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    Originally Posted by DannySampsonite View Post
    CNS stimulation, increased tolerance to sleep deprivation/fatigue/cold temperatures, improved memory formation and recall, and improved performance under stress.
    And this.
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    Originally Posted by DannySampsonite View Post
    It causes mild CNS stimulation
    The degree of CNS stimulation definitely reflects the dose.
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    Originally Posted by NO HYPE View Post
    You just nailed it in terms of my experience with it. The degree of focus/determination carphedon elicits is unmatched [and even more so with a stimulant of choice]. Likewise my degree of speed & accuracy was untouchable when performing various physical tasks. But damn, your comment reguarding irritability really caught me off guard, as I never really looked at it from that perspective. I mean, I was fine when that focus was not interrupted, but when it was.... it felt like I was ready to go to war - minus the M-4 of course.
    one day I was in the office and I was studying for promotion, work was slow. I got tasked with some menail BS to get squared away, normally it woulda been whatever I wasnt doing anything anyway, but that day you would swear someone banged my wife. I was pissed, it happend 2 more times since then, now Im careful of my setting when I take it ahah
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    Originally Posted by Outside backer View Post
    one day I was in the office and I was studying for promotion, work was slow. I got tasked with some menail BS to get squared away, normally it woulda been whatever I wasnt doing anything anyway, but that day you would swear someone banged my wife. I was pissed, it happend 2 more times since then, now Im careful of my setting when I take it ahah
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    Caffeine (Coffee bro)
    Craze
    CitiColine (Haven't figured out a good dose yet, tried 500mg, 1g, 250mg thus far) - **** is stupid expensive
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    That pretty much sums up what I dabble in. I usually only have " 1 heavy " usage week out of each month.
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    Originally Posted by Daycrawler View Post
    Caffeine (Coffee bro)
    Craze
    CitiColine (Haven't figured out a good dose yet, tried 500mg, 1g, 250mg thus far) - **** is stupid expensive
    Oxiracetam
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    That pretty much sums up what I dabble in. I usually only have " 1 heavy " usage week out of each month.
    Really interested at trying some Citicoline in the future. ~1g daily.
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    Originally Posted by Diesel0022 View Post
    I attribute mood with libido

    Aniracetam, choline, tribulus, alcar
    Would DHEA be a good addition to this?
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    Originally Posted by Diesel0022 View Post
    I attribute mood with libido
    try forslean+iccarrin.

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    ended up ordering a little sampler pack for myself. About two weeks worth of the four main ones to get a good idea of what i respond best to and enough to play around with stacking.

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    Originally Posted by Black_Label View Post
    I miss CognitiveNutrition. That is all.
    The member or the site?
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    Originally Posted by DannySampsonite View Post
    30mg Hup A would kill you
    Woah my mistake, just got back to my room and its actually 100mcg. I wrote that post in the library and couldnt remember the exact dosing I used.
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    Originally Posted by tmd17 View Post
    Woah my mistake, just got back to my room and its actually 100mcg. I wrote that post in the library and couldnt remember the exact dosing I used.
    Was going to say i remember reading the dosage in mcg. I had a guy ask me once if it came in bulk powder........bertstare.jpg
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    Originally Posted by Elliptical Envy View Post
    The member or the site?
    hmmm. both, but more the person.

    did i miss some drama with him?
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    Originally Posted by Black_Label View Post
    hmmm. both, but more the person.

    did i miss some drama with him?
    Not that I am aware of. Steve was a pretty cool guy, and he sent me lots of stuff to play with. Those were the days
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    Been thinking about getting a little nootropic stack going. Could you suggest one for mood, memory and just that overall feeling of well being.
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    Originally Posted by RichL1982 View Post
    Been thinking about getting a little nootropic stack going. Could you suggest one for mood, memory and just that overall feeling of well being.
    You have a bunch of options. From personal experience aniracetam is great for boosting mood, boosting creativity, anti-anxiety. Oxiracetam provides powerful memory support, so does ALCAR. IMO pramiracetam is the best racetam to build a stack around, it potentiates other racetams extremely well.

    I've never tried it, but xLGx and some others have mentioned that picamilon is really effective at improving mood.
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    Originally Posted by tmd17 View Post
    I've never tried it, but xLGx and some others have mentioned that picamilon is really effective at improving mood.
    Granted it wasn't my personal anecdotal experience, but a friend who is somewhat of a veteran with noots. I'll try it out myself and report back here.

    Originally Posted by Outside backer View Post
    Pica huh. I've had a bottle of this sitting here from SNS for awehile maybe ill try that
    Let me know. My friend was overwhelmed by it and loved it. His experience has got me interested to pull the trigger, but yours might just seal the deal.

    HOWEVER.... he was also using Ashwagandha, which can improve mood from supplementation as well. I love that stuff, too.
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    what do you guys think about this?

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2687891/

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    Not sure if anybody has tried it but does Prami powder have a taste? Or is it one of those that should definitely be capped?
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    Originally Posted by eatyourspinach View Post
    Not sure if anybody has tried it but does Prami powder have a taste? Or is it one of those that should definitely be capped?
    lol, by far the most painful to take nootropic taste-wise
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    Oxi wasnt bad. It was kind of sweet and i could even hold it under my tongue
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    Originally Posted by eatyourspinach View Post
    Not sure if anybody has tried it but does Prami powder have a taste? Or is it one of those that should definitely be capped?
    I would rather eat a scorpion morouga pepper than be forced to put one grain of pram on my tongue.
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    Originally Posted by WheytWut92 View Post
    what do you guys think about this?

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2687891/

    should we take it easy on the choline?
    Did not read. Saw the words 'pediatric' and 'major depression', and stopped there.
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    Lol thanks for the info wish I had asked someone before I tried sulbutiamine powder. I just asked because I know Oxi doesn't taste bad really, Noopept isn't pleasant but after sulbutiamine it was no problem for me lol.
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    Originally Posted by WheytWut92 View Post
    what do you guys think about this?

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2687891/

    should we take it easy on the choline?
    Not relevent. Those could be people with predisposed problems. The term Depression is also too vague and is thrown around willy nilly when diagnosing patients
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    Originally Posted by Outside backer View Post
    Got me some of dat dere ani coming
    I've been getting brain fog with Ani and on the days I'm not brain fogged, I feel "spacey". I've replaced it with Ashwagandha for mood/anxiety. I'm going to start a CILTEP stack and possibly add Prami to it.
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    Originally Posted by xLGx View Post
    I've been getting brain fog with Ani and on the days I'm not brain fogged, I feel "spacey". I've replaced it with Ashwagandha for mood/anxiety. I'm going to start a CILTEP stack and possibly add Prami to it.
    What were you dosing it at, and alongside what else? What is the CILTEP stack, I am too lazy to google search. Prami is interesting stuff, had trouble dialing in the right dose
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