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    he would look like gunter witha smaller wiast and bigger arms traps and back. Arnold is the ultimate alpha he would do what ever it would take to beat the other guys, luckily he was blessed with sick genetics.
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    Originally Posted by jld010 View Post
    Did you even watch the Olympia 93???????
    A man's structure doesn't change between shows dumbass.
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    Originally Posted by Groggery View Post
    A man's structure doesn't change between shows dumbass.
    i have no idea what u on abt. Is that pic from Olympia 92 and you implying with your pic that he looks great in it, and that at Olympia 93, his structure couldnt possibly change in 1 year from 92 to 93?

    Yes, his structure couldnt change in that period, but did you watch the 93 olympia. He looked dreadful, and you trying to prove a point by posting a pic like that is moronic.
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    Originally Posted by jld010 View Post
    Yes, his structure couldnt change in that period, but did you watch the 93 olympia. He looked dreadful, and you trying to prove a point by posting a pic like that is moronic.
    Just holding people to account on the stupid **** they say. Calves gone wrong? Ok. Horrible structure? Now you went full retard.

    I've seen the pics, he has small quads, so? Is that "dreadful"?
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    jld010 by far the worse poster on here.


    constantly obsession with genetics tho i'm not even sure he full understands what it means or even understands that the drugs use amonst other things had changed dramatically from the early 80's to 90's.
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    Originally Posted by Groggery View Post
    Just holding people to account on the stupid **** they say. Calves gone wrong? Ok. Horrible structure? Now you went full retard.

    I've seen the pics, he has small quads, so? Is that "dreadful"?
    well , you havent seen the vid, so really just keep quiet. if you think that physique was worthy of 10th place then you my friend are a pure moron. And you Raz, pointing out the fact that drugs have advanced. Has anyone disputed that point? Why did you type that, you trying to get someone to call you names? You dangerously close to that point,
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    Originally Posted by jld010 View Post
    if you think that physique was worthy of 10th place then you my friend are a pure moron.
    Point me in the direction of anyone besides Milos at that stage that should have moved up a space. You're just mad your lump of godly genetics placed 6th.
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    Originally Posted by Groggery View Post
    Point me in the direction of anyone besides Milos at that stage that should have moved up a space. You're just mad your lump of godly genetics placed 6th.
    Marsh, Mcneil, Marrazzo(who placed 6th at the AC that year), ....you phuckin moron...trust me on this. Also, im pretty sure Labrada got told to retire, as Weider had his next crop of Weider superstars contracted. Its so obvious, but you an idiot, so you will probably point out that its all just conspiracy bullchit on my part.
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    Originally Posted by jld010 View Post
    Marsh, Mcneil, Marrazzo(who placed 6th at the AC that year), ....you phuckin moron...trust me on this. Also, im pretty sure Labrada got told to retire, as Weider had his next crop of Weider superstars contracted. Its so obvious, but you an idiot, so you will probably point out that its all just conspiracy bullchit on my part.

    lol @ you're an idiot but talking about stuff with zero facts to back it up.


    You constantly spout nonsesne on here and pass it off as reality with zero evidence for it
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    Originally Posted by jld010 View Post
    Marsh, Mcneil, Marrazzo(who placed 6th at the AC that year), ....you phuckin moron...trust me on this.
    Somehow i don't trust you.


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    I'm thinking an almost gunter like physique too, maybe even slightly rhul like in chest and torso.

    In 74' Arnold was beastly so add to that certain protocols that became popular in the 90's you could add maybe another 30lb's or so could be looking at a 260lb+ Arnold?

    Then add to that certain methods that would bring up his shoulders and tri's.
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    Originally Posted by Groggery View Post
    Somehow i don't trust you.


    So you went to go have a look, thats a start. Maybe you American and hold Lou dear to your heart. Anyone else outside of AMerica dont really hold him in high regard. he was in the Hulk and that was it. there is no way that his imbalanced physique should have placed better than those mentioned. there are other names aswell i didnt care to mention. @ Raz, ofcourse its nonsense to you, it doesnt make sense to you because you dumb.
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    I hate to be that guy, but Lou had size. Size tends to count for something in this gig.

    He took 10-th place dude, quit embarrassing yourself. Oh look he ain't Dillet, deserves to get boo-ed off the stage. Seriously.
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    Originally Posted by Groggery View Post
    I hate to be that guy, but Lou had size. Size tends to count for something in this gig.

    He took 10-th place dude, quit embarrassing yourself. Oh look he ain't Dillet, deserves to get boo-ed off the stage. Seriously.
    Dude you ARE the embarrassment, and you taking it bEyond embarrassment. You are THAT GUY. NOMSAIYAN.
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    Never known what you were saying actually, i don't really tend to take you seriously most of the time.
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    Originally Posted by Groggery View Post
    Never known what you were saying actually, i don't really tend to take you seriously most of the time.
    Well, you think Lou has a better physique than the guys i mentioned, and you put his superior size as a contributing factor. No Sir, i dont think many take you seriously. You dun goofed, bro, lol
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    Originally Posted by jld010 View Post
    Well, you think Lou has a better physique than the guys i mentioned, and you put his superior size as a contributing factor. No Sir, i dont think many take you seriously. You dun goofed, bro, lol
    Lou doesn't deserve 10-th place, Arnold's genetics would not have taken him very far, everyone in the 90's is a mutant.

    Nah you got me beat on the gibberish scale so far.
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    Originally Posted by Groggery View Post
    Lou doesn't deserve 10-th place, Arnold's genetics would not have taken him very far, everyone in the 90's is a mutant.

