So I was up to like 196 on a dirty bulk...decided to start over again and go down to 185 (picture)....figured I was lean enough to stat bulking SLOWLY/CLEAN again so I increased my macros. But there more I look at the picture the more I think I should have maybe cut down another 5lbs or so first. But now I am 2 weeks into my slow bulk and don't want to start over again...
Advice?
At 185 CURRENT except now I am closer to 186
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01-23-2013, 08:36 AM #1
Can't tell if love handles or muscle....cut or bulk time?
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01-23-2013, 08:39 AM #2
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01-23-2013, 08:59 AM #3
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01-23-2013, 09:03 AM #4
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01-23-2013, 09:05 AM #5
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01-23-2013, 09:15 AM #6
Thanks guys...I am 6'1.
Kinda upside down right now as I am coming off a back injury and neglected my legs for this first few years like a bro...but fixing that now.
Bench 305
Overhead Press 215
Squat is low at 300lbs
I still am not able to dead
I am going on a spring break trip but I figured if I am bulking slowly enough I can still maintain some abs without have to cut for it and then just cut real slow for summer.
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01-23-2013, 09:21 AM #7
was just wondering your height as you have similar proportions to me, same age and same weight (my avatar is 2 months old i've put on about another 10 pounds) thought you might be same height,
very surprised you are taller than me as you look a bit bigger than me, although its probably due to the fact you have a bit less bodyfat than me.
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01-23-2013, 09:38 AM #8
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I've got that same thing as you man. I've been bulking for over a year now and due to working my obliques for quite some time once the fat started to build up it sat mostly around that area and due to thicker obliques it gives the impression of love handles.
That's just me though, you may have the same thing.'-I love it when someone says that no-one has ever done this before, because then when I do it that means that I'm the first one that has done it. So pay no attention to the people that say it can't be done.' - Arnold Schwarzenegger
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01-23-2013, 09:44 AM #9
yeah I cant really tell if its muscle or fat...I can't really squeeze it but it does stick out more than normal I think...
Also to ORIAN I get that a lot...its because my legs are not proportionate to my upper body yet...if they were I would be closer to 200lbs.
Better Angle
Last edited by egon10psi; 01-23-2013 at 12:08 PM.
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01-23-2013, 12:08 PM #10
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01-23-2013, 06:55 PM #11
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01-24-2013, 02:49 AM #12
my legs are fairly out of proportion as well, haven't been able to train them since tore ligaments in my knee in August, luckily they have a naturally decent size due to football(soccer) for years.
in regards to obliques, there is muscle there, of course there is a layer of fat on top of it but nothing major. would disappear quickly i'd say if you were to cut below 10% then would be left with well defined obliques and good adonis belt.
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01-24-2013, 03:10 AM #13
I have to say, you have my goal sustainable physique.
Nice medium-average BF% (for a recreational BBer), good proportions.
You don't have love handles, surely there's fat, but it's all good.
Don't obsess over it. You do have strong obliques, but many people
love that and strive for it. I even asked my girlfriend of 2 years (she's picky)
if she likes your physique, she said that she wouldn't change a thing.
So yeah... Don't worry, but my recommendation would be not to hit
the obliques directly at all anymore. You asked if there's an exercise that you
might be doing to develop them. If you post your routine we may be able to
locate it.
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01-24-2013, 05:40 PM #14
Well I have routine ADD..
From last July until December while on my dirty bulk I was doing Starting Strength...I liked it and made descent gains but I just need the gym in my life more than 3 days a week...also developed a gut with my dirty bulk...so for the passed month I worked my bf percentage back down while doing this..
Chest/Tri (Flat Bench, Incline dumbbells, Cable/Machine Flys, Tri Extensions, Dips)
Back/Bi ( Weighted WG Pullups, Romanian Deads, Single Arm Rows, Machine Rows, Barbell Curl, Decline Curl)
Legs ( Squat, Leg Press, Leg Curl, Leg Extensions, Calves)
Shoulders ( Overhead Press, Seated dumbbell press, Lateral raises, shrugs)
But now I want to go to a routine where I can hit everything 2x a week.
I am currently looking for a Legs, Push, Pull, Off, Repeat Routine or maybe try PHAT.
Thank you guys for the comments...I am kinda upset lately that I am not where I want to be after 2 years but then again I guess I have not given it 100 percent with my diet. I am definitely far from my goal of 200-205 with 10 percent body fat. This lean bulk is taking a lot of learning with nutrition and diet and what macros work for me.
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01-24-2013, 06:45 PM #15
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01-24-2013, 08:10 PM #16
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01-24-2013, 09:52 PM #17
You got a good physique going - until you mentioned you havent been able to properly work your legs I wouldve guessed you were a good bit heavier with all that upper body mass. I what you should do next depends on your goals - if you want to stay lean all year round (8-10% bf) then I'd cut, if you don't mind being 14-15% then keep slow bulking till you hit your target weight. Btw, what do you want you bf to be by summer? That'll help determine how long you can bulk for before you need to start a slow cut.
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01-24-2013, 11:08 PM #18
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01-25-2013, 01:03 AM #19
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01-25-2013, 08:09 AM #20
My ultimate goal for this year would be to get up to around 193/195 and cut back to 183/5 keeping 2 to 3 lbs of muscle by May...I know that might be far fetched. I would like to be around 10 percent for summer. I have no idea what I am at in that picture bf wise.
My all time goal would be around 205lbs body weight and 10 percent body fat before I am 30. I still have a lot of muscle mass that I can gain on my legs.
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01-25-2013, 09:25 AM #21
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01-25-2013, 09:38 AM #22
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01-25-2013, 10:15 AM #25
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Should probably allow about 10lb fat loss from where you are in that pic to ensure hitting that goal and I doubt anyone can really put on more than about 0.5 lbs per week natty/lean. So I'd bulk at that rate until 10-12 weeks before you want to be lean and then cut at about 1 lb per week - doing a slower cut will help you keep the muscle and strength and even continue gaining, albeit, not as fast as when bulking.
IG: Chrisprotein
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01-25-2013, 11:34 AM #26
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01-25-2013, 11:44 AM #27
Nice physique! I would say bulk.
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01-25-2013, 01:56 PM #28
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