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    Originally Posted by JordanCABJ View Post
    Thought it was cals in vs cals out
    no, sugar is not the same as protein, not all calories are made the same
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    Originally Posted by mind4muscle7 View Post
    no, sugar is not the same as protein, not all calories are made the same
    wow ur fawkin retarded, calorie is just a unit of heat measurement, so 1cal=1cal

    and the exothermic reaction associated with protein and sugar (carbs) are equivalent, being 4 calories per each gram.
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    Originally Posted by mightyillidan View Post
    and yeah bro if u wanna lower calories up the protien it will help converse muscle
    Won't go below 1750
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    and as for OP, this is very common for former obese people. they will get loose skin and it will go back to normal size eventually, but i hear it takes a long time depending on severity of obesity.

    my advice:

    -cut until you cant lose anymore weight at 1800 cals
    -incorporate HIIT in ur cut
    -slowly raise calories and lean bulk, making sure you dont pack on alotta weight, use mirror as guide
    -tan to reduce the excess skin problem
    -work out obliques,lowerback,upperthigh,abs to stretch the excess skin
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    how tall are you? look about 10-11%, i'd start bulking to 180 now
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    Originally Posted by mikey78910 View Post
    how tall are you? look about 10-11%, i'd start bulking to 180 now

    5'10... Bulked from skinny fat and got fat again
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    Originally Posted by BronyBrah View Post
    and as for OP, this is very common for former obese people. they will get loose skin and it will go back to normal size eventually, but i hear it takes a long time depending on severity of obesity.

    my advice:

    -cut until you cant lose anymore weight at 1800 cals
    -incorporate HIIT in ur cut
    -slowly raise calories and lean bulk, making sure you dont pack on alotta weight, use mirror as guide
    -tan to reduce the excess skin problem
    -work out obliques,lowerback,upperthigh,abs to stretch the excess skin

    When you say HIIT cardio.... The calories I burn, would I eat them or just let it further my deficit?
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    Originally Posted by JordanCABJ View Post
    When you say HIIT cardio.... The calories I burn, would I eat them or just let it further my deficit?
    further, only do this when reaching plateau
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    Originally Posted by BronyBrah View Post
    further, only do this when reaching plateau
    It would be the same as eatting 1800 cals and burning 200.. = 1600
    As just eating 1600 cals right?
    And ok
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    Originally Posted by JordanCABJ View Post
    It would be the same as eatting 1800 cals and burning 200.. = 1600
    As just eating 1600 cals right?
    And ok
    yes but HIIT has other benefits that are better then opposed to just calorie reducing. and going that low will cause future problems. jumping from 1800 to 2000 wont be a prob, but 1600 to 2000 will add much more fat due to your metabolism shifting and adjusting to lower states of caloric intake

    The key to calorie reducing is to lose weight at the highest caloric intake possible.

    nikkas these days cutting at 1000cals and losing weight successfully, but bouncing back from that will fk em over.

    i finished my cut at 1200cals and 157lbs... 4months later i was clicking 3000cals at 220lbs

    bulk not even once
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    Keep cutting bro get dem abs u want, chill with them for awhile then start bulk. What I'll be doing anyways
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    Originally Posted by JordanCABJ View Post
    Exactly what I'm aiming for. Bf estimate? And 2-3 is a good estimate to having a decently lean stomach?
    Maybe it's just me but I don't see anything wrong (fatness)
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    I'd cut till summer and just be shredded if I was you. That's what I'm currently doing, think about being shredded and being able to bulk through out summer.......perfect.
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    Originally Posted by Hiokbrah View Post
    I'd cut till summer and just be shredded if I was you. That's what I'm currently doing, think about being shredded and being able to bulk through out summer.......perfect.
    That's what I'm doing but not til
    Summer..
    I'm not sure how long this would tell
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    Originally Posted by Del1nquent View Post
    Keep cutting bro get dem abs u want, chill with them for awhile then start bulk. What I'll be doing anyways
    Once I get the abs showing completely my bulk would start... I wanna be as lean as possible while bulking
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    Originally Posted by JordanCABJ View Post
    Once I get the abs showing completely my bulk would start... I wanna be as lean as possible while bulking
    Don't lose heart mate. Will be tracking your progress, good luck

    Also, were you slightly chubby as a kid? I was and had the same problem. Now trying to bulk up so that I can afford to have a higher body fat to show the abs
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    Originally Posted by JordanCABJ View Post
    Once I get the abs showing completely my bulk would start... I wanna be as lean as possible while bulking
    Ive got the same mentality. Ive never had a "six pack" before and this is the closest Ive ever been. I know dis feel.
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    Originally Posted by Coneilly View Post
    Don't lose heart mate. Will be tracking your progress, good luck

    Also, were you slightly chubby as a kid? I was and had the same problem. Now trying to bulk up so that I can afford to have a higher body fat to show the abs
    Yeah I was chubby my whole life but 2 years ago I actually got too big.. Hit 210lb
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    Originally Posted by sSmitty93 View Post
    Ive got the same mentality. Ive never had a "six pack" before and this is the closest Ive ever been. I know dis feel.
    It sucks but good luck to you bro
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    Lower back and side ab is driving me insane.. Should it be getting softer and more "jiggly" if I'm cutting?
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    Originally Posted by JordanCABJ View Post
    Lower back and side ab is driving me insane.. Should it be getting softer and more "jiggly" if I'm cutting?
    Huh? When your cutting you wanna get dry, correct me if am wrong.
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    Originally Posted by Rabie72 View Post
    Huh? When your cutting you wanna get dry, correct me if am wrong.
    Yeah deff..... But I heard that blood flow is much more when ur fat gets softer and starts going away.. I wake up dry then get a little softer :/
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    Originally Posted by JordanCABJ View Post
    Yeah deff..... But I heard that blood flow is much more when ur fat gets softer and starts going away.. I wake up dry then get a little softer :/
    Broscience: http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat...uishy-fat.html
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    Originally Posted by Rabie72 View Post
    I'm currently on creatine5g a day... How do I drop this water that the article claims my fat cells are holding?
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    Originally Posted by JordanCABJ View Post
    I'm currently on creatine5g a day... How do I drop this water that the article claims my fat cells are holding?
    lower carb + cardio
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    Originally Posted by Rabie72 View Post
    lower carb + cardio
    Thought carbs didn't matter, but how many grams of carbs would you suggest?
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    Originally Posted by JordanCABJ View Post
    Thought carbs didn't matter, but how many grams of carbs would you suggest?
    Carbs in morning (upon wakeup) around 50g, and after workout around 50g. That's what I do when I cut.
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