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    What supplement to pick?

    Trainers in my gym asked me to get Serious mass. But i currently have a diet that is as follows : Fat - 103.6g Carb - 507.9 g Protein - 156.4g. That is a total of 3500 calories with zero supplements. Thats a very high amount of carbohydrate in my diet. And it looks like i will need much more protein.

    But Serious Mass contains like 252 g of carbohydrate and 50 g of protein per serving. I don't think i need that kinda carbs in my already carb-rich diet, isnt that right? Or shall i get whey protein? What do you guys recommend for a beginner dude who goes to gym thrice a week (split workout) and has the nutrient intake as given?

    Serious Mass seems to have Glutamine, Creatine and vitamins that might help me to built muscle. I don't have so much money to buy them separately atm.

    I am a really slim kid (5'10'', 119 lb) whose goal is to gain 15 lb of mass by end of april, 22 years old.
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    Up the protein for now bro. Just add an additional chicken breast or a can of tuna. Do that every day for 7 days and see if you put anything on. If not, then add even more protein -- 2 chicken breasts.2 cans of tuna, etc. Tell the trainers at your gym to blow you.
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    Originally Posted by nradam123 View Post
    Trainers in my gym asked me to get Serious mass. But i currently have a diet that is as follows : Fat - 103.6g Carb - 507.9 g Protein - 156.4g. That is a total of 3500 calories with zero supplements. Thats a very high amount of carbohydrate in my diet. And it looks like i will need much more protein.

    But Serious Mass contains like 252 g of carbohydrate and 50 g of protein per serving. I don't think i need that kinda carbs in my already carb-rich diet, isnt that right? Or shall i get whey protein? What do you guys recommend for a beginner dude who goes to gym thrice a week (split workout) and has the nutrient intake as given?

    Serious Mass seems to have Glutamine, Creatine and vitamins that might help me to built muscle. I don't have so much money to buy them separately atm.

    I am a really slim kid (5'10'', 119 lb) whose goal is to gain 15 lb of mass by end of april, 22 years old.
    Hats off to you if you since you havnt become a blimp eating like that, I would. Like you said I would up your protein, go with the traditional 1.5g to 2g per lb and see how that does you. Like the above poster said about the trainers. Also, yes if you would like to use whey then go for it, you could also just eat more food to get the protein if you like.
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    Well the chicken breast, tuna increment thing sounds like a nice plan lol. But the problem is that i am currently not eating any meat or eggs due to some problems so i have to resort to dairy products (im taking cheese and milk), quinoa, peanut butter and oats to get most of my protein. And most of those foods come with lots of carbs and that why my carb rose so much. So i am going to take protein powders in shakes (with milk, banana and peanut butter). Thats all i can do.

    So whey is the best, i will get that right? Any alternate thoughts?
    Again i am a super slim dude, my pictures are in a different thread but i am not allowed to post the link here due to less posts thing lol. I heard that creatine and glutamine might be really helpful for super-ecto-hardgainer like me. Any thoughts?

    Thanks for the replies btw
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    1 gram of protein per pound of LEAN BODY MASS is enough, you have your protein needs covered as is, you can increase it if you want but there is no need. Ignore your trainers, you don't need a mass gainer if you can get all of your dietary needs from whole foods.
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    Don't bother with the mass gainer, it's just food...it's like eating some chicken and a buncho rice (and dumping a ton of sugar in it).

    It sounds like your diet is on track. Cals could be kinda high for your weight but I don't know what your specific routines are.
    You do not need more protein, you're already eating more than enough for your weight.

    Just keep at it.

    Since you're a beginner, you're going to see a lot of recomp at first.
    The scale will be misleading for a beginner trying to pack on lean mass...take a look in the mirror every day maybe even take pictures for yourself to compare.
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    I think your cals might be a little bit high, I bulk on a 3300 cal first and you're MUCH lighter so I think you might want to take a look at that, but if it works for you that is fine I know everyone is different.
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    Originally Posted by nradam123 View Post
    Trainers in my gym asked me to get Serious mass. But i currently have a diet that is as follows : Fat - 103.6g Carb - 507.9 g Protein - 156.4g. That is a total of 3500 calories with zero supplements. Thats a very high amount of carbohydrate in my diet. And it looks like i will need much more protein.

    But Serious Mass contains like 252 g of carbohydrate and 50 g of protein per serving. I don't think i need that kinda carbs in my already carb-rich diet, isnt that right? Or shall i get whey protein? What do you guys recommend for a beginner dude who goes to gym thrice a week (split workout) and has the nutrient intake as given?

    Serious Mass seems to have Glutamine, Creatine and vitamins that might help me to built muscle. I don't have so much money to buy them separately atm.

