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    My diet last two weeks

    Lots of protein, veggies amd fruit. I'm looking leaner feeling better and same strength amd energy levels actually feel up. The less bad carbs more lean protein keeps me fuller but my blood sugar doesn't go up and down. Only major change I really made was stop eating bread and pasta or potatoes. Feeling good I want to drop my body fat from 16-13
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    Originally Posted by muscleshakes View Post
    Lots of protein, veggies amd fruit. I'm looking leaner feeling better and same strength amd energy levels actually feel up. The less bad carbs more lean protein keeps me fuller but my blood sugar doesn't go up and down. Only major change I really made was stop eating bread and pasta or potatoes. Feeling good I want to drop my body fat from 16-13
    What? How are they bad carbs
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    Originally Posted by AlwaysTryin View Post
    What? How are they bad carbs
    Seriously? There is hardly Any nutritionally good out of most breads amd pastas. They are good if your just wanting to put on fat. All you need is protein and veggies and some fruit. If you need a carb eat some oatmeal
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    FYI- been on my protein, veggie and fruit only diet for two weeks 14 days and I look better already maybe dropped weight but I don't care I have lot more energy and lot less bloated looking. I'm actually not as hungry throughout the day but I still eat every 3 hours so 6 times a day. 4 meals and 2 shakes magnum Quattro. I'm the leanest I've ever been With the muscle I had. Immot going back and forth just staying on protein , veggies and fruit. Only other thing I may add is some oatmeal here amd there. No breads no pasta crap
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    good on you for fruit.
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    Originally Posted by muscleshakes View Post
    Seriously? There is hardly Any nutritionally good out of most breads amd pastas. They are good if your just wanting to put on fat. All you need is protein and veggies and some fruit. If you need a carb eat some oatmeal
    Lol what? How does it make you put on fat

    You got no idea lol
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    Originally Posted by AlwaysTryin View Post
    Lol what? How does it make you put on fat

    You got no idea lol
    Yea what are you talking about op..please aware us on how breads and pasta will make you put on fat?
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    Originally Posted by AlwaysTryin View Post
    What? How are they bad carbs
    I'm sure he meant white bread/pasta. A simple switch to multigrain based carbs (slower digesting) will do wonders. Of course if it isn't in moderation, then it'll be pointless.
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    Originally Posted by doza808 View Post
    I'm sure he meant white bread/pasta. A simple switch to multigrain based carbs (slower digesting) will do wonders. Of course if it isn't in moderation, then it'll be pointless.
    Oh dear

    You think white carbs are bad?
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    white (refined) carbs are worse than brown. They are processed, easily convert to sugars and has a more negative affect on insulin levels than brown whole unrefined carbs.
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    Originally Posted by mastdog View Post
    white (refined) carbs are worse than brown. They are processed, easily convert to sugars and has a more negative affect on insulin levels than brown whole unrefined carbs.
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    Originally Posted by mastdog View Post
    white (refined) carbs are worse than brown. They are processed, easily convert to sugars and has a more negative affect on insulin levels than brown whole unrefined carbs.

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    Originally Posted by AlwaysTryin View Post
    Lol oh dear
    Yes oh dear because there are differences between refined/unrefined carbs
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    Originally Posted by AlwaysTryin View Post
    Lol oh dear
    Instead of saying Lol oh dear, why don't you explain a bit more :-)
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    Originally Posted by AlwaysTryin View Post
    What? How are they bad carbs
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    Lol what? How does it make you put on fat

    You got no idea lol
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    Oh dear

    You think white carbs are bad?
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    Lol oh dear
    why not add something useful to the thread?
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    Originally Posted by blkbelt42 View Post
    why not add something useful to the thread?
    Ok

    In what way are white carbs bad? The GI is irrelevant, the smaller amount of fibre shouldn't matter as if you're relying on brown rice for your fibre there are bigger issues in your diet, the nutrients aren't that much less and once again shouldn't matter because people should be getting a variety of fruits/veg

    One item in a daily nutritional plan doesn't make or break it, I.e white vs brown
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    Saying one item in a diet plan doesnt make or break it is just plain wrong. You want to be getting the maximum nutritional value out of each food source and choosing white over brown is just a half arsed way of going about things.
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    Originally Posted by mastdog View Post
    Saying one item in a diet plan doesnt make or break it is just plain wrong. You want to be getting the maximum nutritional value out of each food source and choosing white over brown is just a half arsed way of going about things.

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    Originally Posted by mastdog View Post
    Saying one item in a diet plan doesnt make or break it is just plain wrong. You want to be getting the maximum nutritional value out of each food source and choosing white over brown is just a half arsed way of going about things.
    I don't believe one item in a diet makes or breaks a plan. I think believing that certain foods are inherently bad is the beginning of an ugly relationship with food. While it is great to make sure you consume the majority of your food from quality sources, consuming above and beyond the RDA of most micronutrients will not convey additional benefits.

