Bioforge v3 or Fadogia/Endosurge/Erase. You pick, will get "bloodwork".

[Blacklac]

I have to make this clear, first. Do to finances, I'm not going to have Free Test checked! I know this is a big WFT to alot of people, but it would cost like an extra $100 to get a different test just to get it checked. Aint happening... Here's what it will test for:

Includes: Estradiol, serum; Follicle-Stimulating Hormone (FSH); Luteinizing Hormone (LH); Testosterone, serum; Hematocrit; hemoglobin; mean corpuscular volume (MCV); mean corpuscular hemoglobin (MCH); mean corpuscular hemoglobin concentration (MCHC); red cell distribution width (RDW); percentage and absolute differential counts; platelet count; red cell count; white blood cell count; A:G ratio; albumin, serum; alkaline phosphatase, serum; ALT (SGPT); AST (SGOT); bilirubin, total; BUN; BUN:creatinine ratio; calcium, serum; carbon dioxide, total; chloride, serum; creatinine, serum; globulin, total; glucose, serum; potassium, serum; protein, total, serum; sodium, serum.

Its like a $50 test, walk in, get results in a day or so. Why not... I am curious about my baseline anyway and I have a few T-boosters on hand.

So, I have Bioforge v3 and then my own stack of Fadogia, Endosurge and Erase/Erase Pro.

What say you?

[gymrat53]

The less variables for me the better. 3 products stacked or one product I say one but then again I already know BFv3 is effective from my own exp. and plenty of posted bloods.

How about just Fadogia or just EP?

[Blacklac]

I knew people would ask. . I chose Fadogia, Endosurge and Erase cause they all add to the total equation. Bioforge is a "complete" package, so if I simply compared Fadogia, it would be like only using Shilajit and not Bioforge.

[gymrat53]

I knew people would ask. . I chose Fadogia, Endosurge and Erase cause they all add to the total equation. Bioforge is a "complete" package, so if I simply compared Fadogia, it would be like only using Shilajit and not Bioforge.

Meet in the middle Fadogia and Erase

[Starkk]

If somebody will pay for the labs, I'll get bloodwork done for a 30 day run of Goldfish crackers

[gymrat53]

If somebody will pay for the labs, I'll get bloodwork done for a 30 day run of Goldfish crackers

I'll think about need more specs though like dosage, flavor, ect

[Blacklac]

Brb adding to poll...

[Starkk]

Flavor blasted, 60 crackers pre- and post-workout, moons and stars shapes

OP guarantee the Goldfish crackers dominate your pole

[ChrisLS8]

Erase at 75mg

[gymrat53]

Flavor blasted, 60 crackers pre- and post-workout, moons and stars shapes

OP guarantee the Goldfish crackers dominate your pole

Do you accept travelers checks?

[Blacklac]

Erase at 75mg

Having used Erase and EP before, Erase @ 50mg and EP every other day, are my comfortable levels. Curious to see my baseline Estrogen because I know I don't need much Erase to give me joint pain.

I've used Endosurge + Erase/Erase Pro before, fwiw.

[Daycrawler]

Having used Erase and EP before, Erase @ 50mg and EP every other day, are my comfortable levels. Curious to see my baseline Estrogen because I know I don't need much Erase to give me joint pain.

I've used Endosurge + Erase/Erase Pro before, fwiw.

I did Erase/Fadgoia. 2.5g Fadogia, 50mg Erase ED.

Free Test went from 95 to 154.1 over a 36 day run.

[gymrat53]

Having used Erase and EP before, Erase @ 50mg and EP every other day, are my comfortable levels. Curious to see my baseline Estrogen because I know I don't need much Erase to give me joint pain.

I've used Endosurge + Erase/Erase Pro before, fwiw.

I know my levels are within range but on the lower end and dose exactly the same as you, any higher and my joints feel terrible. So I would guess your levels are similar to mine, within range but on the lower end. Crushing estrogen isn't a good idea anyway.

I did Erase/Fadgoia. 2.5g Fadogia, 50mg Erase ED.

Free Test went from 95 to 154.1 over a 36 day run.

Very nice, roughly a 66% increase in FT. Omega or iForce? Probably doesn't matter cause I think Omega supplies iForce but still curious.

[Blacklac]

I did Erase/Fadgoia. 2.5g Fadogia, 50mg Erase ED.

Free Test went from 95 to 154.1 over a 36 day run.

Nice! Wish I could get my Free T, but I just can't justify the extra $200 or so for both before and after tests. :/

[Daycrawler]

I know my levels are within range but on the lower end and dose exactly the same as you, any higher and my joints feel terrible. So I would guess your levels are similar to mine, within range but on the lower end. Crushing estrogen isn't a good idea anyway.



Very nice, roughly a 66% increase in FT. Omega or iForce? Probably doesn't matter cause I think Omega supplies iForce but still curious.

Omega.

Wasn't aware iForce had a straight Fadogia product.

[gymrat53]

Omega.

Wasn't aware iForce had a straight Fadogia product.

Did for a while, unsure if they still do. Tropinol XT has it but its in a prop. Looks promising regardless.

[Hyruliangoat]

do bioforge and endosurge that should be an awesome combo. formestane = hnggg

[Daycrawler]

do bioforge and endosurge that should be an awesome combo. formestane = hnggg

Lol, Formestane isn't on here though

[ethical]

Interested in BioForge myself, thus it gets my vote.

[Hyruliangoat]

Lol, Formestane isn't on here though

endosurge is formestane

[gymrat53]

endosurge is formestane

Formasurge is formestane noob we just talked about this.

endo is mucuna and divanil

[Hyruliangoat]

Formasurge is formestane noob we just talked about this.

endo is mucuna and divanil

oh woops i herped. =(

[gymrat53]

oh woops i herped. =(

they do sound a like doe

[Starkk]

that's very surprising

[THEHUGE]

IMO, no Free Test, no go.
Keep in mind that BioForge is far from being just a T-booster. A significant percentage of its positive effect comes from its Cortisol lowering and ATP boosting features.
That being said, the main T-boosting ingredient(EuryGold) works mainly by lowering SHBG so I'd say a Free Test reading would be crucial.
There's always another option: save the money you're going to spend in bloods and do an extensive search: other users posted their bloods before(example:TheStigIsBig comes to mind).

[smaxor]

Omega.

Wasn't aware iForce had a straight Fadogia product.

does anyone know if iforce gets there fadogia from omega ?

[Blacklac]

IMO, no Free Test, no go.
Keep in mind that BioForge is far from being just a T-booster. A significant percentage of its positive effect comes from its Cortisol lowering and ATP boosting features.
That being said, the main T-boosting ingredient(EuryGold) works mainly by lowering SHBG so I'd say a Free Test reading would be crucial.
There's always another option: save the money you're going to spend in bloods and do an extensive search: other users posted their bloods before(example:TheStigIsBig comes to mind).

Good points. I actually already have 2 bottles of Bioforge v3 and then the T-Force, Endosurge and Erase though. I'm simply getting a baseline just for my own knowledge and figured since I WILL take these anyway, another $50 for post #'s would be nice. I am really looking forward to the Ashwagandha in Bioforge. After reading about it, I was considering buying it by itself. Honestly, the bloods dont mean a whole lot to me. For instance, I've used Endosurge before, and it was great for sleep, hence I'm using it again. Even if I were to get bloodwork before and after Bioforge and the #'s weren't much change, if I enjoyed how it made me feel, I would surely consider another run and atleast look into buying 1 or 2 of the ingredients on their own. I understand there are more to these products than what it boosts (or doesn't boost) your hormone #'s.