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    Don't belong in the man misc, but I'd appreciate answers

    I hit someone lightly ( fender bender ) have to appear in court in about three weeks time for it. Odds of getting liscense suspended? And for how long? I'm 16 and in Ohio
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    Originally Posted by eomrat View Post
    Unless you were driving impaired, you will not get suspended.

    That is the least of your worries. Your insurance premiums just doubled. Be careful out there Stew. Little things often have big consequences.
    I understand the insurance of course. I have to appear in court, and I know Ohio likes to suspend em. I got 2 friends who've hit people and lost theirs, so I'm not sure.
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    Are you familiar with your state's rules? http://www.bmv.ohio.gov/graduated_dl_teen_laws.stm#tog Looks like you'll be okay. Were you issued any tickets, like running a stop sign or light? Might change things. Like eomrat says, insurance is a bitch. Be careful out there.

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    Moving citation. Forget what it was called (4 letters ) pretty much my adequate stopping distance
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    I never heard of anyone losing their license for having an accident. Unless you were dong something legal, an accident is just that an accident.

    But because you hit him in the back (almost always your fault) your insurance will go up.
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    Originally Posted by bodyhard View Post
    I never heard of anyone losing their license for having an accident. Unless you were dong something legal, an accident is just that an accident.

    But because you hit him in the back (almost always your fault) your insurance will go up.
    Couldn't the citation get it suspended since I'm young?
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    Originally Posted by BigStewTheJew View Post
    Couldn't the citation get it suspended since I'm young?
    No, we all make mistakes, just learn from them and Don't do it again. If you have it happen twice in a short period of time, then you might kiss your license good bye for a while.
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    Originally Posted by BigStewTheJew View Post
    Couldn't the citation get it suspended since I'm young?
    If you have some discretionary $$ and you really need to drive, you may want to talk to a lawyer. Cost nothin' in most instances for a consultation. Other than that, dress nicely, tuck in yer shirt... and be super polite to the judge.

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    the mere fact that he has to appear in court, for a small fender bender, tells you, that YES, it is possible in his state, that they might consider that a violation of new driver "parole"....

    if you do have it suspended, take it as a easy way out life lesson, and stop tailgating from now, which is what you were probably doing.
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    Originally Posted by BigStewTheJew View Post
    Couldn't the citation get it suspended since I'm young?

    If others have had thiers suspended, you could too. Be smart in court, that will help.
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    A friend I know who had a fender bender told me that before even seeing the judge they suspended everyone's liscense who had a citation before the age of 16 and a half
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    Court appearance for a fender bender??...seems pretty harsh. I had a minor fender bender a long time ago and my wife rear ended someone and totalled her car several years back but there was never a court appearance. The officer wrote out the tickets and we filed our insurance claims and that was the end of it. This is in FL, must be different in other states or maybe I'm just old and things have changed since then, lol
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    Control what you can control:

    Your attitude in court, including dress. Don't be a punk. Adults typically hate punk kids and I can't imagine a judge who is subjected to them multiple times per day is going to be forgiving at all. You don't have to wear a suit but show respect of the court in every way, even if the judge turns out to be a complete dip****.

    Take any criticisms or comments graciously if they are provided. Don't lie, twist, or exaggerate anything. Be honest and fess up to where you made mistakes if asked. Don't run your mouth and do not bull**** the judge.

    Don't worry about what you can't control:

    Having to appear in court. If that's the rule that's the rule.
    Whether or not they suspend your license. That's going to be what it's going to be. Best you can do is stack the odds in your favor.
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    Originally Posted by JOHN GARGANI View Post
    the mere fact that he has to appear in court, for a small fender bender, tells you, that YES, it is possible in his state, that they might consider that a violation of new driver "parole"....

    if you do have it suspended, take it as a easy way out life lesson, and stop tailgating from now, which is what you were probably doing.
    Kid had just gotton his car and was screwing around with it for the last 300 yards by accelearting and slamming on breaks and chit. He accelerated and stomped break super fast, and I just didn't stop in time.


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    With texting and driving being a big issue coupled with your age, they probably want to put you in front of a judge and find out if you were being a responsible driver or if you were screwin around. Could be part of a scare tactic too, you know "show em how serious it can be so they shape up". When I was younger I had to go to court for a speeding ticket, it was mostly the judge just wanted to tell me how driving is a privilege not a right, and that that privilege can be taken away if its abused.

