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    It depends on who you ask, generally it means you aren't taking any type of product or substance to increase testosterone or growth hormone levels.
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    No needles.
    Someone who uses protein and creatine or less is a natural in my eyes.
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    On this forum, someone who is not taking a banned substance that would keep you from competing in a natty competition. Check the rules for a few of them to see what that means.
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    I’ve taken Absolutely nothing, not even supplements.
    I get a kick out of knowing that how I look is entirely down to my hard work and good diet.
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    In after Clive, dammit!

    To me, someone's who's natural is someone who doesn't take steroids, pro-hormones, insulin, or TRT/HRT. I suppose you could include creatine in the mix but creatine does not give nearly the effect that the aforementioned compounds give.

    This isn't a dump, by the way, on guys who do take the secret sauce for whatever reason. It's just stating an opinion. Keepin' it real...tellin' it like it is...I've had waaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much coffee....
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    Originally Posted by oldschool5919 View Post
    What is and all natural bodybuilder ?
    Me.



















    Oh wait,you said "bodybuilder".
























    Not me
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    Originally Posted by GuyJin View Post
    I suppose you could include creatine in the mix
    You would die without creatine. Your muscles would stop working.



    I guess you'd die without insulin or testosterone, too. I consider anyone who's never taken any controlled anabolic drugs as natural.
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    Originally Posted by IronCharles View Post
    You would die without creatine. Your muscles would stop working.
    I guess you'd die without insulin or testosterone, too. I consider anyone who's never taken any controlled anabolic drugs as natural.
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    Still splittin' hairs, eh, IC?

    I was talking about exogenous intake as opposed to what your body naturally manufactures but I see your point.
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    I've said this many times before: there is NOTHING "natural" about bodybuilding...really....

    the degrees that we push ourselves, both in training, and in diet, is far from "natural".....

    we are all "UN"natural, in a sense....some just more than others.....

    And any "Natural" out there who won't admit that he has wondered just how he would look if he went to the "dark side", is a liar, me included.....

    just because I haven't juiced doesn't mean that I never wanted to try it and see.....

    So there are some of us, actually most of us, who, for one reason or the other, use restraint....
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    Originally Posted by clive View Post
    i’ve taken absolutely nothing, not even supplements.
    I get a kick out of knowing that how i look is entirely down to my hard work and good diet.
    that is also my definition of all natural.
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    Originally Posted by CLIVE
    I get a kick out of knowing that how i look is entirely down to my hard work and good diet.

    but see, here is my point: what constitutes "HARD WORK"???

    training the way WE do, is beyond "hard", it is often insane......

    and what is natural about a "good diet"

    is it natural or normal to live on chicken breasts all the time? lol...really, take a look at our diets, most of us are obsessed.....

    any and all gains that I have made over the years, is due to EXTREMISM, albeit, not necessarily of an unhealthy, per se, nature, but definitely not the "norm"...
    Lift as MUCH as you can, for as MANY reps as you can,
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    Not me..... i took HOTT STUFF in the late 80's, tried Ultimate orange too!
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    Unless you compete, the term "natural" has little meaning. It's just a term to limit the exogenous enhancement of hormone levels with certain substances and provide fair playing fields for comparison. Much like height and weight and gender.
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    to all just read thread. Thanks for all the clarity ,srs.

    I thought a natural bodybuilding meant he/she was organic, meaning they never use pesticides , were not washed and were more expnsive than other bodybuilders. So thanks again I feel kinda silly
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    Originally Posted by IronCharles View Post
    I consider anyone who's never taken any controlled anabolic drugs as natural.
    There are plenty of legal anabolics that would disqualify someone as natural. When someone invents a new steroid and sells it as a supp, it takes a few years before they classify it as a controlled substance.
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    Originally Posted by ljimd View Post
    Unless you compete, the term "natural" has little meaning. It's just a term to limit the exogenous enhancement of hormone levels with certain substances and provide fair playing fields for comparison. Much like height and weight and gender.

    This all day long.
    Even though I have never taken AAS I never even thought about being "nattie" until I decided to compete.
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    If I use deer antler velvet, am I still natty


    How about if I kill a baby deer.....and proceed to chew his antlers off....what then?
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    Originally Posted by ljimd View Post
    Unless you compete, the term "natural" has little meaning. It's just a term to limit the exogenous enhancement of hormone levels with certain substances and provide fair playing fields for comparison. Much like height and weight and gender.
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    Originally Posted by induced_drag View Post
    If I use deer antler velvet, am I still natty


    How about if I kill a baby deer.....and proceed to chew his antlers off....what then?
    That depends...are you competing and what anti-doping rules does the federation have?
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    Originally Posted by JOHN GARGANI View Post
    I've said this many times before: there is NOTHING "natural" about bodybuilding...really....
    I guess if you look at it this way, then no bodybuilder is natural, as the entire reason for doing it is to put an unnatural amount of muscle on your frame. But I don't think that's what most people think about first when considering the subject of naturalness.

    I also agree that if you have used substances that would disqualify you from a natural bodybuilding contest, then you're not "natural". BUT, the lists of prohibited substances are not identical among the various federations. And some natural federations will let you compete if you've used anabolics in the past, while others require you to have been free of such substances for life.

    There will never be a clear answer to this question. Never has been, in any of the other times this has been brought up, either. But it does make for spirited discussion!
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