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    Exclamation ***Official Nootropics Thread***

    There has been multiple nootropics threads made in the last few days, xLGx and I thought that I'd be a good idea to put an official thread together to help answer questions and give out some advice to those who havent used nootropics before.

    If you have anything related to nootropics to ask or share, do it! xLGx and I will help out as best we can, along with any other members that are willing to share some knowledge and/or experiences.
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    yes current noots dimiurge, noopept, and focus xt nom nom
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    This is certainly needed with the daily discussions of Nootropics.
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    Originally Posted by Outside backer View Post
    yes current noots dimiurge, noopept, and focus xt nom nom
    How many mg do you take of demiurge? Phenylpiracetam is incredibly expensive and impossible to find
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    1 gram of PEA is my go to. Thoughts?
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    Originally Posted by gymrat53 View Post
    1 gram of PEA is my go to. Thoughts?
    Never really saw any benefit in taking it as a nootropic IMO, it has a pretty short half life. Only time I ever felt anything was if I took large doses on an empty stomach around 1.5g and that just gave me a really heavy buzz.

    Edit: damn you and your sarcasm
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    Originally Posted by tmd17 View Post
    Never really saw any benefit in taking it as a nootropic IMO, it has a pretty short half life. Only time I ever felt anything was if I took large doses on an empty stomach around 1.5g and that just gave me a really heavy buzz.
    Haha I was kidding brah. Cool thread idea, I need to look into nootropics some more only ever really dabbled with Focus XT.
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    This is certainly needed with the daily discussions of Nootropics.
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    Haha I was kidding brah. Cool thread idea, I need to look into nootropics some more only ever really dabbled with Focus XT.
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    Hey everyone I just had a question, I know as long at your noot of choice has a COA you are pretty much good to go but has anybody ever noticed a difference in quality if purchased from different vendors? I don't know if it was just a cumulative effect or an actual difference while using from one source over another. Thanks for any feedback.
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    What is a new tropick?

    Thanks for making this, tmd. Shall be epic and informative.

    I'll start it off by saying if you are new to nootropics, a good starting stack would be SNS Focus XT + 1g ALCAR. Personally, I like to have a bottle of SNS ALCAR-500 for this purpose [even though you can probably find bulk ALCAR cheaper with other brands].
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    Originally Posted by gymrat53 View Post
    Haha I was kidding brah. Cool thread idea, I need to look into nootropics some more only ever really dabbled with Focus XT.
    I was kidding too.......

    Haha damn it.

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    What is a new tropick?

    Thanks for making this, tmd. Shall be epic and informative.
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    Has anyone weighed capped Aniracetam bought from SP? I don't have a milligram scale to do so myself, and I feel that the amount per cap cannot be correct.
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    Plan to take focus xt stim free and 1gram of alcar. Or can i change alcar to noopept by ctd labs? What do you think guys? Or im doin too much?
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    Originally Posted by Elliptical Envy View Post
    Has anyone weighed capped Aniracetam bought from SP? I don't have a milligram scale to do so myself, and I feel that the amount per cap cannot be correct.
    Frankly, the powder has no taste. Bulk sulbutiamine on the other hand kicks rocks.

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    Plan to take focus xt stim free and 1gram of alcar. Or can i change alcar to noopept by ctd labs? What do you think guys? Or im doin too much?
    Depends what you want to use it for? ALCAR has more acute effects, noopept is a racetam which effects increase with prolonged supplementation. If you are planning on taking it everyday I would choose a racetam over ALCAR (although ALCAR is great stacked with racetams as well). IMO there are better racetam options other than noopept, I didnt feel it was extremely effective. Pramiracetam, Oxiracetam, Aniracetam are the most popular. If you just plan on taking it here and there for studying, workouts etc, ALCAR and focus xt is an awesome combo.
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    Alryr tnx for the informative bro, il try those two focus xt and alcar. Should i dose 1gram of alcar? Since focus xt already had alcar. Im doin this for workout and good mood effect for the whole day, can it be last for how many hours? If you already tried this?
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    I wish that coluractam and phenylpiracetam were more widely available and far more cost effective.

    So far i have only used Piracetam at low doses 1.5-2g for about a 6 week period and didnt feel much except maybe a slight increase in focus. Also used Noopept as well with a slightly better experience. That was when i was first reading about nootropics in general.

    Now that Ive done more research I kinda wish i would have tried higher and more frequent dosages for the piracetam.... Getting ready to pull the trigger on another batch and wondering if i should give pira another shot or try out a different one.
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    Originally Posted by jeffie28 View Post
    Alryr tnx for the informative bro, il try those two focus xt and alcar. Should i dose 1gram of alcar? Since focus xt already had alcar. Im doin this for workout and good mood effect for the whole day, can it be last for how many hours? If you already tried this?
    The half life of alcar is about 6 hours, so the effects will last a good portion of the day. I dont have any focus xt on hand right now, but I've tried the two in the past and loved it.
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    Alryt tnx bro, i think il go for that combo, since im beginner to nootropic. How did you dose your alcar? 1grma or just 500mg
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    Alryt tnx bro, i think il go for that combo, since im beginner to nootropic. How did you dose your alcar? 1grma or just 500mg
    Couldnt hurt to start out at 500mg to see how you respond and go up from there. Ideally, I'd take 2g alcar preworkout standalone. When stacked with focus xt I would take 1g.
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    I wish that coluractam and phenylpiracetam were more widely available and far more cost effective.

    So far i have only used Piracetam at low doses 1.5-2g for about a 6 week period and didnt feel much except maybe a slight increase in focus. Also used Noopept as well with a slightly better experience. That was when i was first reading about nootropics in general.

    Now that Ive done more research I kinda wish i would have tried higher and more frequent dosages for the piracetam.... Getting ready to pull the trigger on another batch and wondering if i should give pira another shot or try out a different one.
    Honestly, I've found piracetam a waste of time. Pram would probably be of higher worth to you.

    I'm also researching CILTEP stack, which users seem to have great results with. To sum it up in a nutshell, it requires 3 ingredients:
    - PDE4 Inhibitor: Artichoke Extract, Quercetin
    - cAMP Increaser: Forskolin
    - Dopamine Increaser: L-Pheynylalanine, Caffeine, Ginko

    I think CILTEP + ALCAR + Pram/Ani would be a sick combination.

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    Alryt tnx bro, i think il go for that combo, since im beginner to nootropic. How did you dose your alcar? 1grma or just 500mg
    Originally Posted by tmd17 View Post
    Couldnt hurt to start out at 500mg to see how you respond and go up from there. Ideally, I'd take 2g alcar preworkout standalone. When stacked with focus xt I would take 1g.
    This. I haven't seen a real need to go over 2g a day. On workout days, I'll take 1sc Focus XT + 1g ALCAR. If I'm not taking FXT that day, I'll do 2g ALCAR. On non-workout days, I'll split the dose 1/1 in morning and late afternoon.
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    On nonwrkout days, do you prefer take on empty stomoch on alcar?
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    Originally Posted by jeffie28 View Post
    On nonwrkout days, do you prefer take on empty stomoch on alcar?
    I do, yes. Right upon waking, then hop in the shower.
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    Taking daily of alcar 1gram a day. Is it possilbe that you build tolerance?
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    Originally Posted by jeffie28 View Post
    Taking daily of alcar 1gram a day. Is it possilbe that you build tolerance?
    As per Rhadam's suggestion to me awhile back, I cycle off for a month after three months of continued use. Some will say you don't need to, but I can't seem to find the study that he linked me to.
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