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    Originally Posted by lancs_hotpot View Post
    Stupid arguments going on. If Arnys legs were weak so were all the competitions (excluding platz). They all had similar leg development apart from Oliva whose quads were only slightly better. That was the standard of the day. There is no telling what what he would looked like today. One thing we can safely assume is he would have been a big ****er and his height may have gone against him. As for waist, stomache, size potential, placings etc, thats up to the imagination. May aswell argue what Ronnie, Phil, Dorian or Jay would have looked like if they competed in the 70s. Apart from the fact that they had had great genetics so would have been big theres nothing else to say.
    Arnold was said to have cut off his pants at the knees so he would be reminded to work his calves.......the man tortured his legs.
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    People generally look at the classic bodybuilder look with envy due to how the competitors and judges pioritized the looks of that era. It's hard to say how he would have turned out today, but he did have amazing genetics (some argue his waist width, but I'm referring to everything else).
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    The closest example to an Arnold resurgence is when Ferrigno made his comeback during the 90's. I thought he looked remarkable, like he had never missed a step, but the best he could manage was 10th in '93. Based on their previous encounters, I think it's plausible to surmise that Arnold could have placed higher. The exact placing doesn't really matter because it's purely speculation.

    What we do know is how well they compared in Pumping Iron, and Lou was able to take his physique a step further. At the '92 Olympia, he reportedly tipped the scales at ~300lbs, and it showed. IMO, that kind of progress is a strong indication of what Arnold might have been capable of with today's advancements. I realize it's impossible to actually know; but if one of his contemporaries could improve, why couldn't he?
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    Originally Posted by trulyhuge1 View Post
    Arnold was said to have cut off his pants at the knees so he would be reminded to work his calves.......the man tortured his legs.
    Lol I remember flex saying when he was a kid he had small legs, so he'd always wear short shorts to remind himself to work legs and stop getting embarrassed in public for having small quads
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    Originally Posted by trulyhuge1 View Post
    Arnold was said to have cut off his pants at the knees so he would be reminded to work his calves.......the man tortured his legs.
    What does that have to do with my post? So Arnold may not have been happy with his calves, so what?
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    Originally Posted by lancs_hotpot View Post
    What does that have to do with my post? So Arnold may not have been happy with his calves, so what?
    Point is he did things such as this and pretty much sums up how he trained them hard. That's all.
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    Originally Posted by trulyhuge1 View Post
    Point is he did things such as this and pretty much sums up how he trained them hard. That's all.
    Yes but he did that to bring his calves up to match the rest of his body. He trained for Proportions, not to max out every individual muscle. If his legs needed to be bigger (which they didn't) he would have made them bigger. Its Arnold, I believe he would have excelled in any era.
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    Can we agree he'd get his pro card and end up somewhere in the top 10 at the O then? Somewhere doesn't necessarily mean top 5 either. Seems reasonable for Arnold.
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    If Branch can win an Arnold Classic I don't see why a modern day Arnold couldn't. **** a 70's Mike Katz could probably have a crack.
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    not much to do with this thread, but anyways here goes...... Lou didnt deserve 10th place, he looked like a mess, had a horrible structure. calf implants, its goes on and on, But he is LOU FERRIGNO, sponsored by Weider, and is a celeb in AMerica. they dont want to see him bow out with a meagre 15th place and beyond. Lou placing 10th mans absolutely nothing in this argument. Had Arnie been born in 1970, and display his genetics at 19, he still wouldnt have been anything. There are thousands of bodybuilders these days, Sure Arnie would have been much better than he was in the 60s and 70s, but did he hav the genetics to trouble the mutants of the 90s......NO, NO NO NO NO.
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    but did he hav the genetics to trouble the mutants of the 90s......NO, NO NO NO NO.
    What makes you think that? Somebody who's capable of making movies for years, losing more than 15Kg of sheer muscle and then coming back to stage in only 8 weeks, just to dominate the entire world elite sounds like somebody with pretty darn good genetics to me.
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    Lou didnt deserve 10th place, he looked like a mess, had a horrible structure
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    Originally Posted by jld010 View Post
    not much to do with this thread, but anyways here goes...... Lou didnt deserve 10th place, he looked like a mess, had a horrible structure. calf implants, its goes on and on, But he is LOU FERRIGNO, sponsored by Weider, and is a celeb in AMerica. they dont want to see him bow out with a meagre 15th place and beyond. Lou placing 10th mans absolutely nothing in this argument. Had Arnie been born in 1970, and display his genetics at 19, he still wouldnt have been anything. There are thousands of bodybuilders these days, Sure Arnie would have been much better than he was in the 60s and 70s, but did he hav the genetics to trouble the mutants of the 90s......NO, NO NO NO NO.
    Anytime an iconic figure returns to the stage, after a lengthy hiatus, people are going to question the validity of their placings. Whenever there's controversy, we commonly hear that someone was either robbed or gifted a spot, especially after a new crop of competitors have risen to prominence.

    As far as this thread is concerned, all we can do is speculate. Given the politics involved, there's no telling where Arnold could have placed if he'd comeback in the 90's. You said it yourself, being "sponsored by Weider, and a celebrity in America", are factors that carry influence. I'm just glad that we can both agree on one thing, the portion in bold.
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    Yes but he did that to bring his calves up to match the rest of his body. He trained for Proportions, not to max out every individual muscle. If his legs needed to be bigger (which they didn't) he would have made them bigger. Its Arnold, I believe he would have excelled in any era.
    Ok.....so he trained for "proportions" but didn't train his quads and hamstrings as hard because he didn't want to? Please help me out here. You lost me on that one.
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    The closest example to an Arnold resurgence is when Ferrigno made his comeback during the 90's. I thought he looked remarkable, like he had never missed a step, but the best he could manage was 10th in '93. Based on their previous encounters, I think it's plausible to surmise that Arnold could have placed higher. The exact placing doesn't really matter because it's purely speculation.

    What we do know is how well they compared in Pumping Iron, and Lou was able to take his physique a step further. At the '92 Olympia, he reportedly tipped the scales at ~300lbs, and it showed. IMO, that kind of progress is a strong indication of what Arnold might have been capable of with today's advancements. I realize it's impossible to actually know; but if one of his contemporaries could improve, why couldn't he?
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    Indeed

    Did you even watch the Olympia 93???????
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    Anytime an iconic figure returns to the stage, after a lengthy hiatus, people are going to question the validity of their placings. Whenever there's controversy, we commonly hear that someone was either robbed or gifted a spot, especially after a new crop of competitors have risen to prominence.

    As far as this thread is concerned, all we can do is speculate. Given the politics involved, there's no telling where Arnold could have placed if he'd comeback in the 90's. You said it yourself, being "sponsored by Weider, and a celebrity in America", are factors that carry influence. I'm just glad that we can both agree on one thing, the portion in bold.
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    he was the best amongst his peers, his peers being the cream of the genetic crop. Be that response to supps work ethics etc. He may very well have the response xfactor to be truly huge like ronnie given the same supps. Who knows?

    His legs were not smaller than his peers, they were bigger and more seperated than most. makes no sense to assume they would be a weakness. Logically you would assume they would be a non standout body part.
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