Paleo diet for weight loss

[WonderPug]

While the diet itself is clearly not for everyone, it does encourage people to eat clean, whole, unprocessed foods, which has to count for something.

Why not drop the asinine labels like "paleo" and "clean", stop arbitrarily restricting food intake, and start proscribing a rational diet with properly calibrated energy intake to goals with micro/macronutrient sufficiency ensured via consumption of mostly whole and minimally processed foods?

[motiva8]

Thanks for that, some good points.

I agree that there are several types of paleo diets but one thing they virtually all agree on is that grains are a problem. Thing is that's really the only part I'm gonna try and cut out for a month (with sugar, high fructose corn syrup,...).

I'm not going full crazy and removing things like eggs, tomatoes, potatoes, that some paleo diet gurus advocate. I'm gonna continue eating dairy (low fat milk/cheese/creme) and things like chickpeas.

So really, the only thing I'm cutting out is grains. I'll give a shot, one month. I just simply feel better without them. I don't think I have celiac or anything that serious, I don't feel freakin' awful when I have grains, it's just that they tend to bloat me up a little, make me feel full/tired...

Cheers, care to rep seeing as a particular user who seems not to have contributed whatsoever to this thread decided to bring me down a strong 12 reps of my small amount (not sure how to post screen captions) as opposed to calling my argument out.

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02-03-2013 10:12 PM
avokshi2000
Thread: Paleo diet for weight...

wtf are you taking about? possibly the worst argument i have ever heard

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On another note as stated. you'd do best to not call it a paleo diet so to stop the flack & all, especially seeing as you are defying one of its core principles that nearly all seem to adhere to.
Again as stated if you feel better without grains, go for it or experiment with your tolerance or try to find if it is certain grains that cause you to feel this way.

[JBich]

Maybe you could trying Intermittent Fasting with a good deficit in calories. (with protein high, carbs at med and fats low)
Give it a shot

[WonderPug]

protein high, carbs at med and fats low

Why recommend a deficient diet?

[Makween]

What you're doing is cutting out foods which you feel you don't respond well to. That's a sensible step to take. Why call it 'paleo', though? By doing so, you're linking the choices that you've made into a pseudoscientific school of thought which isn't backed up by any real science. If you're only cutting out grains, and you're doing so because you feel that you have issues digesting them, why not just say that?

[naturalguy]

What you're doing is cutting out foods which you feel you don't respond well to. That's a sensible step to take. Why call it 'paleo', though? By doing so, you're linking the choices that you've made into a pseudoscientific school of thought which isn't backed up by any real science. If you're only cutting out grains, and you're doing so because you feel that you have issues digesting them, why not just say that?

That is basically what he is doing. People get hung up on the word "Paleo". He's not arbitrarily cutting things out, there is a purpose.

[koh19]

What you're doing is cutting out foods which you feel you don't respond well to. That's a sensible step to take. Why call it 'paleo', though? By doing so, you're linking the choices that you've made into a pseudoscientific school of thought which isn't backed up by any real science. If you're only cutting out grains, and you're doing so because you feel that you have issues digesting them, why not just say that?

Good point. It's just that I bought Robb Wolf's book and that's really what got me started to try and figure out why I always feel bloated/lethargic when eating grains, which was always the case before.

[koh19]

That is basically what he is doing. People get hung up on the word "Paleo". He's not arbitrarily cutting things out, there is a purpose.

Exactly.

[Makween]

That is basically what he is doing. People get hung up on the word "Paleo". He's not arbitrarily cutting things out, there is a purpose.

...which was my point.

I'm totally confused as to why you've chosen to say this in response to my post.

[naturalguy]

...which was my point.

I'm totally confused as to why you've chosen to say this in response to my post.

Someone early posted that the OP was arbitrarily eliminating grains

[Delgadido]

My doctor has me on a Paleo diet and its great for people with certain food allergies and autoimmune disorders. I have multiple sclerosis and intolerant to dairy and gluten. I also have PCOS/insulin resistance. Not eating soy, dairy, soy, grains, legumes sugar, starches (except yams) etc, and filling up with veggies, some fruits and good quality proteins has done so much for me and my health. I don't believe that we're meant to eat everything just because its sold in a grocery store. If you feel good not eating grains, don't eat it. They're not essential to your health. Some people will never understand that due to their undying need to eat bread, pasta, etc. When you get a chance, read "Wheat Belly" by William Davis, MD.

With that said, you can gain weight on most "diets" and you can gain weight on Paleo. If you eat too much sweets and too many calories, you can still pack on the weight.

People get too hung up on the name Paleo and the theories behind it but if you took away the name and didn't say eat this way because caveman did then it would get a very different reaction.

When you look at it objectively and see that it's about eating quality protein, veggies, fruit and healthy fats, even potatoes how can you argue that is bad????

Look if you feel better on it then by all means continue. For myself there is a big difference in how I feel based on certain foods. You are smart to listen to your body.

Programs like paleo, keto, weight watchers, etc. are all ways to help people control their calories and there is nothing wrong with that. People should not be discouraged from it. Believe it or not, not everyone wants to count calories and "macros bro".

Whatever helps people be consistent and reach their goals is a good thing.

agreed. but we can all agree, that these preachers and missionaries of diets going around harassing everyone are giving it a bad name. Somehow feeling superior because they are on the diet

[dbp]

agreed. but we can all agree, that these preachers and missionaries of diets going around harassing everyone are giving it a bad name. Somehow feeling superior because they are on the diet

I think that's the biggest problem. Most of these new diets aren't inherently bad. I don't think you could ever say that eating quality meat/veggies/fruit is a bad idea.

It's when they take their own scenario and applying it to the rest of humanity that it becomes irksome. People get confused and think they should be restricting foods when they might not have to.