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    Originally Posted by EssexBrah View Post
    maybe the point was to be over an area in which there was no laws against it? therefore could not be prosecuted if caught, i don't even know if killing someone is legal anywhere so i'm probably talking shet
    If the government is doing it, it tends to be legal. If they want to dispose of the bodies afterward they can just burn them. I know waaaaaaayyyy too much about South American dictators.....
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    Originally Posted by bluebeltATT View Post
    So this is how gun control works?

    Remove guns from law abiding citizens to make it easier for criminals to kill??

    Logic, how does it work?
    No the idea is to choke the gun supply so it's more difficult for criminals to obtain them.

    Common sense, not even once.
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    Originally Posted by hzx View Post
    I listen to rap and played violent video games growing up and I have no desire to shoot kids on the street. How are they to blame ?
    You do not represent the many millions of people who grew up around rap and violent video games.
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    but who was criminal?
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    In Chicago these types of gun deaths are only in predominately black neighborhoods. The suburbs don't have these problems. Thug gang mentality.
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    Originally Posted by rbsx View Post
    No the idea is to choke the gun supply so it's more difficult for criminals to obtain them.

    Common sense, not even once.
    you think the criminals aquire their guns legally? even if you reduce the supply, there will always be a black market to cater to the demand.

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    Originally Posted by bluebeltATT View Post
    Laws only work if people are going to follow them. How reasonable are the politicians that think by passing more stricter gun laws, the criminals are going to follow them???

    Strong unreasonable way of thought
    Has someone stolen something? Yes. Therefore there should be no laws about theft, because criminals clearly aren't going to follow them. Has there been corporate fraud? Yes. Therefore there should be no laws about corporate fraud, because criminals clearly aren't going to follow them.

    Strong unreasonable way of thought...Lmao. What are you, a ****ing anarchist?
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    Originally Posted by TotalGymFreak View Post
    You do not represent the many millions of people who grew up around rap and violent video games.
    10/10 argument
    There are millions upon millions more who can do both and still make the distinction from real life and fantasy. Again, the tool/product is not to blame. It is the way people associate with these things. social/cultural reform.
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    Originally Posted by TotalGymFreak View Post
    You do not represent the many millions of people who grew up around rap and violent video games.
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    Obviously a fake story. I know this because Chicago has strict gun control which doesn't let stuff like this happen.

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    Originally Posted by EssexBrah View Post
    He didn't say gun crime would cease to exist, he said there would be much less gun crime which is probably right.
    How does banning legal gun ownership.......prevent use of illegal guns by criminals?

    Legalizing drugs is what should be done.
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    Originally Posted by TaeBoNinja View Post
    How does banning legal gun ownership.......prevent use of illegal guns by criminals?

    Legalizing drugs is what should be done.
    Because with less guns in the country, it means there is less guns for criminals to use, which means there will be less gun crime, can you not understand this?

    and i agree, i'm all for drug legalisation.

    I'm pro-gun myself, i'm just teaching you something called logic.
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    Originally Posted by rbsx View Post
    No the idea is to choke the gun supply so it's more difficult for criminals to obtain them.

    Common sense, not even once.
    With 300 million guns in America already and many more that could be smuggled across borders, you're not about to choke any supply any time soon with any knee-jerk laws
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    Originally Posted by MrB1g View Post
    Has someone stolen something? Yes. Therefore there should be no laws about theft, because criminals clearly aren't going to follow them. Has there been corporate fraud? Yes. Therefore there should be no laws about corporate fraud, because criminals clearly aren't going to follow them.

    Strong unreasonable way of thought...Lmao.
    Doesn't make sense. Theft and fraud are illegal regardless of who does it.

    Ownership of firearms isn't illegal by the over whelming majority of gun owners.

    I think there should be extremely strict penalties for felons in possession of firearms. None of this probation sh!t or serving a year or two for being in possession. The penalty should also add 10 years minimum if a firearm was used during a crime. Penalty for crime plus 10 years for firearm.

    People using firearms ILLEGALLY are what give the good gun owners a bad name.
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    Originally Posted by EssexBrah View Post
    Because with less guns in the country, it means there is less guns for criminals to use, which means there will be less gun crime, can you not understand this?