    In general, I would argue against any claim that certain food items are inherently bad. How does any food have a negative impact on insulin if you are no in a chronically overfeed state? How is processed bad, nearly EVERYTHING we eat is processed in some manner. What part of the processing makes white rice bad? How is brown rice not processed? All food is converted to sugar (glycogen) at some point, what makes the speed of conversion worse?



    Worrying about small insignificant details and complicating your diet just makes it less sustainable.
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    This thread makes me want to get some chicken alfredo now...
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    Originally Posted by acrawlingchaos View Post
    I don't believe one item in a diet makes or breaks a plan. I think believing that certain foods are inherently bad is the beginning of an ugly relationship with food. While it is great to make sure you consume the majority of your food from quality sources, consuming above and beyond the RDA of most micronutrients will not convey additional benefits.

    In general, I would argue against any claim that certain food items are inherently bad. How does any food have a negative impact on insulin if you are no in a chronically overfeed state? How is processed bad, nearly EVERYTHING we eat is processed in some manner. What part of the processing makes white rice bad? How is brown rice not processed? All food is converted to sugar (glycogen) at some point, what makes the speed of conversion worse?



    Worrying about small insignificant details and complicating your diet just makes it less sustainable.
    Im not saying white rice is bad, if its being put in a diet its probably better than what you used to be having.
    However im saying brown rice is better and i dont understand why you wouldnt want to be getting the maximum nutritional benefits out of your food.
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    Originally Posted by mastdog View Post
    Im not saying white rice is bad, if its being put in a diet its probably better than what you used to be having.
    However im saying brown rice is better and i dont understand why you wouldnt want to be getting the maximum nutritional benefits out of your food.

    Aside from some very minor differences in vitamins & minerals, you know what the difference is between 100 grams of white vs. brown rice is? Brown has 2 grams of fibre, & the white has a few grams more carbs. That's it. If your diet is that lousy that those couple of grams are going to be of significant benefit, then you're in trouble.


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    The difference between brown rice and white rice is not just color! A whole grain of rice has several layers. Only the outermost layer, the hull, is removed to produce what we call brown rice. This process is the least damaging to the nutritional value of the rice and avoids the unnecessary loss of nutrients that occurs with further processing. If brown rice is further milled to remove the bran and most of the germ layer, the result is a whiter rice, but also a rice that has lost many more nutrients. At this point, however, the rice is still unpolished, and it takes polishing to produce the white rice we are used to seeing. Polishing removes the aleurone layer of the grain--a layer filled with health-supportive, essential fats. Because these fats, once exposed to air by the refining process, are highly susceptible to oxidation, this layer is removed to extend the shelf life of the product. The resulting white rice is simply a refined starch that is largely bereft of its original nutrients.

    Our food ranking system qualified brown rice as an excellent source of manganese, and a good source of the minerals selenium and magnesium. The complete milling and polishing that converts brown rice into white rice destroys 67% of the vitamin B3, 80% of the vitamin B1, 90% of the vitamin B6, half of the manganese, half of the phosphorus, 60% of the iron, and all of the dietary fiber and essential fatty acids. By law in the United States, fully milled and polished white rice must be "enriched" with vitamins B1, B3, and iron. But the form of these nutrients when added back into the processed rice is not the same as in the original unprocessed version, and at least 11 lost nutrients are not replaced in any form even with rice "enrichment."

    When your overweight it is the little things that matter as once the little things start to slip then its a lot easier for everything else to fail.
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    Originally Posted by mastdog View Post

    When your overweight it is the little things that matter as once the little things start to slip then its a lot easier for everything else to fail.
    Lol what
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    Originally Posted by AlwaysTryin View Post
    Lol what
    Alwaystryin, every post you comment on you never offer anything you just mock and never say anything constructive. Yes Lol at me for choosing to eat a healthier option
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    Obviously if your only eating protein,fruit and veg (low cal foods)your going to be in a calorie deficit. Does'nt mean the calorie dense carb sources you cut out (pasta, rice, bread etc) is bad, if you control your caloric intake you'll be able to eat whatever foods you want provided they suit your macro & micro nutrient needs and still lose weight and achieve your goals. I doubt your tracking calories and i would bet your weight loss will stall within the next 4-6 weeks.
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    Originally Posted by mastdog View Post
    Alwaystryin, every post you comment on you never offer anything you just mock and never say anything constructive. Yes Lol at me for choosing to eat a healthier option
    Why do little tiny things matter most when overweight?
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    Brown rice bloats me, period. Maybe it's the fiber content or something but I can't do it. Instead I have two small servings of white rice a day usually with lean beef, chicken or omega rich fish ie; Salmon or Mackerel. We use a long grain wr sold in 10lb bags which is apparently not as "processed" as the Uncle Ben's, Carolina varieties. Anyways, white rice seems to be ok with me. I think both sides have valid arguments here.
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    Originally Posted by mastdog View Post
    When your overweight it is the little things that matter as once the little things start to slip then its a lot easier for everything else to fail.

    What? Eating white rice causes people to fail their diets?
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