Haiz and Tropinol XP - The Road to 6%

[XCriticalBenchX]

Nice feedback! Judging by the studies I've seen and the ones you've posted, nitrates are great for endurance athletes. Cool to see it working for you as well in your setting.

Maybe ill finally be able to do more than 20 mins of cardio

[thedarce]

Maybe ill finally be able to do more than 20 mins of cardio

haha yes, same here.

[UncleWade]

Maybe ill finally be able to do more than 20 mins of cardio

I might be able to, but I probably still won't.

[aaronuconn]

I get bored of cardio very quickly. No amount or type of music can save me from the degree of boredom cardio elicits.

[UncleWade]

I get bored of cardio very quickly. No amount or type of music can save me from the degree of boredom cardio elicits.

Doing it outdoors really helps - iPod set to Shuffle on Wolfmother (that **** is epic, I don't care if I've listened to it for like 7 years), scoop of Compete in hand, go to town. Just not in the winter.

[SoftballNerd]

I stopped by to see whats up...I see that Im interrupting a cardio discussion...later

[UncleWade]

I stopped by to see whats up...I see that Im interrupting a cardio discussion...later

Cardio?

[PuZo]

Cardio?

Weak sauce

[UncleWade]

Weak sauce

Final review soon?

[haiz69]

Almost there guys! Have a weekend writeup to do that I'm trying to put together.

Update in a minute!

[haiz69]

Days 22-25 - Arms/Saturday Full Body

Well ladies and gents, this past weekend was my last full-body depletion workout during this log. It was certainly worth it though. I was able to once again up the reps or weight on every single exercise. Endurance really is way up, but stregnth is as well. Saturday was a little different because I was on and off of the raquetball court for 2 hours and worked out in-between matches. However I still managed to get a fantastic workout in.

Bench -

Bench - 155 Poundsx10,5,3 (x2) - EASY +10 Pounds
Pulldowns - 145X12,6,3 (x2) - +Reps
Leg Press - 270X25,12,6 (X2) - Equal Weight, but insanely easy.
Clean and Press Rep Out with 95 Pounds (x1)

Machine Incline - 110X12,6,3 (x2) +Reps
Cable Row - 65X15,10,5 (x2) +5 Pounds
Leg Press (Close Feet) - 320X25,12,5 (x2) +Reps
Clean and Press Rep Out with 95 Pounds (x1)

Cable Fly - 115X15,10,5 (x3) Same, but added another set.
Machine High Row - 120x20,10,5 (x2) +10 Pounds
Leg Extension - 130X20,10,5 (x2) - +10 Pounds
Leg Curl - 90X15,10,5 (x2) Same
Clean and Press Rep Out with 95 Pounds (x1)

Pumps - 10/10

This rating is always a ten. I will say that saturday's pumps were out of the norm, because I ate dinner with my girlfriend's mom and couldn't refuse the dessert she made homemade for me. Three pieces of carrot cake. After that caution was thrown to the wind and this weekend was BIG carbup. Something in the range of 6,000 calories for 3 days in a row. Felt pretty awesome and strong on Monday. Once the bloat subsides I will be just as lean too.

Endurance - 10/10

I don't think I can say this any other way. Endurance has improved continually throughout the log. Definitely like this.

Strength - 8/10

Strength was up a bit this weekend. More endurance than anything.

Body Composition - N.A

This is pretty difficult to judge today based on how much I ate this weekend. By Thursday I should have all of this water dropped and see where I am at.

Mood/Energy/Agression - 8/10

Energy/Agression are "normal". Nothing out of the ordinary here.

[UncleWade]

Great workout, love that pumps are one of the main benefits - that's what I have the most fun with.

Looking forward to seeing your final review!

[XCriticalBenchX]

Hha I love your reason for not being able to evaluate recomp status. I love after my cheat meal, how I am like 6lbs heavier!! It usually takes me 2-3 days to balance back out!

Mike

[aaronuconn]

6,000 calories for 3 days in a row?! That's eating right there.

[PuZo]

6,000 calories for 3 days in a row?! That's eating right there.

I think I felt my heart hurt just for a second there...

[aaronuconn]

I think I felt my heart hurt just for a second there...

I'd have to have some of this on hand..

[SoftballNerd]

in for the final review!!!

[haiz69]

6,000 calories for 3 days in a row?! That's eating right there.

Absolutely. Usually I just do 2, as that is when de novo lipogenesis really starts to kick in, but I decided to not care for a day.

I am typing up a final review now. Taking me forever as I'm trying to figure out student loans. Hopefully will have it up tonight.

