Bull**** bodybuilding - by Dave Pulcinella

[Kimhwan92]

If self seclusion is a requirement to be a tru natorall bodidilder, then I'll remain as a natorall body shaper.

[WonderPug]

I think they're trying to follow the Jason Genova model, as they see his relative success and the clear similarities between David and Jason.

The problem is that Mike is no Andrew and it's Andrew who is making Jason popular.

[Geoloop]

If self seclusion is a requirement to be a tru natorall bodidilder, then I'll remain as a natorall body shaper.

Analphabetism isn't a requirement, but you surely meet that one.

[Naeem11]

Mike -- I hope you realize that this all sounds like it's written by someone in a rage of sorts.

Grandmaster Dark Lord of Almighty and Wrathful Peace of Vengeful Darkness of Holy and Unholy Apocalypse has spoken.

In.

Rep me sloot.

Jk no negs.



EDIT: K 100% srs, the none-sense that Dave speaks is the same none-sense I used to believe which led to an obsessive and unhealthy lifestyle of orthorexia, borderline anorexia, and eventually transitioned into binge-eating. My mental state was being battered as well as my physical state. I guess it would be understandable that someone who truly thought that he or she had to...."Sacrifice to win"....however close-minded as it seems....would be so opposed and unwilling to admit to what we know now to be true.

[Kimhwan92]

Analphabetism isn't a requirement, but you surely meet that one.

tru vegan natoral bodibilder

[WonderPug]

And finally, don't presume to tell me what I should and shouldn't have to do within the context of MY sport, a world you've never stepped foot in and about which you know literally nothing. You're in MY world whenever you talk about "bodybuilding". Act accordingly and show some respect. You're in the presence of someone who can do things you cannot and never will.

[greekmanman]

lol

[vitornoob]

lol

[mike pulcinella]

That's only half of the picture. Here's the full pic...20 weeks later.



The story of that transformation is told on Raising the Bar 3.

[mike pulcinella]

tru vegan natoral bodibilder

Why aren't you skeptical about this?

Have this guy contact me.

[mike pulcinella]

cant wait to get more shredded than dave has ever been prepping myself at 19 years old eating ice cream every single day

but doesnt count because im not a real bodybuilder then

Make a documentary. Or become a part of mine. I am working on RTB4 and looking for people from the IIFYM world to be a part of it.

Anyone who would like to talk about or show me how they eat and train should PM me your contact info. I am looking to present both sides of this argument fairly.

[ErickStevens]

That's only half of the picture. Here's the full pic...20 weeks later.



The story of that transformation is told on Raising the Bar 3.

[DaBubzy]

That's only half of the picture. Here's the full pic...20 weeks later.



The story of that transformation is told on Raising the Bar 3.

do tell us how his regimen applies to anyone on this board besides maybe max.marek

[lee__d]

That's only half of the picture. Here's the full pic...20 weeks later.



The story of that transformation is told on Raising the Bar 3.

dat dere frequent eating is 100% responsible.

[Valenzuelatech]

I used to be extremely regimented with my diet, just how the OP described it. These days I just follow IIFYM and this 1950's instructional video on good eating habits:



Cliffs of video:
-Don't eat so fast or you'll get a stomach ache
-Enjoy your food

[WonderPug]

That's only half of the picture. Here's the full pic...20 weeks later.

If your brother would simply learn the basics about nutrition, he could look great all year round, like many on this forum, and he wouldn't need all those "special" supplements to compensation for his poor dietary habits when preparing for a bodybuilding show.

[vitornoob]

That's only half of the picture. Here's the full pic...20 weeks later.



The story of that transformation is told on Raising the Bar 3.

[keramon02]

If your brother would simply learn the basics about nutrition, he could look great all year round, like many on this forum, and he wouldn't need all those "special" supplements to compensation for his poor dietary habits when preparing for a bodybuilding show.

While I get the sentiment behind this, I don't think eating ice cream will eliminate the need to "supplement" while prepping for a show.

[WonderPug]

While I get the sentiment behind this, I don't think eating ice cream will eliminate the need to "supplement" while prepping for a show.

What type of absurd straw man argument is that?

Let me make this very simple for you: someone who knows how to train properly and understands nutrition, and puts that knowledge to work, can look great year round.

[keramon02]

What type of absurd straw man argument is that?

