The gym I joined is kinda of small with new equipment. They only have a Smith Machine & a couple other machines that you can put the weight on to do bench press & incline bench press. I'm just starting out & was wondering if it is ok to use the smith machine for my bench press?
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Thread: Bench Press on Smith Machine
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04-13-2010, 04:30 PM #1
Bench Press on Smith Machine
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04-13-2010, 04:37 PM #2No brain, no gain.
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04-13-2010, 04:37 PM #3
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04-13-2010, 04:39 PM #4
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04-13-2010, 05:03 PM #5
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04-13-2010, 05:04 PM #6
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04-13-2010, 05:06 PM #7
I'm going to pretend I didn't see that question, LOL.
Anyway, if the Smith machine is all they have, then go for it. It may not be the best thing, but at the end of the day you are still pushing weight, and that's what matters. Go ahead and use it. As long as you keep adding weight you'll get stronger. Just don't think that the weight you use on the Smith will translate exactly to free weights the next time you use them.
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04-13-2010, 05:10 PM #8
You left out dumbbells and barbells, so I assume they don't have these, or they don't have the weights you are looking for (i.e. you want 80s they only have 40s)?
The smith machine is a great option to use, especially if it's your option over traditional machines.Youtube.com/LiftingDad
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04-13-2010, 05:16 PM #9
They have dumb bells & a flat bench but NO barbell. Maybe I can get some pics of what they have. They have a couple of machines like this. A flat & incline one.
http://www.hirepgym.com/images/machi...ch-Press-2.jpgLast edited by FriGuy; 04-13-2010 at 05:29 PM.
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04-13-2010, 06:25 PM #10
1. Do dumbbell bench press then
2. Those are great machines to use, especially because they limit the chance of injury and offer a different angle to hit your chest muscles
I suggest doing a combo Dumbbells + Smith + Hammer Strength (the 'machines' in your link). Start off with flat DB presses, move to Incline hammers, then incline Smiths, down to flat hammers.
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04-13-2010, 06:27 PM #11
i actually love smith machines, and love racks too. in an ideal world, you would have access to both, and leverage machines, and...but in the real world, you make do. i've gotten some super workouts on the smith machine at my local gym, and was dead set on getting one until i realized it wouldn't really match the space and decor of my home gym. so smith away, friend...
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04-13-2010, 06:31 PM #12
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04-14-2010, 03:32 AM #13
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04-14-2010, 08:58 AM #14
Use them all.
It doesn't matter what you use for working your chest: Smith Machine, Cable Machine, Hammer Strength, Dumbbells, Bench Press with Bar, Power Cage, pushups....... they are all beneficial and will give you great results for building a great chest. Yes, some may be better than others but with a range of usage and changing what type of equipment you train on, will still result in progress.
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04-14-2010, 09:11 AM #15
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04-14-2010, 12:39 PM #16
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04-14-2010, 03:25 PM #17
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04-15-2010, 11:10 AM #18
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04-15-2010, 11:43 AM #19
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Actually the barbell bench press is probably the least effective exercise to isolate and develope the chest out of that group of exercises. I'd have to say d/bell benches first, the smith second, and b/bell benches last out of that grouping to develope the middle chest area. I'd go the same order on a 30 degree incline benchfor developing the upper pecs, and for lower pecs I'd go dips, d/bell declines and then b/bell declines. You're going to get a better ROM and contraction with d/bells than with b/bells. The smith will let you isolate the chest on a fixed plane better than a b/bell bench press.
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04-15-2010, 12:02 PM #20
I use the smith machine myself, but I am also short, but I think it all has to do with the bench positioning under the bar. You just have to keep working with it to get the best position for your type of workout. I love my machine. I also bought some free hand weights and mys on has a lighter barbell to use so I also use that as well, but with free hand stuff, I don't have the spotter like I do on smith machine. I am careful and I have my son to help spot me when I lift the weights. Sometimes you just have to improvise, but make sure you do the exercises with proper form and use what weight is best for you.
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04-15-2010, 12:05 PM #21
I have been using mine since January 1st of this year, I love it and I have lost over 30 lbs now. I am going to continue using it and I do most all exercises on the machine except for the free weights. What kind of weights do you have on yours and what is the largest weight you have? The largest on mine is 35 and it has 35 lbs barbell.
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04-15-2010, 12:11 PM #22No brain, no gain.
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04-19-2010, 01:04 PM #23
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04-19-2010, 09:24 PM #24
Incline press on a smith is a good movement. Great feel and stretch. But I wouldn't use it as a primary movement. I've used it in the past as more of an finishing/burnout exercise.
Flat bench press wouldn't be a good idea because the natural motion of the flat bench is in an arc, not straight up and down. Never tried shoulder press. Have done some squats but the same issues are present as with flat bench, it's not a straight up and down movement.
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04-20-2010, 03:39 AM #25
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04-20-2010, 03:52 AM #26
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the smith is good for u for two reasons...
1. being a beginner it will force u to use proper form n range
2. working out alone u can still load up on plates without a spot n not hafta worry about safety
...ive always liked the smith machine for lifting without a spotter for these reasons. got one in my home gym n use it consistently. a lotta guys will hate on it, but in the end it not only serves its purpose but it will give u a little more confidence that u can add weight without the worry of not having a spotter to pull it off u for that extra repSUPPORT YOUR LOCAL FISTFIGHT
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04-20-2010, 04:33 AM #27
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04-20-2010, 04:35 AM #28
^Disagree with everything posted here.
The smith doesn't force good ROM or form. It actually forces a fixed path for the bar to travel which is NOT ideal. As far as safety, you are as safe if not moreso in a power rack. With the smith you have to rack the weight by twisting the bar, in a rack if you fail the weight lands on the safeties.
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04-20-2010, 06:17 AM #29
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my chest is still pumped for yesterday evening training on my smith machine .I like the strictness of motion and complete safety that machine offers me ,never mind the fact the jones machine incorporates backwards and forward motion as well.Free weights are good as well ie dumbell press and flyes, i don't train everything on a smith machine but its a very usefull piece of gym equipment .
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04-20-2010, 06:18 AM #30
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In reading the post below this of yours it's pretty obvious you're not pro smith. That's fine, we'll have to agree to disagree. The bench press is very much anterior delt and tricep intensive. Look at the range of motion and the contraction between a d/bell bench or even a Hammer Strength machine and a b/bell bench. The contraction at the top of the movement is far more intensive with the d/bell than a b/bell. The natural motion of the bench being arched or curved is more of the powerlifting style or "J" press. This does all it can to take the actual pecs out of the movement. The powerlifter has his elbows more tucked into the sides and lowers the bar to a very low point on the abdomen. The bodybuilding style has the elbows more out away from the body and the bar is lowered to the nipple line or higher. Vince Gironda hated traditional flat benching and instead relied on neck presses in a smith machine. These are intense and offer a great stretch. If you want to isolate the pecs try d/bell benching with your feet in the air. You'll be using a lighter weight but truly isolating the pecs. If you want to have a big bench press number or are preparing for the NFL combine where strength somehow is gauged by how many times a prospect can bench 225 then by all means concentrate soley on the flat bench press and all other movements are ancillary.
Possibly many old time bodybuilders would have said that the flat b/bell bench is essential in building a big chest due to a lack of options. Most of what I've read said many of them relied upon breathing squats supersetted with pullovers to expand their rib cages thereby building larger chests."It is my own fault for replying in a smith thread." deadwoodgregg
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