[SoftballNerd]

Absolutely. Usually I just do 2, as that is when de novo lipogenesis really starts to kick in, but I decided to not care for a day.

I am typing up a final review now. Taking me forever as I'm trying to figure out student loans. Hopefully will have it up tonight.

no worries man....

[haiz69]

Tropinol XP - Haiz's Final Review

Well, the time has come to write a final review for Iforce's new product: Tropinol XP. I dosed it as per the label instructions (2/2 on off days and 4 pre-workout on lifting days) for 28 days. I will break down my review into multiple sections, so here we go:

Pumps - 10/10

If anyone had read a single post in my log, this rating is of no surprise. Having limited experience with nitrates, I was extremely impressed with the ability of (potassium nitrate in this case) to augment the sought after "pump". I have used every other pump-inducing ingredient marketed and sold for the last 6-7 years, and I can say without a doubt that nitrates rank #1 in terms of pump-producing supplements. In addition to the nitrates, Icariin is purported to work via the PI3K/AKT-eNOS pathways, which could also aid in this arena. I can only say "pumps" so many times and take myself seriously, so we will leave it at that.

Endurance - 8/10

I'll be blunt: I ****in hate cardio. However, I don't mind High-Intensity interval work or metabolic conditioning work based on bodyweight exercises. During my time on Tropinol I did a mix of Prowler work (push/pull, usually for 40-50 yards) or HIIT on the Stationary Bike. Although I'm not a huge fan of the bike, it is convenient, as I don't have room for the Prowler at the gym. Plus, I can't pass up any chance to increase the mitochondrial density in my muscles. Anyways, back to the topic at hand: endurance. As far as I can judge, Tropinol at a noticeable effect on my endurance for higher rep weight work, as well as towards the end of my HIIT sessions. I noticed some increased power/longer time to exhaustion. The effect wasn't mind-blowing, but I think it would be highlighted more in someone who is doing more cardio and keeping a more accurate log of it. It is difficult to say what Tropinol contributed to my conditioning vs. body adaptation, but the research on nitrates in this arena is very positive and I believe it to have had a positive effect.

Strength - 8/10

As with endurance, it would be impossible to know exactly how much Tropinol helped with strength gains during my use of it, but again, I think the formula certainly confers some benefits to strength. I am a pretty firm believer in the importance of the mind-muscle connection in relation to strength, so anything that enhances it I am a fan of. In my experience with tropinol, the potassium nitrate and icariin, in addition to aiding in pumps, also enhanced the mind-muscle connection. As a result, I was able to lift more effectively and efficiently, all the while increasing the weight on exercises (while maintaing good form). After a few weeks I also think the Fadogia aided in some strength gains via testosterone increases/agression in the gym.

Body Composition - 8/10

During my use of Tropinol my % Bodyfat dropped, all the while keeping most (if not all) of my muscle. I was running a modified BodyOpus diet (Militant Cyclical Ketogenic Diet), which I have found extremely effective in the past. In comparison to the same diet without Tropinol, I lost about the same amount of bodyfat, but muscle retention/strength/energy seemed to be better. The forskolin should (and probably did), aid directly in promoting positive changes in bodycomp. The other ingredients, by way of promoting better and stronger workouts also certainly helped to improve bodycomp to a degree. I wouldn't attribute signifcant changes in bodyfat/muscle to Tropinol, but I definitely think it can be used effectively to create a more favorable metabolic/hormonal environment during dieting (or bulking).

Energy/Mood - 9/10

A nice benefit of Tropinol was the positive effects on Mood/Energy for me. I have had this in the past with Fadogia/Icariin, so I'd point to them for these effects. The increases in testosterone (also forskolin for free test), most likely played a significant role in promoting a positive attitude and increased agression in the gym. I wouldn't necessarily say I was feeling like the king of the jungle, but I definitely was more upbeat and energized.

Side Effects - N.A

I didn't notice any side effects from Tropinol. However, those low carbing (or those naturally with low Blood Pressure), should be careful with this and work up the dosage slowly. Icariin/Nitrates could both lower BP, so I would caution against jumping in at a full dose immediately. No other concerns/side effects for me.

Overall - 8.5/10

At the end of my use of Tropinol I was very happy with its effects. I would tend to suggest 2 bottles for use, especially with the Fadogia in there, as it does take a bit of time to really kick in. I would also think about adding some estrogen control to it - perhaps I3C, or Triazole/Erase low-dose. I didn't have any estrogen related sides, but with Fadogia's/Icariin I might consider it if one is prone to that kind of stuff.