    As others said, if you are really concerned, get a lawyer. Remember dress nicely, be on time, be honest when asked a question, don't go into details that weren't asked for, and be respectful..yes and no answers should be "yes sir/ma'am" and "no sir/ma'am". Remember body language can speak volumes too, so stand up straight, pay attention to what is being said, look the judge in the eye but don't stare him/her down, don't act or look bored and never roll your eyes. Being polite and respectful can go a long way and could be the determining factor whether you get a fine and/or driving school time or lose your license.
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    Originally Posted by bmccurdy View Post
    With texting and driving being a big issue coupled with your age, they probably want to put you in front of a judge and find out if you were being a responsible driver or if you were screwin around. Could be part of a scare tactic too, you know "show em how serious it can be so they shape up". When I was younger I had to go to court for a speeding ticket, it was mostly the judge just wanted to tell me how driving is a privilege not a right, and that that privilege can be taken away if its abused.

    As others said, if you are really concerned, get a lawyer. Remember dress nicely, be on time, be honest when asked a question, don't go into details that weren't asked for, and be respectful..yes and no answers should be "yes sir/ma'am" and "no sir/ma'am". Remember body language can speak volumes too, so stand up straight, pay attention to what is being said, look the judge in the eye but don't stare him/her down, don't act or look bored and never roll your eyes. Being polite and respectful can go a long way and could be the determining factor whether you get a fine and/or driving school time or lose your license.
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    OP, you do not need a lawyer.
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    Will also point out that the cop said I might get lucky and if I do get a suspension, they might be light with it because of living in an only-parent home, they might feel I need my license more. Only problem is people told me that if your under 16 and a half you get 3-6 months before even facing the judge, so I don't know how'd he know that.
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    Control what you can control:

    Your attitude in court, including dress. Don't be a punk. Adults typically hate punk kids and I can't imagine a judge who is subjected to them multiple times per day is going to be forgiving at all. You don't have to wear a suit but show respect of the court in every way, even if the judge turns out to be a complete dip****.
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    Originally Posted by mslman71 View Post
    Control what you can control:

    Your attitude in court, including dress. Don't be a punk. Adults typically hate punk kids and I can't imagine a judge who is subjected to them multiple times per day is going to be forgiving at all. You don't have to wear a suit but show respect of the court in every way, even if the judge turns out to be a complete dip****.

    Take any criticisms or comments graciously if they are provided. Don't lie, twist, or exaggerate anything. Be honest and fess up to where you made mistakes if asked. Don't run your mouth and do not bull**** the judge.

    Don't worry about what you can't control:

    Having to appear in court. If that's the rule that's the rule.
    Whether or not they suspend your license. That's going to be what it's going to be. Best you can do is stack the odds in your favor.
    ^^
    This is some great advice. Present yourself in the best possible manner . . . respectful (yes, your honor--no, your honor) and honest and take responsibility. Judges hear excuses all day long. Taking responsibility can go a long way. I had a court appearance in downtown Denver once for an accident--not a great neighborhood. Driving record was clean to that point, but every single person ahead of me had an excuse for why they weren't responsible for why they were there. When I stood up, the judge asked me what happened and I told him. "Stupid mistake on my part--thought I saw one thing but turned out to be incorrect, never should have happened, etc." He said he appreciated the honesty and all but dismissed the charges (took it down to 1 point and no fine).

    So not sure what the law is where you are or what might happen. But act like a kid with a good head on your shoulders and be polite/respectful/honest and you'll probably stand a better chance of the lesser or any punishments at the court's discretion.

    Good luck! Tough and expensive lessons to learn, but move on from it as best as you can.
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    Originally Posted by BigStewTheJew View Post
    Kid had just gotton his car and was screwing around with it for the last 300 yards by accelearting and slamming on breaks and chit. He accelerated and stomped break super fast, and I just didn't stop in time.
    You must have just gotten your license too, given your age. One word of advice from an old coot: give lots of space to the idiots and jackasses. You knew he was accelerating and slamming on the brakes - that should have been a warning to hang back. Don't let your macho get in the way.

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