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    Originally Posted by Bokula View Post


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    Fuk man he looks ugly with those legs.
    However Arnold's structure is perfect for bodybuilding, aside from his height. He is perfect. Long legs, long chest, great arms, his triceps shape is excellent, short torso, low lats lats, traps are retarded good aswell, good calf insertions.He has wide waist bones, but his hips are tiny. His physique flows perfect.
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    Originally Posted by jld010 View Post
    His legs wouldnt have improved much. He had weak leg genetics. That Trex pic is from DinoRiders. Krulos is driving thre Rex.
    Not his best bodypart but I wouldn't say weak. His legs still dominated the competition back, at least before 1975.









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    Originally Posted by Riflemancho View Post
    He has wide waist bones
    Wide what?

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    Originally Posted by trulyhuge1 View Post
    Yes, he did well in his day. Wouldn't do jack nowadays. Those legs would be laughed off stage.
    That's because "legs" was not what the judges were looking for. Otherwise Tom Platz would have a couple of Sandows in his showcase and Zane would have never stepped on stage.

    He would look different, I'm not gonna say he would dominate or something, because it's just too hard too tell. Many guys start to look crappy once they start to play the "mass" game. However, Arnold had a huge frame and terrific genetics in terms of muscle growth, he could certainly be in the mix with the top guys.
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    NOTE: I could make a photo-realistic representation of the projected stats in photoshop if you guys want to see? I just need some high-res pics of Arnold standing relaxed from font, side, back.

    Original Stats
    Height: 6'1
    Competition Weight: 235 lbs.
    Chest: 57"
    Arms: 21"
    Thighs: 27"
    Calves: 20"
    Waist: 34"

    Assuming with today's competition weights I would mathematically calculate it something like this: I figure a reasonable competition stage weight would roughly be 280lbs ... leading to a +45lbs increase. He was also not as lean or dry as today's pro's are and feel he could have been 5lbs - 8lbs lighter. Taking this in to account, I will start Arnold at an 8lbs deficit, making his stage weight 227lbs. I will then add these 8lbs back to his physique to put him at the stage weight of 280 lbs with an increase of +53lbs. Factoring in his physiques strong points (i.e. Chest, Arms, Legs) with the weaker body parts (i.e. Calves, Back) we can guesstimate how to distribute the +53lbs properly.
    (In relation to his era compared to today's pro's, Arnold's back and calves would have had a higher focus. His legs were big for his time and considered a strength then. We've all heard this argument a million times and no need to really discuss it further).

    To adequetly distribute the 53lbs among the areas that would have a higher focus for todays pro's, these are the measurements I calculated (don't feel like posting all the math cuz its on paper).


    Comparative Conversion Stats
    Height: 6'1
    Competition Weight: 280 lbs.
    Chest: 59"
    Arms: 24"
    Thighs: 34"
    Calves: 21"
    Waist: 35"

    I know everyone will have their own opinion on all of this. I'm not right or wrong here, its just an interpretation
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    Probably bigger quads, but his waist would've widened as well.

    But I'd like to think he'd look like a Rob Leifeld comic.
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    Originally Posted by flahexer View Post
    That's because "legs" was not what the judges were looking for. Otherwise Tom Platz would have a couple of Sandows in his showcase and Zane would have never stepped on stage.
    Well aware of that. Pointing out it doesn't work that way anymore. Would not be competetive at all.
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    Originally Posted by spamy View Post
    Arnold=Roland (his parents have seen the uncanny resemblance since day 1)



    And where is Roland now? How did he do onstage?
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    Originally Posted by Zeneth View Post
    Not his best bodypart but I wouldn't say weak. His legs still dominated the competition back, at least before 1975.









