Perhaps you just don't read history. Iraq had them in the late 80's and early 90's and they used them on the Kurds. Why would any rational person not think they could have ramped this all back up. What part of that is too freaking complicated for you?
Honestly you're starting to really peeve me off so I'm done with this before I get myself banned.
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01-31-2013, 06:10 AM #31
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01-31-2013, 06:12 AM #32
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01-31-2013, 06:15 AM #33
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01-31-2013, 06:26 AM #34
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01-31-2013, 06:28 AM #35
And I'm thankful for that and I hate political correctness. I never served but I saw what happened to many of my friends when they returned from Viet Nam. You can hate the war but you damn sure can't hate the soldiers/marines/airmen who served. Personally, I think the "Support the Troops" movement stems from the national shame at the way troops were treated in the 60s-70s.
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01-31-2013, 06:35 AM #36
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01-31-2013, 06:37 AM #37
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01-31-2013, 06:50 AM #38
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01-31-2013, 07:00 AM #39
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I guess clicking on a link and watching a video is too complicated for you. When the Bush administration officials themselves admit they were wrong about the WMDs, it's time to accept the truth. When the intelligence sources in Iraq admit they lied about it all along, it's time to admit that the whole thing was a mistake. Are guys like Colin Powell and Donald Rumsfeld in on some liberal conspiracy now? Here's a direct quote from Rumsfeld's book:
"Powell was not duped or misled by anybody, nor did he lie about Saddam's suspected WMD stockpiles. The President did not lie. The Vice President did not lie. Tenet did not lie. Rice did not lie. I did not lie. The Congress did not lie. The far less dramatic truth is that we were wrong."
Yes, eomrat is a special snowflake. His military service means he's always right, and a history of military service is an acceptable excuse for being a dick. Right?
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01-31-2013, 07:02 AM #40
He and you are both correct, but regardless if you feel you or any serviceman or woman think thanks and respect is deserved or not, it is given. Because ALL people who volunteer to serve this country deserves it. I know many families that have husbands/wives serving and I know they do not do it for the money.
LOL I think you and I had this conversation recently, you know how fiercely loyal I am to our soldiers and our country Sowwy I can't help it.
Sorry ACC but the title of this topic and the story is also considered gore and vulgar. So the entire thread should then be deleted? Gore is not only visual but with descriptive words as well. You don't want Nazi style censorship now do you?
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01-31-2013, 07:07 AM #41
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01-31-2013, 07:23 AM #42
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The op did not post gore, the op posted a question based on sensationalistic media. I found the topic amusing.
As far as censorship... this is laughable as myself and a few others were specifically told not to post in a specific thread in the motivational section. Not only that, but some comments were deleted. I didn't see you write anything in defense of censor ship at that point.... though I get it, not my board. I had no issues complying.
This... it is a privately owned board, as someone who used to be a mod, you should know that the first Amendment right does not apply here. There is a reason that we can't post porn here.
Personally, I don't care for censorship... I really don't. This is one of those exceptions I take issue with. I find it disturbing on a very personal level, and I would have thought EOM would have at least taken it down out of courtesy. I am not asking for him to be banned, just the pics removed.Last edited by acrawlingchaos; 01-31-2013 at 07:30 AM.
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01-31-2013, 07:28 AM #43
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01-31-2013, 07:36 AM #44
You took a comment I made in jest and blew it out of proportion and then called in reinforcements Chill life is to short to walk around so wound up all the time. Trust me I know.
Anyway carry on, I have stated my opinion and anything further will be redundant.
Have a truly wonderful day ACC and if you are in the frozen north try and stay warm
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01-31-2013, 07:41 AM #45
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01-31-2013, 08:08 AM #46
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01-31-2013, 12:41 PM #47
An entire division of Russian chemical warfare troops sanitized Iraq. Bernie Goldberg brings this up now and then. They finished shortly before the air war started. The Iraqi chem/bio weapons that were left were shipped to the Bekaa valley in Lebanon. This made the news cycle for only 24hrs. Thank you, Statist Religious press....
