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    Greg Plitt MFT28 - Liquid diet?

    Hey guys, quick question for you. Greg Plitt's MFT28 workout was released today, and I was excited to see his plan and get started. Anyway, check out the link below and look at his nutrition guide. It calls for ONE solid meal a day, the rest is all liquid. I'm kind of skeptical, especially since his supplement guide is all Met-Rx products. What do you guys think?

    Obviously he knows what he's talking about, and honestly liquid meals would help out a lot since it's really hard for me to get in all the meals I'm supposed to every day, but I figured it would be a good question to ask you guys.

    Edit: It won't let me post links because I don't have 50 posts, so go check out MFT28 and look at the nutrition video.
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    Not interested in any nutrition advices from that guy.


    You'd do well to simply start here, OP:
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    You should be skeptical he is paid by the supplement company of the supps he is suggesting. You will not get enough micros from liquid meals... also I would be hungry all the time. It would also lighten your wallet with all the supps he is requesting... STICK TO FOOD!
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    Originally Posted by Creed25 View Post
    Obviously he knows what he's talking about
    Based on what? His looks? Nothing overly special - not that they would matter even if he sported muscles bigger than Coleman. Also pretty sure he has admitted to steroid use at one point.
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    It's amazing that people fall for such obvious marketing nonsense.
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    Wow, all liquid except for 1 solid meal. This is one of the worst nutrition plans I've ever seen. If it works for you, I'm sure it won't kill you or anything but I could never, and would never, do anything like that plan.
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    Originally Posted by WonderPug View Post
    It's amazing that people fall for such obvious marketing nonsense.
    Well, that's pretty much why I decided to post the question. Like I said, I was excited to see it, but once it got released I got skeptical and decided to ask you guys.

    I do like the work out plan, well a lot of the exercises, it's just the nutrition/supplement guide didn't seem right.
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    Originally Posted by Creed25 View Post
    Well, that's pretty much why I decided to post the question. Like I said, I was excited to see it, but once it got released I got skeptical and decided to ask you guys.

    I do like the work out plan, well a lot of the exercises, it's just the nutrition/supplement guide didn't seem right.
    What's his training program look like? It's probably crap too if his nutritional guide is terrible.
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    Originally Posted by Naeem11 View Post
    What's his training program look like? It's probably crap too if his nutritional guide is terrible.
    Weight training twice per day, 5 days per week.



    Not very many pro bodybuilders (with all of their recovery 'advantages') train on double-split routines, much less recommend such foolishness for a natty trainee.
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    Originally Posted by ironwill2008 View Post
    Weight training twice per day, 5 days per week.



    Not very many pro bodybuilders (with all of their recovery 'advantages') train on double-split routines, much less recommend such foolishness for a natty trainee.
    It is a military fitness trainer, though. It's not actually geared towards anyone, I don't believe. I also haven't even opened the link for it, so that's just speculation. I feel like the whole concept was derived from Met-Rx' insatiable craving for money. GP is just their poster boy. "Greg, we need you to be a good little boy and sell everyone on BB.com our supplements because they idolize your body like a god."
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    the logic I got out of it: Greg : " I was in the military once, our military is strong, therefore because my program has the word military in it, I can safely say that it's a strong program"
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    its awesome.

    The program is just that. A 28 day program, it's not an everyday type thing. The splits are heavy in the AM and lower weight high reps in PM. The nutrition is different, new but so was eating 5 meals a day to someone who was taught to eat breakfast, lunch, and dinner. His supplements are recommended but it just states whey, casein, creatine, HMB, multi, fish oil, and glutamine. These should be everyone's foundation.
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    Originally Posted by eagle5269 View Post
    The program is just that. A 28 day program, it's not an everyday type thing. The splits are heavy in the AM and lower weight high reps in PM. The nutrition is different, new but so was eating 5 meals a day to someone who was taught to eat breakfast, lunch, and dinner. His supplements are recommended but it just states whey, casein, creatine, HMB, multi, fish oil, and glutamine. These should be everyone's foundation.
    No, just no
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    Originally Posted by eagle5269 View Post
    The program is just that. A 28 day program, it's not an everyday type thing. The splits are heavy in the AM and lower weight high reps in PM. The nutrition is different, new but so was eating 5 meals a day to someone who was taught to eat breakfast, lunch, and dinner. His supplements are recommended but it just states whey, casein, creatine, HMB, multi, fish oil, and glutamine. These should be everyone's foundation.
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    Originally Posted by eagle5269 View Post
    The program is just that. A 28 day program, it's not an everyday type thing. The splits are heavy in the AM and lower weight high reps in PM. The nutrition is different, new but so was eating 5 meals a day to someone who was taught to eat breakfast, lunch, and dinner. His supplements are recommended but it just states whey, casein, creatine, HMB, multi, fish oil, and glutamine. These should be everyone's foundation.
    LMAO.