Let me make this very simple for you: someone who knows how to train properly and understands nutrition, and puts that knowledge to work, can look great year round.

And? That still doesn't explain the connection between juice and nutrition.

He's not using to compensate for a ****y diet, he's eating a diet suitable for him in those conditions (in addition to other stuff he may not need to do).

Keeping lean as a natty and a non natty are too completely different things.

[MITCHAPAL00ZA]

Dave's triceps are very unfortunate :/

[mike pulcinella]

If your brother would simply learn the basics about nutrition, he could look great all year round, like many on this forum, and he wouldn't need all those "special" supplements to compensation for his poor dietary habits when preparing for a bodybuilding show.

He didn't want to look good all year round. He wanted to win national level bodybuilding shows, which he did.

[WonderPug]

He didn't want to look good all year round.

Mission accomplished.

For those that do want to look good year round, proper nutrition and training will do the trick.

He wanted to win national level bodybuilding shows...

Please list all the supplements, including the "special" supplements, that he took.

[Hamzzza]

Please list all the supplements, including the "special" supplements, that he took.

[mike pulcinella]

Mission accomplished.


Please list all the supplements, including the "special" supplements, that he took.

Why do you think that won't happen?

[mike pulcinella]

Mission accomplished.

For those that do want to look good year round, proper nutrition and training will do the trick.

Competitive bodybuilding is about WINNING, not "looking good year round". Looking good year round is called "being fit".

[WonderPug]

Please list all the supplements, including the "special" supplements, that he took.

Why do you think that won't happen?

Prove me wrong: talk about those "special" supplements honestly and do that right in this thread. We're all waiting.

Competitive bodybuilding is about WINNING, not "looking good year round". Looking good year round is called "being fit".

So you're saying if you want to look like a professional bodybuilder year round, like pbatemen2, for example, then you're only "fit", but if you want to look like your brother during the off season, then and only then are you a "competitive bodybuilder".

According to Milke, this is a competitive bodybuilder





According to Milke, this guy is just "fit":



Wow. Just wow.

[alexanderberg]

If you're calling yourself a "bodybuilder", and you're not willing to a few simple things like have a grocery shopping day, eat certain foods, eat something every few hours, follow a list of foods called a "diet", then maybe you need to find another sport.

I don't even know how to respond to this. Just no. I don't need to have a "grocery shopping day" and that's not a "simple" thing.

Real Bodybuilders have no problem doing any of these things, and if you were to put dog **** on that list of foods called a "diet", a real bodybuilder would figure out a way to eat it.

Real bodybuilder? What's a fake bodybuilder? Aware me.

If you can't do these things, it's ok. You're just not a real bodybuilder, that's all. Call yourself a "recreational body shaper", or "fitness enthusiast". Just stop calling yourself a bodybuilder.

I am a builder of my body, ergo I am a bodybuilder. What's your point?

And if you're not willing to do these things, or if they're too uncomfortable for you, that doesn't mean you need to scramble to find scientific research to validate your behavior and then call real Bodybuilders "bull****" because they ARE willing to do these things. It's ok, just don't do them.

Ian McCarthy and "NNB'ers" don't try to validate their behavior through biased research, they create templates for optimal behavior on the conclusions of peer research. Are you stupid?

And it really doesn't matter if eating every 2 hours raises metabolism or not, does it? Because even if we knew it was the premier way to increase BMR, you still couldn't do it, so lets give that a rest.

And yet you had an hour-long discussion about it.

I'm glad bodybuilding is difficult. It's the reason I chose it in the first place. It's incredibly challenging and therefore incredibly rewarding. If everyone could do it, it wouldn't be as special to me.

Bodybuilding is not difficult. You - unnecessarily - make it difficult.

And finally, don't presume to tell me what I should and shouldn't have to do within the context of MY sport, a world you've never stepped foot in and about which you know literally nothing. You're in MY world whenever you talk about "bodybuilding". Act accordingly and show some respect. You're in the presence of someone who can do things you cannot and never will.

There's a difference between experience and factuality. Just because someone hasn't been a competitive bodybuilder, it doesn't mean that their claims are false and that they should be disregarded.


Mike, your brother is truly a *******.

[PBateman2]

LMAO.....nonsense.

[Kimhwan92]

So, bodybuilding is about:

>fluctuating an individual's body fat percentage between one extreme end to another.

>disregarding health/fitness.


ok.