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    i need help with a new pre-workout pump "no stims or caffine"

    im lookin for something good for a pump and good energy push..ive tried all kinds of pre's like NO,jacked,1MR,superpump...but i cant handle stims or something with caffiene really...ive heard some say i think it is L-arganine pills or something like that is good...id prefer pill for too, but something that works!! id tried yok3d once and it did nothing
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    L-arginine has been proven to be ineffective at increasing vasodilation (pumps).

    If you can wait a few weeks for it to hit shelves, I think BodyForge 2.0 would be exactly what you're looking for as the preliminary feedback is nothing short of exceptional.

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    Originally Posted by TNfarmBoy View Post
    im lookin for something good for a pump and good energy push..ive tried all kinds of pre's like NO,jacked,1MR,superpump...but i cant handle stims or something with caffiene really...ive heard some say i think it is L-arganine pills or something like that is good...id prefer pill for too, but something that works!! id tried yok3d once and it did nothing
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    Originally Posted by BogusForLife View Post
    L-arginine has been proven to be ineffective at increasing vasodilation (pumps).

    If you can wait a few weeks for it to hit shelves, I think BodyForge 2.0 would be exactly what you're looking for as the preliminary feedback is nothing short of exceptional.

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    Body Octane and Hemavol are fantastic for this.

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    Originally Posted by llahhsoj View Post
    i just ordered some of this..gna give it a try i guess
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    Originally Posted by BogusForLife View Post
    L-arginine has been proven to be ineffective at increasing vasodilation (pumps).

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    This, once this hits the store in mid-february its gonna be huge.

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    Hemavol has done great for me i cant really handle stims either or when i need a break i go to hemavol, great supplement
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    Hah, yeah. I will admit that BodyForge 2.0 looks pretty good other than the fact it's only 15 full servings.
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    I am in the same boat as you OP. Been looking for one as I need some energy after a long day at work. I came across Vega sport pre-workout and hemavol. Seems like hemavol is the cheaper option, but vega sport pre-workout is all plant based. Never tried either of them, but I think I might order some hemavol.
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    Originally Posted by MusclePack View Post
    I am in the same boat as you OP. Been looking for one as I need some energy after a long day at work. I came across Vega sport pre-workout and hemavol. Seems like hemavol is the cheaper option, but vega sport pre-workout is all plant based. Never tried either of them, but I think I might order some hemavol.
    Hemavol is always a good choice. I've noticed a lot of benefits in terms of endurance and vasodilation. The Lemon Drop flavor is absolutely delicious, too
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