IW.....you just make things too simple....that is your problem.
For some reason people dont want things to be that simple.
Hell....Pi is an irrational number that goes on for infinity....and this thread is like that in many ways. In real world applications we can consider it to be 3.14 and do just fine. A 200m diameter circle will only be 1/2mm off in circumference.
Hell NASA only uses Pi to 10 or 15 digits max in space calculations....yet some in this thread would point out that there is inherent error in their calculations. Well the space station and all the satellites do just fine with using imperfect calculations.
Why do our food calculations need to be more complex then NASA's? (half joking...but you get my point). People have shown that in the real world.....within the margin of error of measurement and in everyday examples....a calorie is a calorie. Are we using inherent errors when we calculate in this method?...sure.
Do they make a significant difference over time if a person sets reasonable macro goals and strives to eat a healthy balanced diet?.... Probably not.
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Thread: Is it just maths????
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01-30-2013, 03:14 PM #391RAW lifts
635 Dead http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mATRBZ0gwdg
585x7 Dead reps http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yf2ZkdNNNQ
420 Bench (paused) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJ2_Q-TLIB8
535 Squat https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdgVaiTi4-8&feature=youtu.be
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01-30-2013, 03:18 PM #392
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01-30-2013, 04:54 PM #400
In the time I was at the gym, this thread has grown by 2 more pages. Back on page 12, you asked:
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Response rate: 16% (n = 639). Half of the physicians did not know that canola oil and 26% did not know olive oil were good sources of monounsaturated fat. Ninety-three percent (84% of cardiologists vs. 96% of internists; p < 0.001) did not know that a low-fat diet, in general, would increase blood triglycerides. Approximately three-quarters (70% of cardiologists vs. 77% of internists; p < 0.01) did not know a low-fat diet would decrease HDL-c and almost half (45%) thought that a low-fat diet would not change HDL-c."
Yes. I've read the full article. No. The results do not surprise me. I know for a fact that in terms of nutrition, my knowledge far surpasses that of my cardiologist and my coach (strength training); but, I'm not paying either of them for nutritional advice. The only reason that I see a cardiologist twice a year is for semi-annual physicals as I've never had a PCP. Fifty years ago, I had a life-threating infection that resulted in pre-atrial contractions and since that time I've never had a normal EKG. Otherwise, I'm in excellent CV health, normally have a BP of 110/80 and my Total Cholesterol generally runs around 130 mg/dL with Triglycerides around 51 mg/dL
I consider dispensing medical advice over the internet and/or in a forum unethical. In fact, Furthermore, I probably pi$$ a lot of people off because, I won't give specific responses to PMs concerning allergies, immunodeficiencies, infections, etc. Aside from not having access to a complete history and physical, individual variables complicate the issue.
I find the same fault with much of the nutritional advice that I read in forums and on the internet (primarily because of diverse variables). As IW has mentioned, a lot of the information, in the absence of scientific evidence can mislead noobs. I've worked with nutritionists since the early 1980s. While it's more information than you need, I co-authored >3 peer-reviewed publications concerned with Omega 3s and certain forms of cancer. Two years ago when I wanted personal nutritional advice, I started working with a professional nutritionist (well-established national reputation). Currently, I eat 6 meals/day, tracking my calories, macros, and micro-nutrients. As I see it, one's diet is a personal matter which won't do others much good; mine is based on my RMR which is measured at least every 4 months, age, body measurements and other variables. It's gluten-free and essentially dairy-free. Because of the latter, I do take Calicum as one of my few supplements. Both those factors are by my own choosing and are totally unrelated to health issues. Growing up a dairy-farm, I literally abhor milk. Although I have the greatest respect for several of the individuals that have posted in this thread, many of the accounts of direct personal experience, I equate to anecdotal evidence. I applaud their efforts and am pleased that they have worked well. My diet works exceedingly well for me. Bottom line - the only advice that I'll listen to is from a professional nutritionist, whom I'm paying for advice. In the meanwhile, I'll probably continue to read threads like this one for entertainment value, read MuscleD mag, the journals to which I'm subscribed, check the facts on Pub Med, and refrain from giving out medical and/or nutritional advice.
Approaching the new subject: I was thinking:
Last edited by HoustonTXMuscle; 01-30-2013 at 06:12 PM. Reason: spelling
Inactivity Kills!!!
My journal: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=140991491 Age is NOT an acceptable excuse.
Played with dinosaurs as a child. Back then everyone was thin; it was a matter of out-running the raptors or being one of their meals.
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01-30-2013, 08:10 PM #401
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01-30-2013, 08:28 PM #402
Caloric intake is important no one is denying that and for some people any diet will work so long as you cut out calories. For some though the type of calories matters as much or more. If youre body is in a lipogenic state where fat is only stored and only carbs are burned, even on a low calorie diet you can still gain fat, eating a high carb diet. For these people a very low carb high fat diet can reverse lipogenesis and cause fat los EVEN ON HIGHER CALORIE DIETS. In such people the cells crave fat in will store and accumulate it even in a cloairc dficit. We know this to be true from animal studies involving hibernating animals, these animals will still gain fat mass during prehybernation even in a caloric deficit. Yes this is an extreme example, but this can happen in people too. For those who are not in a lipoltyic or fat loss state, carbs and fat are burned in the muscles for fuel and any caloric deficit works. For those who's cell are starving for fat, a high fat low cabr diet will reverse lipogenesis. This is why not all calories are created equal for all people. So the answer like always it IT DEPENDS
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01-31-2013, 07:43 AM #403
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01-31-2013, 09:06 AM #404
Actually, what I hate is when you get into a debate with someone and they search the internet.
Then they copy what they think looks good then paste it in here. Good attempt of trying to make it look like they wrote it as their own.....
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