    Just stop.
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    Originally Posted by eagle5269 View Post
    The program is just that. A 28 day program, it's not an everyday type thing. The splits are heavy in the AM and lower weight high reps in PM. The nutrition is different, new but so was eating 5 meals a day to someone who was taught to eat breakfast, lunch, and dinner. His supplements are recommended but it just states whey, casein, creatine, HMB, multi, fish oil, and glutamine. These should be everyone's foundation.



    Plitt fans
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    MFT28 update

    Update to this program. There are a lot of haters, people who doubt it, those who follow the routines listed in magazines, this person and that person. And I am someone who follows G. Plitt. Some of his philosophies are a little out there and he will even admit that.
    So now to the program. Here is my schedule Monday through Friday.
    345am- Wake up and down 2 scoops of whey.
    415am- PWO drink on the way to the gym
    430am- Following program
    530am- Post recovery Amino’s
    600am- Post workout protein + carb shake
    900am- Bridge drink-2 scoops casein w/ carrots, kale, mustard greens, collard greens, cucumbers, tomatoes, and some other veggies thrown in.
    1230pm- Solid meal- lots of lean protein and lots of leafy green veggies, broccoli, asparagus. I eat a lot (for me). Because its clean eating I can eat as much until I am comfortable and satisfied not miserable.
    300pm- 2nd preworkout meal.
    330pm- 2nd workout
    500pm- post workout shake
    900pm- Pre bed bridge meal- Scoops of casein w/water.

    AM Heavier weight, less reps 8-12 failure at 12. If I can get passed 12 I go until the pain says hello, and then I say goodbye.
    PM Lighter weights higher reps. 15-20 sometimes 20-30.

    I focus on perfect form. I am not a beginner so I know what I can do and what I can’t do because I didn’t push myself.

    So to everyone that talks smack on this, or on the person who came up with it. Is your program so great? Do you see the results that you want? Are you meeting your goals? Oh you are??? Okay then why are you looking at Greg Plitt’s plan? And why are you taking time to respond? Until you have gone through it you cannot fully expect to understand it. But this is just my opinion…
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    eagle, go peddle this in the exercise forums. His nutrition recommendations are fair game in the nutrition forum, and since you don't care what the people are telling you, why are you still here? Trying to get converts or just trolling?
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    LOL...jesus. This diet is totally unnecessary.
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    Originally Posted by snorkelman View Post
    eagle, go peddle this in the exercise forums. His nutrition recommendations are fair game in the nutrition forum, and since you don't care what the people are telling you, why are you still here? Trying to get converts or just trolling?
    Nope because the thread first started with the diet portion. Just puting in my two cents.
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    Originally Posted by eagle5269 View Post
    Update to this program. There are a lot of haters, people who doubt it, those who follow the routines listed in magazines, this person and that person. And I am someone who follows G. Plitt. Some of his philosophies are a little out there and he will even admit that.
    So now to the program. Here is my schedule Monday through Friday.
    345am- Wake up and down 2 scoops of whey.
    415am- PWO drink on the way to the gym
    430am- Following program
    530am- Post recovery Amino’s
    600am- Post workout protein + carb shake
    900am- Bridge drink-2 scoops casein w/ carrots, kale, mustard greens, collard greens, cucumbers, tomatoes, and some other veggies thrown in.
    1230pm- Solid meal- lots of lean protein and lots of leafy green veggies, broccoli, asparagus. I eat a lot (for me). Because its clean eating I can eat as much until I am comfortable and satisfied not miserable.
    300pm- 2nd preworkout meal.
    330pm- 2nd workout
    500pm- post workout shake
    900pm- Pre bed bridge meal- Scoops of casein w/water.

    AM Heavier weight, less reps 8-12 failure at 12. If I can get passed 12 I go until the pain says hello, and then I say goodbye.
    PM Lighter weights higher reps. 15-20 sometimes 20-30.

    I focus on perfect form. I am not a beginner so I know what I can do and what I can’t do because I didn’t push myself.

    So to everyone that talks smack on this, or on the person who came up with it. Is your program so great? Do you see the results that you want? Are you meeting your goals? Oh you are??? Okay then why are you looking at Greg Plitt’s plan? And why are you taking time to respond? Until you have gone through it you cannot fully expect to understand it. But this is just my opinion…
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    Been doing it for 5 days bro....i feel good. Some how i do feel energetic and i can do 2 workouts a day. I guess ill try to get back to you in 23 days. 5 days , 5 solid meals. 👍👍👍


    Originally Posted by Creed25 View Post
    Hey guys, quick question for you. Greg Plitt's MFT28 workout was released today, and I was excited to see his plan and get started. Anyway, check out the link below and look at his nutrition guide. It calls for ONE solid meal a day, the rest is all liquid. I'm kind of skeptical, especially since his supplement guide is all Met-Rx products. What do you guys think?