    Yeah, that worked in Mexico...
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    Originally Posted by EssexBrah View Post
    maybe the point was to be over an area in which there was no laws against it? therefore could not be prosecuted if caught, i don't even know if killing someone is legal anywhere so i'm probably talking shet
    I dont know either but maybe if they execute someone in the airspace of a country they dont have a extradition treaty with then you dont have to worry about your country sending you there for murder, if you get me.
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    Originally Posted by EssexBrah View Post
    Because with less guns in the country, it means there is less guns for criminals to use, which means there will be less gun crime, can you not understand this?

    and i agree, i'm all for drug legalisation.
    Again, you don't seem to understand the situation. ILLEGAL guns are being used for crimes. Do you think gang bangers are registering guns legally? With the drug war these gangs makes $$$$ selling, so they can afford to buy guns in the black market. We have a huge border where this happens.

    So no, the only people this would hurt are those who want to protect themselves in their home. We have had guns in America since it began. The issue isn't gun ownership, but the drug war which dumped billions to the criminal underground.

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    Originally Posted by ToPHeR35 View Post
    Yeah, that worked in Mexico...
    Its kind of hard to control guns in a corrupt country which borders a country which creates the most amount of firearms in the world.

    BUT if you look at countries in Europe then my argument is correct.
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    Originally Posted by Bassackwards View Post
    you think the criminals aquire their guns legally? even if you reduce the supply, there will always be a black market to cater to the demand.

    Common sense, not even twice
    No - what I think is that they acquire guns illegally that were originally acquired legally, primarily through theft.

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    Originally Posted by bluebeltATT View Post
    So this is how gun control works?

    Remove guns from law abiding citizens to make it easier for criminals to kill??

    Logic, how does it work?


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    Originally Posted by EssexBrah View Post
    Its kind of hard to control guns in a corrupt country which borders a country which creates the most amount of firearms in the world.
    That doesn't matter. Your argument was less guns in a country = less gun violence. Mexico banned guns and that did nothing. Your comment about bordering with the US is irrelevant.
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    Very sad for the innocent girl to die.

    I'm sorry, but isn't this a reason for all of us to BE armed?
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    Originally Posted by rbsx View Post
    No - what I think is that they acquire guns illegally that were originally acquired legally, primarily through theft.

    If they are never purchased to start off with they aren't able to be stolen retard.
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    What do you suggest we do with the guns already in circulation in the US then?
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    Originally Posted by TaeBoNinja View Post
    Again, you don't seem to understand the situation. ILLEGAL guns are being used for crimes. Do you think gang bangers are registering guns legally? With the drug war these gangs makes $$$$ selling, so they can afford to buy guns in the black market. We have a huge border where this happens.

    So no, the only people this would hurt are those who want to protect themselves in their home. We have had guns in America since it began. The issue isn't gun ownership, but the drug war which dumped billions to the criminal underground.

    brb thinking you can ban guns when we can't even stop drugs or illegal immigrants
    But the guns are easily obtained illegally because the guns are MADE in your country, if your country stopped producing guns then the gun numbers would eventually decrease, this is all i'm saying, of course you can never get rid of gun crime, but you can reduce it.
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    never understood how a city having gun control stops you from getting guns from any of the other 500000 towns in the US.
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    Originally Posted by EssexBrah View Post
    But the guns are easily obtained illegally because the guns are MADE in your country, if your country stopped producing guns then the gun numbers would eventually decrease, this is all i'm saying, of course you can never get rid of gun crime, but you can reduce it.
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    It seems to me like the real problem (in this particular case) is the allure of gang violence. I'd like to see the police monitor gang related activity and knock off problematic gang members one by one, until it is no longer popular to be a violent gang member.

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    That girl that was shot happened right in front of a friend of mine. He saw the look in her eyes as she grabbed her chest and went down. That's not something he'll ever forget. The community needs to take responsibility instead of expecting someone else to do something. The answer isn't more gun control laws, it's being parents to your kids and actually giving a damn about them.
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