Pumps were off the chart. Hard to compare to anything but another nitrate product. The combination with Icariin really is a nice one for the pump and mind-muscle connection. I wouldn't mind seeing this combo + a few other things in a non-stimulant pre-workout.

I like the Fadogia and Forskolin. Both very solid ingredients. I have always liked Forskolin for bodycomp purposes and Fadogia makes a nice part of a testosterone boosting stack/product. Also, for me Fadogia has always boosted mood/agression, which in turn results in better workouts/more energy. As mentioned previously, I do like an Estrogen control component with Fadogia, but that is just me.

I tried to find research on the 25-R, but there really isn't much to see. I couldn't find much of any literature on it, so it is a mystery to me. I understand what it is purported to do, but am not sold on its effectiveness. I would bet the formula would be just as good (or better), if the 25-R was replaced with I3C or something of the like.

I do find the combination of ingredients in Tropinol interesting. It clearly aims to provide both immediate and longer term benefits to the user. I can understand the need to provide immediate satisfaction to the user, but I also wonder if a more effective product could be created if there was more focus on one area. With that said, it is nice to get the workout benefits of nitrates/icariin, while also getting the Fadogia/Forskolin.

In the end, I did enjoy my use of Tropinol. I do suggest an 8 week run to really let the Fadogia and Forskolin take effect, which I believe will help with both bulking and dieting. Thanks to Iforce for letting me log the product. I really do apprecaite it!

[aaronuconn]

Very comprehensive review, sir. It's getting phenomenal feedback wherever I look.

[haiz69]

Very comprehensive review, sir. It's getting phenomenal feedback wherever I look.

Thanks for following along!

[UncleWade]

Very comprehensive review, sir. It's getting phenomenal feedback wherever I look.

Agreed - I'm giving it a shot myself, nothing but good things to say as yet. If you want a bottle, let me know and I'll see what we can do.

Thanks for following along!

Incredible review! Floored by the detail and depth of your feedback, I hope very much you'll consider logging for us in the future.

[PuZo]

Tropinol XP - Haiz's Final Review

Well, the time has come to write a final review for Iforce's new product: Tropinol XP. I dosed it as per the label instructions (2/2 on off days and 4 pre-workout on lifting days) for 28 days. I will break down my review into multiple sections, so here we go:

Pumps - 10/10

If anyone had read a single post in my log, this rating is of no surprise. Having limited experience with nitrates, I was extremely impressed with the ability of (potassium nitrate in this case) to augment the sought after "pump". I have used every other pump-inducing ingredient marketed and sold for the last 6-7 years, and I can say without a doubt that nitrates rank #1 in terms of pump-producing supplements. In addition to the nitrates, Icariin is purported to work via the PI3K/AKT-eNOS pathways, which could also aid in this arena. I can only say "pumps" so many times and take myself seriously, so we will leave it at that.

Endurance - 8/10

I'll be blunt: I ****in hate cardio. However, I don't mind High-Intensity interval work or metabolic conditioning work based on bodyweight exercises. During my time on Tropinol I did a mix of Prowler work (push/pull, usually for 40-50 yards) or HIIT on the Stationary Bike. Although I'm not a huge fan of the bike, it is convenient, as I don't have room for the Prowler at the gym. Plus, I can't pass up any chance to increase the mitochondrial density in my muscles. Anyways, back to the topic at hand: endurance. As far as I can judge, Tropinol at a noticeable effect on my endurance for higher rep weight work, as well as towards the end of my HIIT sessions. I noticed some increased power/longer time to exhaustion. The effect wasn't mind-blowing, but I think it would be highlighted more in someone who is doing more cardio and keeping a more accurate log of it. It is difficult to say what Tropinol contributed to my conditioning vs. body adaptation, but the research on nitrates in this arena is very positive and I believe it to have had a positive effect.

Strength - 8/10

As with endurance, it would be impossible to know exactly how much Tropinol helped with strength gains during my use of it, but again, I think the formula certainly confers some benefits to strength. I am a pretty firm believer in the importance of the mind-muscle connection in relation to strength, so anything that enhances it I am a fan of. In my experience with tropinol, the potassium nitrate and icariin, in addition to aiding in pumps, also enhanced the mind-muscle connection. As a result, I was able to lift more effectively and efficiently, all the while increasing the weight on exercises (while maintaing good form). After a few weeks I also think the Fadogia aided in some strength gains via testosterone increases/agression in the gym.

