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    Do you guys think this body is possible to achieve NATURALLY

    This guys have been working out for over a decade, obviously perfect training/nutrition and godlike genetics.

    Do you think these are achievable bodies, and that we could one day look like them through pure training/nutrition/supplementation after like lets say 15years of training?



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    IMO. Not even close to natty.
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    quite possible with those god genetics and i mean god but its unlikely that hes 100% natty. 15 years natty to build this or like 5 with dat dere celltech which do you think he went for?
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    Originally Posted by Wantaripbod View Post
    IMO. Not even close to natty.
    This is what I don't get..

    I believe he is natural.

    Why?

    Because why not?
    He has been training for 14years...
    He was offered to become an IFBB but he had to start enhancing, he said no and stayed small.
    He earns MUCH less money, has barely any sponsorship/recognition.. and has not increased in size in a decade.

    If he was on roids, wouldn't he be competing in something more than natural bbing?
    I mean people on roids, that train and eat the way he does, are HUGE.

    He does not look like he takes roids. Watch the video.
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    Originally Posted by george1612 View Post
    quite possible with those god genetics and i mean god but its unlikely that hes 100% natty. 15 years natty to build this or like 5 with dat dere celltech which do you think he went for?
    He is one of those people that:
    -Either stays natty, or goes full on IFBB with roids.
    And he has been same size for almost a decade... so there is NO way he took roids, the way his muscle size increased.

    He has pics of his size increasing year by year and weight, you can see he isn't on roids, otherwise the jumps would be way bigger.
    +Why would he still compete in the "natural section" for low payment, instead of going full pro and earning 7digits?
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    celltech isnt just for getting huge bro, it cant be used to harden the muscular look and reduce water weight. although i understand your point about staying the same size for 10 years, id think that pointless, hes gone past what id call the aesthetic size so must be aiming to get big.
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    Originally Posted by george1612 View Post
    celltech isnt just for getting huge bro, it cant be used to harden the muscular look and reduce water weight. although i understand your point about staying the same size for 10 years, id think that pointless, hes gone past what id call the aesthetic size so must be aiming to get big.
    Nope, watch the video.
    He just wants to be the biggest/best self he can be, naturally.
    He is all against enhancing, and he is a pro.

    He competes in all the Natural comps, and also doesn't care if he wins/loses, just wants to get bigger every year.

    He was asked after a competition if he ever wanted to take celltech to get nice and big and go to IFBB.
    He said no way, he was gonna stay natty.
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    If you watch the video, it says he only sleeps 4 hours a day. WTFFFFFFF.

    I love sleeping.
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    I think that that possible natty but thats probably full potential
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    why your abs so assymetric? now I'm fretting over mine..
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    Originally Posted by Exiled93 View Post
    If you watch the video, it says he only sleeps 4 hours a day. WTFFFFFFF.

    I love sleeping.
    If u pay attention u see he has another 4hr nap after.
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    Originally Posted by kenjoshx View Post
    why your abs so assymetric? now I'm fretting over mine..
    I wish those were mine.. Thats some1 else

    And assymetric abs are hot.
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    Originally Posted by alexistheboss View Post
    He is one of those people that:
    -Either stays natty, or goes full on IFBB with roids.
    And he has been same size for almost a decade... so there is NO way he took roids, the way his muscle size increased.

    He has pics of his size increasing year by year and weight, you can see he isn't on roids, otherwise the jumps would be way bigger.
    +Why would he still compete in the "natural section" for low payment, instead of going full pro and earning 7digits?
    Pro bb'ing isnt really much of an money make.
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    Originally Posted by moimoi123 View Post
    Pro bb'ing isnt really much of an money make.
    If u do it right it can be.
    And its a hell of allot more than natural BBing.

    If u watch the video he openly talks about steroids, and when he started he was planning to take them but never got around to it since he never needed any.
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    Originally Posted by alexistheboss View Post
    This guys have been working out for over a decade, obviously perfect training/nutrition and godlike genetics.

    Do you think these are achievable bodies, and that we could one day look like them through pure training/nutrition/supplementation after like lets say 15years of training?



