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    Vitamin b-15 controversy?? Interesting

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    why is it outlawed in the US?
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    sounds pretty good..shady how the FDA took it off the shelfs? Uppon further reading the 1980 soviets we suplementing this with their hockey team..
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    Lol @ "Used in Russia"...

    Appealing to Russia as a testament of health really makes sense.
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    This is actually really interesting stuff...I mean why would the USA ban a B vitamin?
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    Looks legit op.....lmao, misc aka the land of bioscience


    Vit B15 be trollin


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pangamic_acid

    They also termed this chemical "Vitamin B15", though it is not a true vitamin, has no nutritional value, has no known use in the treatment of any disease and has been called a "quack remedy." Although a number of compounds labelled "pangamic acid" have been studied or sold, no chemical compound, including those claimed by the Krebses to be pangamic acid, has been scientifically verified to have the characteristics that defined the original description of the compound.

    Positive results from mutagenicity analysis via the Ames test of compounds commonly found in preparations labelled "pangamic acid" including diisopropylamine dichloroacetate, diisopropylamine,[4] dichloroacetate,[5] as well as dimethylglycine mixed with sodium nitrite[2] suggests there may be concern for the development of cancer with the use of these substances.
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    So this is what Drago was being injected with in Rocky
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    Curious if anyone has ever taken this..Russia bros check in
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    I like how the two links with the walls of text are actually copypasta. One of them just plagiarized the other who probably just plagiarized someone else.

    They may have professional degrees like MDs and PhDs, but I don't trust dip****s who resort to something as unprofessional as plagiarism because they're too fuking lazy to write something on their own. I can bet their laziness extends to reviewing the current body of research. I'm all for alternative and complementary medicine that has been proven to work (acupuncture, for example), but not retarded quacks like Dr. Janet Hall. Looking at some of her other writings just gave me mild drain bamage.


    tl;dr vitamin B-15 and B-17 as cancer cures are quackery unless further research suggests otherwise
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    Originally Posted by MakeABanana View Post
    I like how the two links with the walls of text are actually copypasta. One of them just plagiarized the other who probably just plagiarized someone else.

    They may have professional degrees like MDs and PhDs, but I don't trust dip****s who resort to something as unprofessional as plagiarism because they're too fuking lazy to write something on their own. I can bet their laziness extends to reviewing the current body of research. I'm all for alternative and complementary medicine that has been proven to work (acupuncture, for example), but not retarded quacks like Dr. Janet Hall. Looking at some of her other writings just gave me mild drain bamage.


    tl;dr vitamin B-15 and B-17 as cancer cures are quackery unless further research suggests otherwise
    I agree..but it's interesting stuff
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    well it is sold on amazon kind of expensive though, some good reviews and some bad
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    Originally Posted by Lilswolled View Post
    well it is sold on amazon kind of expensive though, some good reviews and some bad
    I saw that
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    Originally Posted by svtballa View Post
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    wonder if the bottles r legit though, since there is no regulation and is illegal they can be selling you anything
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    Originally Posted by svtballa View Post
    This is actually really interesting stuff...I mean why would the USA ban a B vitamin?
    Why do they ban cell tech but keep cigs and alchohol? No moral logic in a lot of our legislature.


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    Originally Posted by captainpolution View Post
    So this is what Drago was being injected with in Rocky
    lol watched all the Rocky movies the last two days

    I've heard Chael Sonnen on the JRE say his doctor prescribes him vitamins cause the over the counter ones are practically useless and is 90% marketing on the label.
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    Originally Posted by Lilswolled View Post
    wonder if the bottles r legit though, since there is no regulation and is illegal they can be selling you anything
    Very good point
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    Originally Posted by Ganjamayne View Post

    I've heard Chael Sonnen on the JRE say his doctor prescribes him vitamins cause the over the counter ones are practically useless and is 90% marketing on the label.
    He also tested positive for steroids. His doctor probably prescribes him testosterone for his "TRT" that somehow every mixed martial artist needs.
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    Originally Posted by jcant View Post
    He also tested positive for steroids. His doctor probably prescribes him testosterone for his "TRT" that somehow every mixed martial artist needs.
    His doctor and the UFC allowed him to take Testosterone because he was lacking in Testosterone (or was below what he should be producing test) apparently. Then when he tested positive he told them they gave him the green light and basically went against their word and changed their opinion. His doctor and the UFC allowed him to. Think about that.
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    yeah, and that hockey team lost to the usa. you need a shot of vitamin A, as in vitamin America. benefits include hard work, honesty, and pride.
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    It's all good an well that it may work... that is not the problem. The problem is finding a reliable source of b-15. It is not big on the market yet like all other vitamins... I would deem it a risk to be buying a b-15 supplement off the internet from a chemist in god knows what country.
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    Originally Posted by Ganjamayne View Post
    His doctor and the UFC allowed him to take Testosterone because he was lacking in Testosterone (or was below what he should be producing test) apparently. Then when he tested positive he told them they gave him the green light and basically went against their word and changed their opinion. His doctor and the UFC allowed him to. Think about that.
    Tells you a lot about "hormone deficiencies" when half the UFC is on TRT in their late 20s/early 30s. There's no set standard for it, so doctors can pretty much prescribe it to you if you want it. It's a joke and the UFC knows it.
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