    I am a really slim kid (5'10'', 119 lb) whose goal is to gain 15 lb of mass by end of april, 22 years old.
    Just use a good whey protein supplement. No need for so much calorie surplus offered by ON Serious Mass. Try ON Whey Gold Standard instead, with a good creatine supplement. Take the whey protein before and after working out.
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    Originally Posted by nradam123 View Post
    Well the chicken breast, tuna increment thing sounds like a nice plan lol. But the problem is that i am currently not eating any meat or eggs due to some problems so i have to resort to dairy products (im taking cheese and milk), quinoa, peanut butter and oats to get most of my protein. And most of those foods come with lots of carbs and that why my carb rose so much. So i am going to take protein powders in shakes (with milk, banana and peanut butter). Thats all i can do.

    So whey is the best, i will get that right? Any alternate thoughts?
    Again i am a super slim dude, my pictures are in a different thread but i am not allowed to post the link here due to less posts thing lol. I heard that creatine and glutamine might be really helpful for super-ecto-hardgainer like me. Any thoughts?

    Thanks for the replies btw
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    @mornigstaru - Whats a recomp?

    @nugget5: Here is my diet from another thread. Any thoughts? I am literally on auto-mode now with this diet and i slowly peaked from around 1500 calories a day. I will tell you about my gains. I was 45kg on dec 15 2012 (I withered from 52 kg due to very very bad food at college plus a recovery from a disease.). 45kg was an alarm for me, and thats why i decided to f*** everything and go on a killer transformation. I regained my lost mass pretty quickly. I was 51.5kg by Jan 5th or so when i began workout, it was only eating before that. Now it has been 3 weeks of workout (1 week just pushup/stretching, 1 week just minor lifting, 1 week quite intense split lifting. All thrice a week mon, wed, fri). My current weight is 54 kg which is a 2.5 kilo increase in 3 weeks, mostly due to food. I take pictures, but you cant see any difference hehe. Maybe a little tummy lol. My diet is not in proper proportion as you can see.
    I like to give cool names to my meals so that i feel like i am doing something really badass lol. I cant sleep more than 7 hours due to my work schedule. I also drink 3 litres of water.

    Values are (Fat, Protein, Carb,Total Calories).

    Meal 1 (Protein Blast) Time: 6:00 AM
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    (8.1,21,28.6,271.3)

    Meal 2 (Peanut-Cheese Fiesta) Time: 6:30 AM
    (4 banana + 1 tbsp peanut butter + 1 inch butter + 2 slice cheese + 1.5 cup milk + 1 cup corn + 1/2 cup oats)
    (36.1,31,117.5,918.9)

    Meal 3 (Soymilk Django) Time: 10 AM
    200 ml of Pure Chocolate Soymilk
    (3.2,6.4,25.2,155.2)

    Meal 4 (Mess-Merize) Time: 12:30 - 1:30 PM
    5 chappatti > Rice, Daal, Salad.
    (Approx = 0,15,64,316)

    Meal 5 (Sprouted Blast) Time: 4 PM
    Quinoa + Beans + Lemon + Olive Oil + Onion Raw-Veg-Sprouted Fiesta
    (24,30,100,736)

    Meal 6 (Corn Oat Explosion) Time: 6:00 PM
    (1.5 cup milk + 1 cup corn + 1/2 cup oats)
    (10.1,17,80,478.9)

    Meal 7 (Mess Destruction) Time: 8:30 to 9:30 PM
    5 chappatti > Rice, Daal. Take some cucumber for later.
    (Approx = 0,15,64,316)

    Meal 8 (Salad-Juice Tango) Time (Just after Mess Destruction)
    Cucumber + Carrot + Cabbage + Olive oil + Juice.
    (Not Very Sure, Olive is 14g fat in 1 tbsp)

    Meal 9 (Protein Blast) Time 11:00 PM
    (250ml Milk + 2 tbsp Bprotin)
    (8.1,21,28.6,271.3)

    I am gonna soon stop BProtin and maybe add a whey, my doctor asked me to take it due to extreme weight loss.
    This was my current diet for past 3 or 4 days and i am a little confused whether this is healthy.
    Because as a whole i am consuming 103.6g fat and 156.4g protein and 507.9 g carbohydrate.
    Thats a total of 3500 calories and there is too much fat.
    I think i need to increase the protein without increasing the fat further but i cant really find a way to do that because even Veg food has so much fat along with other nutrients lol. I think cheese, butter also has cholesterol. I included olive oil in the diet even though it has 14g of protein because my mom used to say that it is really good for health.

    My recommended intake i think is Fat - 68g, Carb - 385g, Protein - 230g
    My current intake is Fat - 103.6g Carb - 507.9 g Protein - 156.4g
    Kinda out of balance :/
    @melaneybh. Thats a lot of varieties of protein that i never knew off. But i think none of them are available in my gym atm. I will buy a whey and check on em for my next month plan
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    whey protein will do you more than serious mass

    on a side note, i bought serious mass, and let me tell you...the taste was ATROCIOUS, it honestly tasted like 30 year old chocolate, thats been left open with a hint of mold and a bronze type taste like if you were to lick a penny.

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