoping Wolf will be at least top 3 this year.
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So you believe a pro bodybuilder who puts on muscle and improves his conditioning will do well?
What insight! You should write for flex........
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Simply because he isnt a contender. Hes nowhere near. Hed have to have a Dorian 92-93 transformation just to get top 5
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Originally Posted by ROMMYromboid
This, World #3 Dennis Wolf has competeted so many times last year and with all his progress swept Roden aside. Hoping Wolf will be at least top 3 this year.
With Kai, Phil, Rhoden, Cedric, Dex and Branch competing and with Vic and Jay returning Wolf will be lucky if he ever gets top six again. He's done nothing but regress ever since 2007.
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Originally Posted by Larfleeze
With Kai, Phil, Rhoden, Cedric, Dex and Branch competing and with Vic and Jay returning Wolf will be lucky if he ever gets top six again. He's done nothing but regress ever since 2007.
Stacked O, dam. Very curious to see how branch will place and how his physique will look like after a year of training.
I wouldn't call it lucky, he already proved that he could beat most of those guys, after 07.
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Originally Posted by Unbiasedfan
Stacked O, dam. Very curious to see how branch will place and how his physique will look like after a year of training.
I wouldn't call it lucky, he already proved that he could beat most of those guys, after 07.
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't Rhoden the only one he's actually beaten out of that list? (and that win has an asterisk next to it..)
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Originally Posted by DOC
I like Evan but his chest and midsection IMO will always be there reason he never wins an O, everything else is right on track or there.
Ya Evan is a good bodybuilder, but he just doesn't have that structure I can see as Mr. Olympia. In my eyes it isn't something that can be improved with better conditioning or more muscle either.. so I always wrote him off as a guy who will win some shows but not the big event. Elite muscle building genes for sure though..
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Originally Posted by Larfleeze
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't Rhoden the only one he's actually beaten out of that list? (and that win has an asterisk next to it..)
He never beat jay and heath. Many though he beat branch at the 12 AC. He never competed against ced. Otherwise, he beat them.
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Originally Posted by Unbiasedfan
He never beat jay and heath. Many though he beat branch at the 12 AC. He never competed against ced. Otherwise, he beat them.
are you talking about wolf?
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Originally Posted by SammyJr
are you talking about wolf?
yes
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Originally Posted by Unbiasedfan
i think larfleeze was talking about rhoden
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Originally Posted by SammyJr
i think larfleeze was talking about rhoden
He was saying rhoden was the only one that wolf beat out of the names he said.
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Originally Posted by Gorky88
Umm because there are 7 more months and he almost made no improvements since that Flex Pro win
this. he's my second fav bodybuilder but he needs to switch something up (or maybe he simply peaked) because his improvement form show to show stalled after that Flex Pro win. i remember discussing after the O
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Pretty much everyone agrees that he has the potential, but isn't ready, so here is my question. Why doesn't he realize it? Why not compete in the Arnold, and work on getting ready for the O in 2-3 years?
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Originally Posted by Unbiasedfan
He was saying rhoden was the only one that wolf beat out of the names he said.
oh ok my bad. i have a headache lol i shouldn't be thinking right now
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When did he beat Dexter, Vic and Kai?
And yeah, I had Wolf winning the 12 AC too. Judges obviously didn't see it that way though..
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Originally Posted by Unbiasedfan
I wouldn't call it lucky, he already proved that he could beat most of those guys, after 07.
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Originally Posted by bartosh
this. he's my second fav bodybuilder but he needs to switch something up (or maybe he simply peaked) because his improvement form show to show stalled after that Flex Pro win. i remember discussing after the O
Evan made some great improvements to his back from the 2011 arnold to 2012. The problem is that Evan hasn't been able to peak well for a show. Hes working with chris aceto this year, so things can only go up for him.
Originally Posted by Larfleeze
When did he beat Dexter, Vic and Kai?
And yeah, I had Wolf winning the 12 AC too. Judges obviously didn't see it that way though..
He beat dexter in 2011 a few times and at the 2012 arnold because dexter wasn't in shape. He beat victor twice at the 2010 O because victor was out of shape and at the 2011 arnold because he had a gut from working with oscar. Kai also lost to him at the 2010 O because of oscar's prep. Oh, but not to take anything away from wolf he was fantastic at those shows. Heres an amazing picture of his super wide lat spread at the 2010 olympia
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Originally Posted by FAN0FdaSport
He beat dexter in 2011 a few times and at the 2012 arnold because dexter wasn't in shape. He beat victor twice at the 2010 O because victor was out of shape and at the 2011 arnold because he had a gut from working with oscar. Kai also lost to him at the 2010 O because of oscar's prep. Oh, but not to take anything away from wolf he was fantastic at those shows. Heres an amazing picture of his super wide lat spread at the 2010 olympia
I don't even remember Dex being at the 12 AC..really must have looked bad
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Originally Posted by Larfleeze
I don't even remember Dex being at the 12 AC..really must have looked bad
Dex never looks bad, but he does have a tendency to get lost in the lineup.
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Evan's physique should never be Mr O worthy.. possible AC contender yes, but never a Mr O title..
Cedric and Flexatron are the future.. particularly Cedric because he is young.. I don't see anyone else having the lines, structure or muscle bellies to pull off a Mr O worthy physique other then these two guys.. (apart from Phil/Kai of course)
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Originally Posted by Larfleeze
With Kai, Phil, Rhoden, Cedric, Dex and Branch competing and with Vic and Jay returning Wolf will be lucky if he ever gets top six again. He's done nothing but regress ever since 2007.
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