    It really depends on your genetics. Some people will never look like that no matter how hard they train and how clean their diet is.
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    Can you build a body like this naturally in 15 years? Probably, if you do everything right.

    Some would argue that 15 years is too long to be waiting for anything, especially when there are ways of getting there in 2 or 3. Choose your priorities.
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    Originally Posted by InstaSwole View Post
    Can you build a body like this naturally in 15 years? Probably, if you do everything right.

    Some would argue that 15 years is too long to be waiting for anything, especially when there are ways of getting there in 2 or 3. Choose your priorities.
    Whatever i'm 17, not even thinking bout orange juice.
    I have been training 6months and made good good gains.
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    Originally Posted by alexistheboss View Post
    I wish those were mine.. Thats some1 else

    And assymetric abs are hot.
    no homo?
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    Originally Posted by Rabie72 View Post
    no homo?
    lol, yes, no homo.
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    Originally Posted by alexistheboss View Post
    If u do it right it can be.
    And its a hell of allot more than natural BBing.

    If u watch the video he openly talks about steroids, and when he started he was planning to take them but never got around to it since he never needed any.
    Honestly, not really. The pros with money like Jay Cutler have separate businesses that are promoted by their success in BBing. There's really almost zero money in bodybuilding when you take into consideration time and money spent, even with sponsors.

    Anyways, I believe this guy is natural and I think this physique can be achieved naturally. He's about where my dad was in his natural BBing prime. Obviously genetics play a role in how his muscles look, but this guy isn't that huge. Gotta give credit to this dudes massive legs.

    It's hard for most people to comprehend these kinds of gains naturally because most people don't stick to the hardcore dieting / lifting for over a decade. That's why when they see this, they can't relate to it and automatically think "steroids". It's an envy thing as well.
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    Originally Posted by Wantaripbod View Post
    IMO. Not even close to natty.
    He's been training for like 15-20 years; yes this is possible natty.
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    this physique is definitely possible after 15 years of lifting natty.

    i cant say for sure whether this guy is actually natty though, because i honestly doubt it
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    interesting responses.
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    I couldn't say with 100% confidence that he's not natty. It might be achievable naturally for some.



    Originally Posted by alexistheboss View Post
    This is what I don't get..

    I believe he is natural.

    Why?

    Because why not?
    He has been training for 14years...
    So? Gains virtually half for every decent year of training. After 5 years of solid training, you could probably expect to gain around 0.75 pounds of muscle over the next year tops. And halve that for next year.

    He was offered to become an IFBB but he had to start enhancing, he said no and stayed small.
    Because being a natty pro who uses small doses of celltech is easier to win than competing against the big guys who use everything under the sun.

    He earns MUCH less money, has barely any sponsorship/recognition.. and has not increased in size in a decade.
    Being a top level natural pro is probably just as good for money, sponsorship and recognition, than being a low level advanced bodybuilder. And his size right now is perfect for everyday life.

    If he was on roids, wouldn't he be competing in something more than natural bbing?
    No, because it's easier to take small doses in a strategic manner to avoid getting caught during testing, against other people many of whom are actually natural, rather than go into the big league and compete against other guys who are taking everything they can.

    I mean people on roids, that train and eat the way he does, are HUGE.
    Small doses.


    He does not look like he takes roids. Watch the video.

    That's because your definition of someone who does is a massive guy, (who would take a lot of different things), rather than, (repeating myself a lot), small doses.







    I'm not saying he's not natural. I'm just saying that I think your reasoning is off.
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    Just to let you know; he failed a drug test in a natural organisation, however it was because 1,3dm showed up, no cell tech etc; therefore I actually believe he's natty.
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    Possible but needs A LOT of training years and dedication to bodybuilding.
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    You're all so cynical, you people ask the wrong questions. Why do you try to examine and analyze his physique down to the last striation? The fact is, many of you will never know what the human body is capable of naturally with decades of consistency. You can speculate all you want but you should try listening to what he says rather than what he looks like. That might give you some better answers
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    tfw already reached my natty potential

    oh well, time for dem dere scooby snacks!
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    lol at '' but he's been training 14 years ''



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    Very possible.
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