    Obviously he knows what he's talking about, and honestly liquid meals would help out a lot since it's really hard for me to get in all the meals I'm supposed to every day, but I figured it would be a good question to ask you guys.

    Edit: It won't let me post links because I don't have 50 posts, so go check out MFT28 and look at the nutrition video.
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    I saw his diet plan the other day.

    I am curious to see if:
    1) anyone is trying it and following it (more or less) the way he laid out
    2) How are the results going


    For me I started trying just the diet portion yesterday (2-13-13).....
    So I did the protein shakes, and a solid meal in the evening around 5 pm consisting of 3 tilapia filets and broccoli.
    Breakfast protein shake consisting of whey and casein
    For the mid-morning/PWO shake (whey), I also did an apple and a Quest protein bar.
    I did a Post protein shake (whey) by ABB, so that was 50 grm of protein, and I added in creatine and glutamine.....I also did an orange.
    At 3 pm I did another protein shake (whey and casein)
    Around 5 pm I did my meal
    Around 7 pm I did another shake (whey and casein)

    I will say this, it was tough....
    But I am looking to try something to shed the fat around my mid-section.
    I am 35 and have been trying since Jan. 14th of this year based on changing my food/diet to cut out carbs.....but I wasn't seeing the results I wanted.
    So I saw GP's plan, and thought I would give it a go.......but I am a bit skeptical of an all liquid diet plan....but I thought I would try it before I knock it.
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    Originally Posted by sdunn96 View Post
    But I am looking to try something to shed the fat around my mid-section.

    (sigh).........

    You don't need some bogus supplement/liquid 'diet' to to lose body fat.


    You need a basic regular food nutrition plan to go along with a reasonable weight training program.
    No brain, no gain.

    You can't out-train bad nutrition.

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    Originally Posted by sdunn96 View Post
    I am a bit skeptical of an all liquid diet plan....but I thought I would try it before I knock it.
    I guess that's the mindset that allows these scams to continue.
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    Originally Posted by ironwill2008 View Post
    (sigh).........

    You don't need some bogus supplement/liquid 'diet' to to lose body fat.


    You need a basic regular food nutrition plan to go along with a reasonable weight training program.
    Right, and I have been eating "regular food".....I don't deny that.
    But even then, I am not seeing the results I would like.
    Up until yesterday.
    My diet consisted of cottage cheese, peanut butter, sweet potatoes, chicken, tilapia, quest protein bars....
    Things along those lines.....

    If I were about 10 - 15 yrs younger, then I assure you, I would have no problems......but now it really sucks to get old.
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    Originally Posted by WonderPug View Post
    I guess that's the mindset that allows these scams to continue.
    Scam or not... I don't know.
    But I think I have supplements in my house that I would get regardless of who was pushing it, just as I am sure you do.
    for me:
    whey protein?.... Check
    casein protein?.... Check
    creatine?..... Check
    glutamine..... Check
    Pre-Workout..... Check.
    Multi-Vitamin.... Check.

    Is there anything in that list that most if not all of us have to begin with?
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    Originally Posted by sdunn96 View Post
    My diet consisted of cottage cheese, peanut butter, sweet potatoes, chicken, tilapia, quest protein bars....
    The problem is that you think the names of the foods you eat is what matters. It doesn't. What matters is sustained energy balance and micro/macronutrient sufficiency. And if you spent a few minutes learning the basics about nutrition, you would know this and not be prone to scams like a liquid diet.



    Originally Posted by sdunn96 View Post
    Is there anything in that list that most if not all of us have to begin with?
    None of that is necessary and the only thing on that list that can uniquely help some folks is creatine, and that only provides a 1% or 2% advantage in those that respond to supplementation.
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    Originally Posted by WonderPug View Post
    The problem is that you think the names of the foods you eat is what matters. It doesn't. What matters is sustained energy balance and micro/macronutrient sufficiency. And if you spent a few minutes learning the basics about nutrition, you would know this and not be prone to scams like a liquid diet.
    I would be glad for you to expound on this.

    And I have spent many minutes reading up on nutrition....
    I mean I don't eat my veggies and chkn breast, and shun doughnuts because I love it......

    So please enlighten me a bit
    Tell me what you eat throughout the day, I would be curious to see where you and I differ.
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