Body Composition - 8/10

During my use of Tropinol my % Bodyfat dropped, all the while keeping most (if not all) of my muscle. I was running a modified BodyOpus diet (Militant Cyclical Ketogenic Diet), which I have found extremely effective in the past. In comparison to the same diet without Tropinol, I lost about the same amount of bodyfat, but muscle retention/strength/energy seemed to be better. The forskolin should (and probably did), aid directly in promoting positive changes in bodycomp. The other ingredients, by way of promoting better and stronger workouts also certainly helped to improve bodycomp to a degree. I wouldn't attribute signifcant changes in bodyfat/muscle to Tropinol, but I definitely think it can be used effectively to create a more favorable metabolic/hormonal environment during dieting (or bulking).

Energy/Mood - 9/10

A nice benefit of Tropinol was the positive effects on Mood/Energy for me. I have had this in the past with Fadogia/Icariin, so I'd point to them for these effects. The increases in testosterone (also forskolin for free test), most likely played a significant role in promoting a positive attitude and increased agression in the gym. I wouldn't necessarily say I was feeling like the king of the jungle, but I definitely was more upbeat and energized.

Side Effects - N.A

I didn't notice any side effects from Tropinol. However, those low carbing (or those naturally with low Blood Pressure), should be careful with this and work up the dosage slowly. Icariin/Nitrates could both lower BP, so I would caution against jumping in at a full dose immediately. No other concerns/side effects for me.

Overall - 8.5/10

At the end of my use of Tropinol I was very happy with its effects. I would tend to suggest 2 bottles for use, especially with the Fadogia in there, as it does take a bit of time to really kick in. I would also think about adding some estrogen control to it - perhaps I3C, or Triazole/Erase low-dose. I didn't have any estrogen related sides, but with Fadogia's/Icariin I might consider it if one is prone to that kind of stuff.

Pumps were off the chart. Hard to compare to anything but another nitrate product. The combination with Icariin really is a nice one for the pump and mind-muscle connection. I wouldn't mind seeing this combo + a few other things in a non-stimulant pre-workout.

I like the Fadogia and Forskolin. Both very solid ingredients. I have always liked Forskolin for bodycomp purposes and Fadogia makes a nice part of a testosterone boosting stack/product. Also, for me Fadogia has always boosted mood/agression, which in turn results in better workouts/more energy. As mentioned previously, I do like an Estrogen control component with Fadogia, but that is just me.

I tried to find research on the 25-R, but there really isn't much to see. I couldn't find much of any literature on it, so it is a mystery to me. I understand what it is purported to do, but am not sold on its effectiveness. I would bet the formula would be just as good (or better), if the 25-R was replaced with I3C or something of the like.

I do find the combination of ingredients in Tropinol interesting. It clearly aims to provide both immediate and longer term benefits to the user. I can understand the need to provide immediate satisfaction to the user, but I also wonder if a more effective product could be created if there was more focus on one area. With that said, it is nice to get the workout benefits of nitrates/icariin, while also getting the Fadogia/Forskolin.

In the end, I did enjoy my use of Tropinol. I do suggest an 8 week run to really let the Fadogia and Forskolin take effect, which I believe will help with both bulking and dieting. Thanks to Iforce for letting me log the product. I really do apprecaite it!

Awesome log and glad you enjoyed it! Hopefully Tropinol get's added to the bb.com store soon enough!

[XCriticalBenchX]

Wow bro, that is one hell of a review, much appreciated! Glad you enjoyed it! Hopefully we can get you in the future to log other new products of ours.

Mike

Tropinol XP - Haiz's Final Review

Well, the time has come to write a final review for Iforce's new product: Tropinol XP. I dosed it as per the label instructions (2/2 on off days and 4 pre-workout on lifting days) for 28 days. I will break down my review into multiple sections, so here we go:

Pumps - 10/10

If anyone had read a single post in my log, this rating is of no surprise. Having limited experience with nitrates, I was extremely impressed with the ability of (potassium nitrate in this case) to augment the sought after "pump". I have used every other pump-inducing ingredient marketed and sold for the last 6-7 years, and I can say without a doubt that nitrates rank #1 in terms of pump-producing supplements. In addition to the nitrates, Icariin is purported to work via the PI3K/AKT-eNOS pathways, which could also aid in this arena. I can only say "pumps" so many times and take myself seriously, so we will leave it at that.

