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    need to lose 150 pounds

    I need to lose 150 pounds weigh 435 now does anyone have suggestions as to what to take
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    Take nothing. Eat 1800 cal each day and exercise.
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    Originally Posted by PopeGregorius View Post
    Take nothing. Eat 1800 cal each day and exercise.
    If the OP weighs 435lbs it would seem that he eats a huge amount of calories each day. Would it really be healty to drop it from something like 5000cal to 1800 straight away? (serious question)

    Either way, the most important thing here OP is that you burn more calories than you consume. Reducing the amount of calories you consume would be a good start. If you can post what you eat on an average day I'm sure we can suggest some alternatives for some of the foods. For example if you drink Coke, replace it with water. Easy


    Edit: and +1 to PopeGregorius, there is no need to take anything. If you make even some subtle changes to your diet and do some cardio you will notice a difference very quickly.
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    1. Get rid of your misconceptions
    2. Calculate your calories and macros
    3. Eat about 20% less calories than you burn each day while still meeting minimum protein and fat. Get the remainder of cals from carbs.
    4. Buy a kitchen scale and weigh everything that you eat.
    5. Count calories using a site like MyFitnessPal. Here's how to count properly.
    6. Lift heavy weights to preserve muscle mass, on a program like Starting Strength. Why not your own routine? Read this.
    7. If nothing happens after 3 weeks, reexamine calculations, and eat less.

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    Watch fasting twins on YouTube. You need to lose your obsession with food.

    Calories per day should be 3000 to 3500 per day. Use myfitnesspal.

    Once you hit 300lbs drop calories to 2000 to 2500.

    Workout 3 to 4 times per week. Start with 15 mins eleptical and then full body resistance training to hit all muscle groups. Do 3 exercises per muscle group. 5 sets of 5 reps. Add weight to each second set. Last set heaviest one of them all.
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    Originally Posted by mpsmith81 View Post
    I need to lose 150 pounds weigh 435 now does anyone have suggestions as to what to take
    Forget taking anything. Address the issue, diet. You eat way too much. Don't go straight down to 1800 as somebody else suggested. I would say start tracking properly (that means weighing your food). First step is to eat normally for a week, track everything to get an estimate of where you are now, take an average. Once you have that number. Decide what you want to do. Take off 500 calories to lose 1lb a week, 1000 for 2lbs etc. etc.


    Originally Posted by Askie View Post
    Watch fasting twins on YouTube. You need to lose your obsession with food.
    OP, as entertaining as Keith and Kevin are, don't take nutritional advice from them.
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    OP, as entertaining as Keith and Kevin are, don't take nutritional advice from them.[/QUOTE]

    Let the haters hate.

    Try IF before you knock it.
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    Originally Posted by Askie View Post
    Let the haters hate.

    Try IF before you knock it.
    I do IF...
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    too much confusing info, OP doesn't know what IF is and he doesn't need to at this point.

    OP, all you have to do is take control of the calories you take in every day. read the sticky thread on calculating calories. thats it. you don't need to take anything, or do anything more advanced than that. just count calories, be consistent, have patience.

    If he wants to further research IF thats fine, if he figures out 2 meals a day works for him thats great (its what I do too), because I truly believe thats the easiest way to structure your life for the long term, but he just needs to count calories at this point. 2 meals a day, 10 meals a day, who gives a chit.
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    Originally Posted by matman1813 View Post
    I do IF...
    So what's the problem then.

    My suggestion was to watch their videos about IF. Losing 3-4 lbs a week from what I learnt.

    The very basics is to eat clean and caloric deficit.
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    There has been some good advice, but instead of just counting calories you have to make sure you're consuming the RIGHT KIND of calories. I always tell clients if you can't grow it, pick it, or kill it, don't eat it. From there you can calculate the calories but if you eat fewer calories from crap food you're still eating crap food and will be stuck.

    Low intensity exercise is enough for now. You don't want to kill yourself and drop out early. Keep it simple, find a solid plan (there's plenty available here), and keep in mind you're just starting out on this journey. Finding a plan you can stick with is the most important aspect here. Feel free to PM me if you need any help along the way
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    Originally Posted by Askie View Post
    OP, as entertaining as Keith and Kevin are, don't take nutritional advice from them.
    Let the haters hate.

    Try IF before you knock it.[/QUOTE]

    IF is just that....IF, it does nothing magical for weight loss.
    There is always someone less fortunate, with real hunger, with real adversity, who made something of themselves. What is your excuse?
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    Originally Posted by Askie View Post
    So what's the problem then.

    My suggestion was to watch their videos about IF. Losing 3-4 lbs a week from what I learnt.

    The very basics is to eat clean and caloric deficit.
    The caloric deficit is the reason you lost weight, nothing to do with IF.

    Eating clean? What is that? You cannot even possibly define clean, that is a challenge by the way.Go ahead, define eating clean.
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    Originally Posted by mpsmith81 View Post
    suggestions as to what to take
    first mistake there it's no magical pill oh supplement the it's going to make you loss weigh it's a fight between calories in and out follow what they guys are saying and fix your diet.. eat less, move more, sleep , repeat....
    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?p=655657063&posted=1#post655657063 = first cut back in 2010

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    OP, eat whatever you want, don't think about going to the gym for 6 months, and just focus on accurately tracking calories (you need to weigh your food and use an app to track) and eating between 2000 and 2500 each day.