    Nah you got me beat on the gibberish scale so far.
    You think Arnolds genetics(bodytype) is comparable to Levrone who at age 26, was already a NPC champion( mixed race mutant Black/italian), comparable to Yates who took jsut 4 years to become a UK champion and Olympia Champion at 28, Ray, at 19/20 already a NPC champ, Dillet at 19 already 21inch arms, 21 inch calves, 30 inch things, , Flex....nuff said....yes, they are mutants. Elite elite genetics. If you think Arnie whos slumpy shoudlers, long legs, average waist, can compare then you really are an idiot of the highest order. OH WAIT, you do think this.Guess you are one. STop posting, and remove yourself from this thread. Mind you, they faced serious competition, not getting into it again at how many more bodybuilders there were after the 70s.
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    Something like Ronnie Coleman.
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    Thread topic - if Arnold would look decent compared to "today"'s standards. Your nonsense - comparing him to the top 10 of the 90's.

    Sense man, where are you hiding it?
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    Well, Lou had a seriously crappy midsection in 1993, but he was indeed bigger than everybody else on stage. I don't get why you guys are so obsessed with '93 though, why doesn't 1992 count as an example of how Lou "would have looked like in the 90s"? Point is, in the end, that he was considerably bigger and a top class competitor with today's advantages when compared to the 70's. Why shouldn't that be the case with someone who was already better than Lou in the 70s?







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    I am going to throw it out that had not Lou retired after 75 to pursue TV and Movies, he would have likely been the contender to replace Arnold to win 76-79 and onward. Take his definition from 74 and mass from 75, add some dedicated training (I don't count the hurry up he did for 75 and pumping iron) and it is my opinion that Lou would have won the Olympia. I mean seriously, who was left in the tall class?

    Arnold and Lou retiring was the best thing ever for Frank Zane.

    Ken Waller? Winner of tall class, lost to Franco? 76 Franco looked great, but a equal tall man beats an equal short man
    Mike Katz? Awesome guy, but too many weaknesses.
    Serge Nubret? Another contender but he kinda dropped off the scene
    Robby Robinson? Uncrowned Mr. Olympia
    Bill Grant? No calves
    Denis Tinerino? Kinda showing his age, been battling with Arnold since the late 60s.
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    Originally Posted by jld010 View Post
    You think Arnolds genetics(bodytype) is comparable to Levrone who at age 26, was already a NPC champion( mixed race mutant Black/italian), comparable to Yates who took jsut 4 years to become a UK champion and Olympia Champion at 28, Ray, at 19/20 already a NPC champ, Dillet at 19 already 21inch arms, 21 inch calves, 30 inch things, , Flex....nuff said....yes, they are mutants. Elite elite genetics. If you think Arnie whos slumpy shoudlers, long legs, average waist, can compare then you really are an idiot of the highest order. OH WAIT, you do think this.Guess you are one. STop posting, and remove yourself from this thread. Mind you, they faced serious competition, not getting into it again at how many more bodybuilders there were after the 70s.
    Just face the simple fact that Arnold had probably the best balance and symmetry of any bodybuilder that ever competed in the 60s through the 80s. So let's add 10-20 pounds to his frame. Arnold would add it proportionately all over his body and he would not of ballooned up his stomach with GH and insulin and whatever else became fashionable in the late 80s onward. At some point he would have stopped adding mass because he was all about sym and proportions.
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    Originally Posted by Nuclear_Warrior View Post
    Just face the simple fact that Arnold had probably the best balance and symmetry of any bodybuilder that ever competed in the 60s through the 80s.
    No, he was not all about symmetry and proportions. Actually, what made him stand out against his competition was his size. He did not have better proportions than many from that time, namely zane. Symmetry was a given in those days, most were very symmetric...arnold definetly didn't stood out in that department.

    Arnold was a winner above all. If he wanted to win in say colemans prime era, he would have to add a lot of size. With significant size at that point comes significant waist growth. His waist was not good to begin with, and it would only get worst.
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    Arnold was a winner above all. If he wanted to win in say colemans prime era, he would have to add a lot of size. With significant size at that point comes significant waist growth. His waist was not good to begin with, and it would only get worst.
    Question, with people like Coleman and Cutler, and their respective success on the stage, why do people give that many damns about waist size?

    What i'm trying to say is Arnold's bad from the knee up to the hips only. With added mass in that area the dude would rock, regardless of waist.
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    Originally Posted by Groggery View Post
    Question, with people like Coleman and Cutler, and their respective success on the stage, why do people give that many damns about waist size?

    What i'm trying to say is Arnold's bad from the knee up to the hips only. With added mass in that area the dude would rock, regardless of waist.
    I was just saying that his waist would get worst with added size, and if arnold wanted to be competitive, considering how is waist size was not genetically good (like with coleman for example) it would "ballon up" like with everybody that we have seen that tried to reach the kind of thickness that coleman presented in 03 forward. Im not saying that would be a major problem (it could), im just saying it would happen
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    Groggery, what are you doing bro? There were guys who appeared later on that outweighed Arnie by as much as 30 pounds, whilst having smaller waists. LOL, its now become a sad situation for you. You love for Arnie is so blind, and you go on abt my love for Dillett. Who are you to speak.
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    I see. Well i think he'd do better than most with a big gut, seeing how well he controlled his already not-so-modest waist.

    Oh lawd you're such a ****tard mate. Quit bitching about the certain top 10 and realize they weren't the only ones bodybuilding.
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    Originally Posted by jld010 View Post
    Groggery, what are you doing bro? There were guys who appeared later on that outweighed Arnie by as much as 30 pounds, whilst having smaller waists. LOL, its now become a sad situation for you. You love for Arnie is so blind, and you go on abt my love for Dillett. Who are you to speak.
    We are not comparing the later guys with 70's arnold. We are comparing later guys with what arnold could have become. Thats the point of the thread.

    Also, who are these guys that weighted 270lbs+ with smaller waists than arnold?
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