Endurance - 8/10

I'll be blunt: I ****in hate cardio. However, I don't mind High-Intensity interval work or metabolic conditioning work based on bodyweight exercises. During my time on Tropinol I did a mix of Prowler work (push/pull, usually for 40-50 yards) or HIIT on the Stationary Bike. Although I'm not a huge fan of the bike, it is convenient, as I don't have room for the Prowler at the gym. Plus, I can't pass up any chance to increase the mitochondrial density in my muscles. Anyways, back to the topic at hand: endurance. As far as I can judge, Tropinol at a noticeable effect on my endurance for higher rep weight work, as well as towards the end of my HIIT sessions. I noticed some increased power/longer time to exhaustion. The effect wasn't mind-blowing, but I think it would be highlighted more in someone who is doing more cardio and keeping a more accurate log of it. It is difficult to say what Tropinol contributed to my conditioning vs. body adaptation, but the research on nitrates in this arena is very positive and I believe it to have had a positive effect.

Strength - 8/10

As with endurance, it would be impossible to know exactly how much Tropinol helped with strength gains during my use of it, but again, I think the formula certainly confers some benefits to strength. I am a pretty firm believer in the importance of the mind-muscle connection in relation to strength, so anything that enhances it I am a fan of. In my experience with tropinol, the potassium nitrate and icariin, in addition to aiding in pumps, also enhanced the mind-muscle connection. As a result, I was able to lift more effectively and efficiently, all the while increasing the weight on exercises (while maintaing good form). After a few weeks I also think the Fadogia aided in some strength gains via testosterone increases/agression in the gym.

Body Composition - 8/10

During my use of Tropinol my % Bodyfat dropped, all the while keeping most (if not all) of my muscle. I was running a modified BodyOpus diet (Militant Cyclical Ketogenic Diet), which I have found extremely effective in the past. In comparison to the same diet without Tropinol, I lost about the same amount of bodyfat, but muscle retention/strength/energy seemed to be better. The forskolin should (and probably did), aid directly in promoting positive changes in bodycomp. The other ingredients, by way of promoting better and stronger workouts also certainly helped to improve bodycomp to a degree. I wouldn't attribute signifcant changes in bodyfat/muscle to Tropinol, but I definitely think it can be used effectively to create a more favorable metabolic/hormonal environment during dieting (or bulking).

Energy/Mood - 9/10

A nice benefit of Tropinol was the positive effects on Mood/Energy for me. I have had this in the past with Fadogia/Icariin, so I'd point to them for these effects. The increases in testosterone (also forskolin for free test), most likely played a significant role in promoting a positive attitude and increased agression in the gym. I wouldn't necessarily say I was feeling like the king of the jungle, but I definitely was more upbeat and energized.

Side Effects - N.A

I didn't notice any side effects from Tropinol. However, those low carbing (or those naturally with low Blood Pressure), should be careful with this and work up the dosage slowly. Icariin/Nitrates could both lower BP, so I would caution against jumping in at a full dose immediately. No other concerns/side effects for me.

Overall - 8.5/10

At the end of my use of Tropinol I was very happy with its effects. I would tend to suggest 2 bottles for use, especially with the Fadogia in there, as it does take a bit of time to really kick in. I would also think about adding some estrogen control to it - perhaps I3C, or Triazole/Erase low-dose. I didn't have any estrogen related sides, but with Fadogia's/Icariin I might consider it if one is prone to that kind of stuff.

Pumps were off the chart. Hard to compare to anything but another nitrate product. The combination with Icariin really is a nice one for the pump and mind-muscle connection. I wouldn't mind seeing this combo + a few other things in a non-stimulant pre-workout.

I like the Fadogia and Forskolin. Both very solid ingredients. I have always liked Forskolin for bodycomp purposes and Fadogia makes a nice part of a testosterone boosting stack/product. Also, for me Fadogia has always boosted mood/agression, which in turn results in better workouts/more energy. As mentioned previously, I do like an Estrogen control component with Fadogia, but that is just me.

I tried to find research on the 25-R, but there really isn't much to see. I couldn't find much of any literature on it, so it is a mystery to me. I understand what it is purported to do, but am not sold on its effectiveness. I would bet the formula would be just as good (or better), if the 25-R was replaced with I3C or something of the like.

I do find the combination of ingredients in Tropinol interesting. It clearly aims to provide both immediate and longer term benefits to the user. I can understand the need to provide immediate satisfaction to the user, but I also wonder if a more effective product could be created if there was more focus on one area. With that said, it is nice to get the workout benefits of nitrates/icariin, while also getting the Fadogia/Forskolin.

In the end, I did enjoy my use of Tropinol. I do suggest an 8 week run to really let the Fadogia and Forskolin take effect, which I believe will help with both bulking and dieting. Thanks to Iforce for letting me log the product. I really do apprecaite it!