This type of fail won't be a problem with bumper plates. You just let them drop. This guy could have let his iron plates drop but didn't want to damage anything. There are other fails that would be a problem.
Anyway, you made what seems like a stupid decision now but bumper plates are versatile and worthwhile. You can do more lifts with them, like heavy power cleans, snatches and overhead press. Well, you won't need to for a while but it's a nice touch.
Could have gotten cheaper bumpers but not that much cheaper.
Also you said it's some shiny chrome bar? Ivanko sets come with stainless or black bars.
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This type of fail won't be a problem with bumper plates. You just let them drop. This guy could have let his iron plates drop but didn't want to damage anything. There are other fails that would be a problem.
Anyway, you made what seems like a stupid decision now but bumper plates are versatile and worthwhile. You can do more lifts with them, like heavy power cleans, snatches and overhead press. Well, you won't need to for a while but it's a nice touch.
Could have gotten cheaper bumpers but not that much cheaper.
Also you said it's some shiny chrome bar? Ivanko sets come with stainless or black bars.
It's stainless steel, is that not chrome? If it's not, then damn I don't know anything about bars. And yes its shiny. Not the middle where I hold it but at the ends where the weights go. I've never owned a bar before and it glares at me in my garage lights. Either that or it appeals to me too much.
And thanks for the tips. If I decide not to return it, my mom will think of me as even more fickle considering I'm changing my mind again.
It's stainless steel, is that not chrome? If it's not, then damn I don't know anything about bars. And yes its shiny. Not the middle where I hold it but at the ends where the weights go. I've never owned a bar before and it glares at me in my garage lights. Either that or it appeals to me too much.
And thanks for the tips. If I decide not to return it, my mom will think of me as even more fickle considering I'm changing my mind again.
Is it the needle bearing bar?
Don't worry about your mom about returns and changing your mind now. You don't know the difference between chrome and stainless so obviously you did minimal research. Now you can do some research and think carefully. It's not about being fickle, it's about not knowing enough either way.
Think of what you'll be training like. Will you do oly lifts? Then you'll be dropping a lot. You'll need to build a platform. It won't be quiet. Then your mom may have some more complaints.
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She has explained it, she said that she wants me to make better decisions next and make up my mind because there will be times in life where I can't take things back. She gotta point.
I agree with your mom. She wants you to take responsibility for the decisions you make. If you had bought the plates and bar and wanted to return them because they're defective, that'd be another matter. It sounds though like you did a lot of research and purchased some really quality equipment. You just didn't do quite enough research to make sure you'd have enough budget for the rest of the equipment you'd need. In my opinion, that's not a good reason for doing the return.
I know there are those who feel differently about things like this. Heck, there are folks who'll purchase several competing products, try them all out for a while and then use a vendor's liberal return policy to return the ones they don't like as well. I don't think that's right either.
Anyway... you have some really excellent equipment. I think you should put it to good use.
Keep the weights, its an fantastic opportunity that may not come around again, and they'll last you a lifetime.
Do the basic barbell exercises KB listed above, throw in some bodyweight/weighted movements like pullups, dips etc. off anything you can find, and save for a good used power rack.
My new training log:
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I have to agree with everyone who is telling you to keep the weights and do the exercises you can do safely in the meantime.
You're basically throwing money away with the shipping and restocking fee (if applicable) that could have been used for the rack.
We've all been in your situation at one point or another, but you started off your collection with some awesome equipment.
And I also am interested in seeing the Ivanko set in some pics,
If payment for pics is required, I have become friends with a Nigerian Prince who needs to get rid of his riches :P (not srs)
Just another two bit opinion. If you really want to start serious weightlifting and strength building, you'll need and want more stuff. Right now the weight set is your ball and chain. Those weights won't build any more muscle than weights costing $200 - $300, but as long as you have them you can't move on, and you can't help pay the dog's bills.
Once you send them back, start a new thread on the forum titled "what's the best way to spend $1000 on a home gym", and you'll get lot's of good responses telling you how to really make that $1000 work for your benefit.
I don't agree that the OP should return his equipment, but if that's still under consideration...
The OP should call the vendor and find out about restocking fees. Also find out how much it'll cost to ship it all back. It will probably cost more for the OP to ship it back than it did for the vendor to ship it to him. When it's all said and done, the OP might not get as much back as he was hoping for.
Another option is for the OP to try to sell his equipment locally. It's possible that the OP might do slightly better by selling on craigslist. Others here will be a better judge of that than me. One advantage of selling locally is that the OP will be able to use the equipment up to the point that the buyer comes to pick it up.
I don't agree that the OP should return his equipment, but if that's still under consideration...
The OP should call the vendor and find out about restocking fees. Also find out how much it'll cost to ship it all back. It will probably cost more for the OP to ship it back than it did for the vendor to ship it to him. When it's all said and done, the OP might not get as much back as he was hoping for.
Another option is for the OP to try to sell his equipment locally. It's possible that the OP might do slightly better by selling on craigslist. Others here will be a better judge of that than me. One advantage of selling locally is that the OP will be able to use the equipment up to the point that the buyer comes to pick it up.
Just another opinion....but while I agree that he should see how much it will cost him to return them, if its not too painful, I still might consider sending them back. Even if it costs him $400, he's still going to have $1400 to buy a cage and some weights. You can get a nice cage and probably 500lbs of weights for $1400. The cage and the extra weights are going to be far more useful to someone than 300lbs of pretty bumper plates with no cage.
Everyone knows I'm not one to shy away from having more equipment, but this is one situation where the op might be better served with different equipment. Shiny Ivanko bumpers are great....but $1800 (or $1400 even) is a bit steep for 300lbs of plates that will be inadequate if he sticks with this for long.
As far as the ethics of returning something....I'm not sure if I get the issue with it. Stores have return policies for a reason and the better stores don't have an issue if you're returning things just for "buyer's remorse". The plates will be resellable as new, so there isn't going to be a loss to the company....especially if they charge a restocking fee....which considering they had to pay shipping, I'd say that's more than fair. If he was trying to scam the company or otherwise take advantage of them, I'd agree....but simply returning because they're not what you really want or need isn't unethical imho. A company that realizes that and works with the customer is a stand up organization and personally....would be more likely to get my money going into the future.
As far as "learning a lesson".....I'd say what ever he has to pay for shipping or restocking is going to be a lesson that is hard to forget. Let's say it is the $400 I suggested....the OP basically spent time looking for plates, ordered them, anticipated their arrival, now has to ship them back.....all for the cost out of his pocket of $400 (theoretically). Its a mistake with dollar signs in front of it and sometimes those kinds of lessons can stick with you forever. I've certainly learned via my wallet a time or two myself.
Yeah I dont think I would keep a 1700 Ivanko weight set if I was 16...Its more of like a world class set, wait till you are sure you like weightlifting before you get stuff like that.
I would buy just average stuff to start, I began with a cheap ptec (600), low end York weight + bar set ($275), and a flat Lamar bench (about 200.)
The low end stuff all works the same its just not as nice, but when money is an issue sometimes people dont have the luxury of nice, or dont know what they want specifically, but still want to start exercising.
For 1700 or whatever you have, get something like this:
Rouge R-3 (695+150 shipping)
Rouge flat bench (175 + shipping)
Cap 0b86 bar that GI likes (130 + shipping)
300lb weight set at local sports store for the plates, then re-sell the bar the same day on CL for around $40
But I dont think you need a premium Ivanko set especially if you dont have have a rack yet, no bench, vet bills, charging people to post pictures, etc...
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