I'll take arrogance and the inevitable hubris over self-doubt and lack of confidence, anyday.......
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01-31-2013, 01:19 PM #48
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01-31-2013, 01:56 PM #49
It was covered, hence the 24hr. statement. I suggest you try the "search" function on your computer...
It received the same amount of attention as, oh say, the story about the Clinton's administration's falsification of the last two quarter's of economic data in order to help Gore's chances of election...I'll take arrogance and the inevitable hubris over self-doubt and lack of confidence, anyday.......
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01-31-2013, 01:59 PM #50
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01-31-2013, 02:23 PM #51
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If there was any doubt left, I'd think President Bush would be the last one to hold out hope that we'd find the missing WMDs.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2008/...4B071020081201
"The biggest regret of all the presidency has to have been the intelligence failure in Iraq. A lot of people put their reputations on the line and said the weapons of mass destruction is a reason to remove Saddam Hussein" - George W. Bush
It doesn't matter how much evidence there is; people will go to their graves believing the lies that were proven false. That was my point all along. That's how public opinion works.
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01-31-2013, 02:55 PM #52
WMDs were not there because they were removed. The intelligence failure was that either that fact was not reported, or that it was ignored, allowing the invasion to go forward anyway, without the WMD justification. If the latter, it was similar to Germany's final decision to go to war in 1914...
I'll take arrogance and the inevitable hubris over self-doubt and lack of confidence, anyday.......
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01-31-2013, 08:31 PM #54
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If that's what you believe, I should respect that. I'm never going to convince you, and you're never going to convince me unless some new evidence comes out. I think we can agree to disagree.
I'd like to apologize to you, Old Time Lifter, and especially eomrat. I have some strong personal political beliefs, but sometimes I get so caught up in arguing a point that I make an ass of myself. I shouldn't have brought up such a loaded emotional topic in a thread about North Korea. I just need to disengage and let some sh*t go. Arguing about politics the way I've been doing it, especially on a bodybuilding site, is just as useful as criticizing someone's religious beliefs. It's stupid, and I regret it every time. I need to join Political Debating Anonymous or something.
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02-01-2013, 01:13 AM #55
I do not wish to and will not comment on the political discussion here.
I will say that I did not join this site to see pics of dead people,especially dead children. If I wanted to do that I could go elsewhere,which I have no interest in doing anyway.
Some might say don't look,but the pics were in the thread with no warning.
Recently there was a pic of a toy bunny clapping cymbals deleted.
Yet pics of dead children are still here for f#ck sake.
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02-01-2013, 03:40 AM #56
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To be fair, I ended up not reporting it. If sick people want to post sick sh*t, that's on them. It's just shows what kind of person they are... what they're made of.
I believe if we were posting pictures of slain U.S. combatants strewn unceremoniously across the ground, the outrage would have been different.
Carry on with your valuable education EOM...
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02-01-2013, 06:04 AM #57
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I'm overly emotional about it too. I haven't been in the Army since 95, but I still have friends in the service today. I've seen what the war did to some of them. I have my own anger issues, but that anger is directed at the people responsible for starting the war. It's over now anyway. There's no point in me arguing over what could have been done differently 10 years ago. That never changes anyone's mind or accomplishes anything. That just gets everyone angry at each other.
I'm just done with it. I am hereby banning myself from future political arguments here on bodybuilding.com. I'll unban myself if and when they change the rules that ban the discussion of certain issues today.
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02-01-2013, 06:24 AM #58
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02-01-2013, 06:36 AM #59
Here's what I'm talking about:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WMD_con...vasion_of_Iraq
Now you can see how this directly relates to what is happening in Syria today...Last edited by KLMARB; 02-01-2013 at 06:47 AM.
I'll take arrogance and the inevitable hubris over self-doubt and lack of confidence, anyday.......
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02-03-2013, 04:29 AM #60
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