without them you just look like an awkward stocky retard meat head from jersey shore
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you cant even compare those two tho. zyzz has better insertions all over the place. better chest, better traps, better abs, better delts and a lower bf%
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I die a little inside when people say a big waist ruins it... I have a big waist and rib cage, makes me feel like I'll never have a truly aesthetic physique I've been trying to hit my shoulders, traps, lats and legs hard to try and give the illusion that my waist is small but it's going to take years for me to build enough mass to actually achieve that.
Ah well, won't stop me from trying.
For those that naturally managed to get them round looking shoulders with them joocy side delts, what was your shoulder routine like? (I know genetics are important too)
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lean forward 10-20 degrees with dumbbells in front of your D, stabilise core, lift them up sideways with arms very very slightly bent (don't want to turn into a hammer curl exercise), turn the dumbbells inwards as they come up as if you are pouring 2 kettles of semen onto yourself. 5-7 sets of this and keep increasing weight/reps.
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Not that I have amazing delts or anything but i pretty much had 0 side delts when i started lifting...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2_ByCapc7I
besides all the lateral raises he does like a half arnold press in a video (can't find it) where he starts with dumbells together at your chest palms inward, then turn it into a lateral raise but really try and turn your elbows upward so they are above shoulder height.
Cutler also does the majority of his lateral raises on cables both in front and behind your legs starting positionHe who is brave is free
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