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    Equivalent deadlift weight?

    Hey all,

    Today I couldn't go to the gym so I had to do my deadlifts here at home. I have a 300 lb olympic weight set but I wanted to do 320 lbs today. I put two 10 lb dumbells in a backpack and put that on while lifting the 300 lb bar set. Is this "close enough" to equivalent to 320 lbs? Probably not dead on and with only 20 lbs I'm sure it's no big deal but I'm curious what others think. By the way, I will be ordering more weights so hopefully I won't have to do this too much more.
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    you are wearing the backpack and not lifting it from the ground, right?
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    Originally Posted by k9pit View Post
    you are wearing the backpack and not lifting it from the ground, right?
    Correct
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    I don't think this would be the same, no.
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    Not the same. Duct tape the DB's to the barbell..
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    nah, doubt it would be the same resistance in terms of the pull.
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    I'm pretty sure you're all correct, however, it does make the deadlift harder so it is equivalent to something. Think about it this way: if the number were bigger and you put a 150 lb backpack on and then tried to deadlift 300 lbs, it's certainly not as easy as deadlifting 300 lbs with no backpack. So I know it's equivalent to something, just not sure how equivalent.
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    Basically what you're doing is performing a 300lb deadlift with an effectively higher body weight. You're feeling that increased "body weight".
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    Originally Posted by razor23 View Post
    I'm pretty sure you're all correct, however, it does make the deadlift harder so it is equivalent to something. Think about it this way: if the number were bigger and you put a 150 lb backpack on and then tried to deadlift 300 lbs, it's certainly not as easy as deadlifting 300 lbs with no backpack. So I know it's equivalent to something, just not sure how equivalent.
    Yeah but there is no deadlift equivilent. You are deadlifting with essentially a weighted vest on. The closest thing I can think of is a Vogelpohl lift ( I believe that's what its called) where you deadlift against bands while simultaneously supporting a safety squat bar on your back. I can't even find a picture of it anymore so that might indicate how popular that type of lift is.
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    Originally Posted by razor23 View Post
    I'm pretty sure you're all correct, however, it does make the deadlift harder so it is equivalent to something. Think about it this way: if the number were bigger and you put a 150 lb backpack on and then tried to deadlift 300 lbs, it's certainly not as easy as deadlifting 300 lbs with no backpack. So I know it's equivalent to something, just not sure how equivalent.
    I think it would be the equivalent of doing something pointless and stupid.
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    adamdavidson47,

    I think your answer is the equivalent of pointless and stupid. If you don't like the question, go somewhere else. I'm interested in intelligent answers because I'm curious what others think.
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    Originally Posted by razor23 View Post
    Hey all,

    Today I couldn't go to the gym so I had to do my deadlifts here at home. I have a 300 lb olympic weight set but I wanted to do 320 lbs today. I put two 10 lb dumbells in a backpack and put that on while lifting the 300 lb bar set. Is this "close enough" to equivalent to 320 lbs? Probably not dead on and with only 20 lbs I'm sure it's no big deal but I'm curious what others think. By the way, I will be ordering more weights so hopefully I won't have to do this too much more.
    I dont really think this helped your deadlift at all. It may have made the exercise harder cause you had weights in a backpack strapped to you, but not equivalant to 320 lb deadlift. If i were you, i'd just rep out 300 (if thats not your max) and push for more reps to make up for the extra 20lbs of weight you dont have at home. Doing that would still be just as effective and building strength and making your deadlift stronger even though you cant do the poundage you would like to.

    This would be more effective at making gains espically if your body isnt used to performing multiple reps over a certain number in pounds for deadlifts.
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    Originally Posted by Alpha414 View Post
    I dont really think this helped your deadlift at all. It may have made the exercise harder cause you had weights in a backpack strapped to you, but not equivalant to 320 lb deadlift. If i were you, i'd just rep out 300 (if thats not your max) and push for more reps to make up for the extra 20lbs of weight you dont have at home. Doing that would still be just as effective and building strength and making your deadlift stronger even though you cant do the poundage you would like to.

    This would be more effective at making gains espically if your body isnt used to performing multiple reps over a certain number in pounds for deadlifts.
    Probably true, but I truly hate high rep deadlifts so I was trying to go heavier rather than more reps. Anyway, it shouldn't be an issue as most times I can get to the gym and pretty soon I'll be getting more olympic plates anyway. Thanks for the answers everyone!
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    Originally Posted by razor23 View Post
    adamdavidson47,

    I think your answer is the equivalent of pointless and stupid. If you don't like the question, go somewhere else. I'm interested in intelligent answers because I'm curious what others think.
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    u should rape tape the dumbells to the olympic bar
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    Originally Posted by adamdavidson47 View Post
    You asked for opinions, I offered one.
    Next time I'll be sure to add "intelligent" and possibly "helpful" before opinions. Most of us here just assume those things because we actually like to help each other. Even a funny response is welcome. Yours was none of those things.
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    Originally Posted by razor23 View Post
    Even a funny response is welcome. Yours was none of those things.
    I thought it was somewhat amusing.
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    Originally Posted by ironwill2008 View Post
    I thought it was somewhat amusing.
    Guess I'm a fan of a different type of humor. I like humor that takes more work than coming in and saying something is stupid or pointless. Anybody can do that...maybe that's why I don't find it amusing. Anyway, no worries, I got what I wanted out of this thread so I'm not upset.
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    The weight on your back is going to be more akin to a squat, so you're basically adding 20 lbs of squat resistance to your 300 ld deadlift, which I would think would make your deadlift more difficult thus not allowing you to go quite maximal effort on the target muscles for the target ROM.

    Honestly, it's 20 lbs, either attach it to be bb, wait until your new weight show up, or just add a couple reps to your working sets.
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    Originally Posted by razor23 View Post
    Guess I'm a fan of a different type of humor.
    Lulz. You'll find all types in this forum, from extremely subtle all the way to hit-you-over-the-head stupid!
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    Although others disagree I feel this is a good replacement for the deadlift. I realize it is not totally equivalent, but for a temporary replacement I think this serves well enough. Plus it is much easier than taping the dumbbells to the bar.
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    Originally Posted by 23Akers View Post
    Although others disagree I feel this is a good replacement for the deadlift. I realize it is not totally equivalent, but for a temporary replacement I think this serves well enough. Plus it is much easier than taping the dumbbells to the bar.
    Thanks man, glad you think so. I didn't want to tape the dumbells to the bar as I need them for other things and that seems like a lot of work and a big waste of tape just for a few sets.
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    Originally Posted by ironwill2008 View Post
    Lulz. You'll find all types in this forum, from extremely subtle all the way to hit-you-over-the-head stupid!
    Ain't that the truth! That's why I try not to take it all too seriously. Life's too short to worry about a few people I disagree with or don't like.
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