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    Originally Posted by trulyhuge1 View Post
    Well aware of that. Pointing out it doesn't work that way anymore. Would not be competetive at all.
    The point is, if legs were required to be bigger, Arnold would make them bigger. He didnt need to make them bigger, they matched the rest of his physique.
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    Originally Posted by purdey View Post
    The point is, if legs were required to be bigger, Arnold would make them bigger. He didnt need to make them bigger, they matched the rest of his physique.
    You're right. He didn't train his legs hard whatsoever. I believe he tortured them as much as any other muscle group. His legs just were not up to snuff with some of his upper body. Pardon me for having an opinion on everyone's favorite bb'er of all-time. Last time I checked you can have a voice....it IS a forum.
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    Originally Posted by trulyhuge1 View Post
    You're right. He didn't train his legs hard whatsoever. I believe he tortured them as much as any other muscle group. His legs just were not up to snuff with some of his upper body. Pardon me for having an opinion on everyone's favorite bb'er of all-time. Last time I checked you can have a voice....it IS a forum.
    Do I bother you? I must because you neg me any chance you get. You and two others are about the only negs I get. Is there a problem? Does it upset you if others disagree with people? I could neg anyone when I disagree but most of the time I let it go b/c it can be a discussion. Some can have conversations and not b*$#%, pi$$ and moan when you don't agree with them. Let it go. Go hit some biceps shots with that other idiot Flang.
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    Originally Posted by trulyhuge1 View Post
    You're right. He didn't train his legs hard whatsoever. I believe he tortured them as much as any other muscle group. His legs just were not up to snuff with some of his upper body. Pardon me for having an opinion on everyone's favorite bb'er of all-time. Last time I checked you can have a voice....it IS a forum.
    Do I bother you? I must because you neg me any chance you get. You and two others are about the only negs I get. Is there a problem? Does it upset you if others disagree with people? I could neg anyone when I disagree but most of the time I let it go b/c it can be a discussion. Some can have conversations and not b*$#%, pi$$ and moan when you don't agree with them. Let it go. Go hit some biceps shots with that other idiot Flang.
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    Well that wasn't very nice.
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    I can't believe people are actually arguing over this stuff.

    Brb, would carebears be watched if it had modern day graphics??
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    With Arnold's mentality he would have been the best in any era he competed in.
    A pattern in the chaos.
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    Originally Posted by trulyhuge1 View Post
    Who are you?
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    Originally Posted by flangmasterj View Post
    With Arnold's mentality he would have been the best in any era he competed in.
    Have to agree to an extent, his mentality combined with those genetics would have made him a force to be reckoned with no matter what, if only he'd been born at a time where he could have competed with big Ron.. (inb4 bodybuilding wouldn't be what it is etc etc..well aware, just sayin)
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    Originally Posted by Larfleeze View Post
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    Huh? What are you.....12? Who says that?
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    Originally Posted by flangmasterj View Post
    With Arnold's mentality he would have been the best in any era he competed in.
    How does this work? Do I neg you because I disagree with this statement?
    I highly disagree. I think Arnold did ALL he could with his physique and was successful. There are absolute freaks onstage and guys who are 5'8" and weigh the same or more than him would win. He simply would not carry the mass overall as other guys do nowadays.
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    Originally Posted by trulyhuge1 View Post
    Huh? What are you.....12? Who says that?
    Just continuing on the level you lowered this discussion to with the insult throwing..but yeah was a little out of place, my apologies
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    Originally Posted by purdey View Post


    This is perfection IMO
    That physique is nice but in a bodybuilding competition there is far too much lacking. Way too much thickness and freaks of nature competing today.
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    Originally Posted by trulyhuge1 View Post
    How does this work? Do I neg you because I disagree with this statement?
    I highly disagree. I think Arnold did ALL he could with his physique and was successful. There are absolute freaks onstage and guys who are 5'8" and weigh the same or more than him would win. He simply would not carry the mass overall as other guys do nowadays.
    These guys are just daydreaming a "what if" scenario of a bodybuilder they admire...

    I'm not sure why you care so much about another person's imagination.
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    Originally Posted by trulyhuge1 View Post
    How does this work? Do I neg you because I disagree with this statement?
    I highly disagree. I think Arnold did ALL he could with his physique and was successful. There are absolute freaks onstage and guys who are 5'8" and weigh the same or more than him would win. He simply would not carry the mass overall as other guys do nowadays.
    You sound like a angry short guy........oh wait.....you ARE an angry short guy. Way to base your opinion on absolutely nothing.

    To assume that Arnold would not have been able to add more muscle is ridiculous. Would he be as dominant.....no one knows, but to just flat out say that he did all he could with his physique is ignorant.
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    You know what bugs me? Whenever people bring up what Arnold could do today you get people moaning about his legs and saying he wouldn't make an impact etc..but whenever the guy he comprehensively beat (Sergio) is brought up everyone hits out with the "OMG ULTIMATE FREAK" repertoire..what's with all the Arnold hate?
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