This guys have been working out for over a decade, obviously perfect training/nutrition and godlike genetics.
Do you think these are achievable bodies, and that we could one day look like them through pure training/nutrition/supplementation after like lets say 15years of training?
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02-07-2013, 09:43 AM #1
Do you guys think this body is possible to achieve NATURALLY
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02-07-2013, 09:45 AM #2
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02-07-2013, 09:47 AM #3
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02-07-2013, 09:47 AM #4
This is what I don't get..
I believe he is natural.
Why?
Because why not?
He has been training for 14years...
He was offered to become an IFBB but he had to start enhancing, he said no and stayed small.
He earns MUCH less money, has barely any sponsorship/recognition.. and has not increased in size in a decade.
If he was on roids, wouldn't he be competing in something more than natural bbing?
I mean people on roids, that train and eat the way he does, are HUGE.
He does not look like he takes roids. Watch the video.
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02-07-2013, 09:48 AM #5
He is one of those people that:
-Either stays natty, or goes full on IFBB with roids.
And he has been same size for almost a decade... so there is NO way he took roids, the way his muscle size increased.
He has pics of his size increasing year by year and weight, you can see he isn't on roids, otherwise the jumps would be way bigger.
+Why would he still compete in the "natural section" for low payment, instead of going full pro and earning 7digits?
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02-07-2013, 09:51 AM #6
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02-07-2013, 09:53 AM #7
Nope, watch the video.
He just wants to be the biggest/best self he can be, naturally.
He is all against enhancing, and he is a pro.
He competes in all the Natural comps, and also doesn't care if he wins/loses, just wants to get bigger every year.
He was asked after a competition if he ever wanted to take celltech to get nice and big and go to IFBB.
He said no way, he was gonna stay natty.
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02-07-2013, 10:01 AM #8
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02-07-2013, 10:36 AM #17
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02-07-2013, 10:44 AM #18
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02-07-2013, 10:53 AM #19
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02-07-2013, 11:05 AM #20
Honestly, not really. The pros with money like Jay Cutler have separate businesses that are promoted by their success in BBing. There's really almost zero money in bodybuilding when you take into consideration time and money spent, even with sponsors.
Anyways, I believe this guy is natural and I think this physique can be achieved naturally. He's about where my dad was in his natural BBing prime. Obviously genetics play a role in how his muscles look, but this guy isn't that huge. Gotta give credit to this dudes massive legs.
It's hard for most people to comprehend these kinds of gains naturally because most people don't stick to the hardcore dieting / lifting for over a decade. That's why when they see this, they can't relate to it and automatically think "steroids". It's an envy thing as well.-Only one thing in existence has the power to tell you that you can't. That thing is the mind. For it is the mind that manifests our reality, and nothing else.
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02-07-2013, 11:35 AM #21
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02-07-2013, 11:52 AM #23
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02-07-2013, 12:17 PM #24
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I couldn't say with 100% confidence that he's not natty. It might be achievable naturally for some.
So? Gains virtually half for every decent year of training. After 5 years of solid training, you could probably expect to gain around 0.75 pounds of muscle over the next year tops. And halve that for next year.
He was offered to become an IFBB but he had to start enhancing, he said no and stayed small.
He earns MUCH less money, has barely any sponsorship/recognition.. and has not increased in size in a decade.
If he was on roids, wouldn't he be competing in something more than natural bbing?
I mean people on roids, that train and eat the way he does, are HUGE.
He does not look like he takes roids. Watch the video.
That's because your definition of someone who does is a massive guy, (who would take a lot of different things), rather than, (repeating myself a lot), small doses.
I'm not saying he's not natural. I'm just saying that I think your reasoning is off.'People are gonna remember me as a god forever... Like-like-like Troy, like Chiles heel, I'm a god forever I'll be remembered for thousands of years to come' - Jason Genova
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02-07-2013, 12:20 PM #25
Just to let you know; he failed a drug test in a natural organisation, however it was because 1,3dm showed up, no cell tech etc; therefore I actually believe he's natty.
*Licks the angus first crew*
*Loves hbb girls heiny holes crew*
*Used to eat slugs as a kid crew*
*Wrestled a lepar crew*
*Collects hbb's farts in peanut butter jars crew*
*Cleans my feet with sandpaper crew*
*8" inch dink but 2" girth crew*
*Only clean dink every 2 weeks crew*
*Made a necklace pendant out of smegma crew*
*I take oral of Jackie Stallone crew*
*I will live in Mia Malkovas ass crew*
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02-07-2013, 12:21 PM #26
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02-07-2013, 12:45 PM #27
You're all so cynical, you people ask the wrong questions. Why do you try to examine and analyze his physique down to the last striation? The fact is, many of you will never know what the human body is capable of naturally with decades of consistency. You can speculate all you want but you should try listening to what he says rather than what he looks like. That might give you some better answers
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02-07-2013, 12:49 PM #28
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02-07-2013, 12:50 PM #29
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02-07-2013, 12:53 PM #30
Very possible.
“You, me or nobody is gonna hit as hard as life. But it ain’t about how hard you hit. It’s about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward. How much you can take and keep moving forward. That’s how winning is done! Now if you know what you’re worth than go out and get what you’re worth. But you gotta be willing to take the hits, and not pointing fingers sayin’, you ain’t where you wanna be because of him or her or anybody!"
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