    I was in your exact position almost a year ago and now I'm south of 250; I was able to accomplish through calorie control and, eventually, heavy lifting.
    Started 2012 at over 410lbs (that was as high as my scale went) and I ended the year at 260lbs.

    Still going strong while eating whatever I want - whenever I want; I just keep it to under 2000 calories a day.

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    i dont know what op is

    i eat about 3000 calories a day my diet is very clean no sugar i use my fitness pal now i think my diet is good was just thinking about doing like a fat loss stack
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    Originally Posted by mpsmith81 View Post
    i dont know what op is

    i eat about 3000 calories a day my diet is very clean no sugar i use my fitness pal now i think my diet is good was just thinking about doing like a fat loss stack
    OP stands for 'original poster'. i.e. You.

    You don't need any supplements.
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    Originally Posted by PopeGregorius View Post
    Take nothing. Eat 1800 cal each day and exercise.
    Don't do this. You should start out by eating around 3500 a day and you will see changes in time.
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    The caloric deficit is the reason you lost weight, nothing to do with IF.

    Eating clean? What is that? You cannot even possibly define clean, that is a challenge by the way.Go ahead, define eating clean.
    If you don't know what eating clean means then you don't belong on BB. I've got better things to do than get into petty arguments.

    If you understand weight loss then obviously caloric deficit is the main key. IF just makes life simple and does actually speed up weight loss.

    This would be the ideal challenge. Eat the same calories every day for two weeks and measure weight loss. Then do exactly the same but IF. Weight loss will be more on IF guaranteed.

    Hey but this is all just advice do whatever the fu##^&##$^$$ck u wanna do
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    Originally Posted by Askie View Post
    If you don't know what eating clean means then you don't belong on BB. I've got better things to do than get into petty arguments.
    No, you just can't define it because there is absolutely no reasonable, rational definition.

    Originally Posted by Askie View Post
    If you understand weight loss then obviously caloric deficit is the main key. IF just makes life simple and does actually speed up weight loss.
    No, it doesn't speed up weight loss, if you don't understand that you don't belong on BB.

    Originally Posted by Askie View Post
    This would be the ideal challenge. Eat the same calories every day for two weeks and measure weight loss. Then do exactly the same but IF. Weight loss will be more on IF guaranteed.
    Given weight loss is non-linear, they might. But there is an equal chance they might not.

    Originally Posted by Askie View Post
    Hey but this is all just advice do whatever the fu##^&##$^$$ck u wanna do
    Stop quoting/taking nutrition advice from the Hodge twins.
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    Originally Posted by PopeGregorius View Post
    Take nothing. Eat 1800 cal each day and exercise.
    why would someone of such a high bodyweight need to suddenly eat so little calories?
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    Originally Posted by Askie View Post
    If you don't know what eating clean means then you don't belong on BB. I've got better things to do than get into petty arguments.

    If you understand weight loss then obviously caloric deficit is the main key. IF just makes life simple and does actually speed up weight loss.

    This would be the ideal challenge. Eat the same calories every day for two weeks and measure weight loss. Then do exactly the same but IF. Weight loss will be more on IF guaranteed.

    Hey but this is all just advice do whatever the fu##^&##$^$$ck u wanna do
    I though this had been cleared up a long time ago? As long as you hit your macros you can eat anything you want.
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    I though this had been cleared up a long time ago? As long as you hit your macros you can eat anything you want.
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    what aremacros
    Macros = macronutrients = Protein, fat and carbs. They are what make up calories.

    1g of fat = 9 calories
    1g of protein = 4 calories
    1g of carbohydrate = 4 calories
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    Ok i am not familiar with that
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    Find then I will make this really simple:

    - Drop your calorie intake to 3kcals a day.
    - Eat 200g of protein a day
    - Get on a full body split 3x a week workout routine
    - Do some cardio on the off days of the routine.
    - After 6 months of this drop the cals to 2.5k and then after another 6 months drop the cals again to 2k until you get to your desired weight.
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    Originally Posted by mpsmith81 View Post
    i dont know what op is

    i eat about 3000 calories a day my diet is very clean no sugar i use my fitness pal now i think my diet is good was just thinking about doing like a fat loss stack
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    Don't do this. You should start out by eating around 3500 a day and you will see changes in time.
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    Find then I will make this really simple:
    - Drop your calorie intake to 3kcals a day.



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    Originally Posted by Vaylor View Post
    Find then I will make this really simple:

    - Drop your calorie intake to 3kcals a day.
    - Eat 200g of protein a day
    - Get on a full body split 3x a week workout routine
    - Do some cardio on the off days of the routine.
    - After 6 months of this drop the cals to 2.5k and then after another 6 months drop the cals again to 2k until you get to your desired weight.
    I'm sorry but at 435lbs I would not recommend doing any full body splits.
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