why does the misc hate Ian McCarthy so much? (srs)

[thefederalist]

it's cool to be arrogant if you're actually brilliant.

he's not so his arrogance is really off-putting

[shanetehlegend]

pretty obvious this Ian guy told OP to make this thread and is lurking/posting, just wanna say phuck u ******* for messing with the hodgetwins

[RiK]

It's bully mentality from the kiddies on here.

[Lintford]

because people refuse to acknowledge/admit that someone with an average physique can teach them something...srs. they listen to people like greg plitt and layne norton because of their physique, not because what they say is true. it's quite sad IMO.

Seriously,

Layne is probably one of the most qualified people on the planet to give advice.

He is a natty pro bodybuilder and powerlifter, works in the fitness industry, has a PhD in nutritional science and is involved in current research. What else does he need to make his opinion valid?

Pls go *******

[hockeyd13]

"The way he delivers his information is unpleasing to me, therefore his information is wrong and I will not listen to him"

oh misc

Haha, this.

[kpham]

He's arrogant and insults people with more experience/aesthetics than him. Also, have you seen the short clip of his seminar? He tries to play the role of a professor/instructor but he has no qualification/credibility.

[hockeyd13]

this

that fukcer even called out the hodge twins. you dont call out the hodge twins when you havent made all kinds of gainz

Nah man... I really like the twins and all, and you cannot argue with their progress, but some of the bro-science they've introduced in their time is laughable.

[NecessaryMind]

Because he said Jason Genova is autistic.

The sickening Dark Lord Spaniard is not autism.

[FxYxIxE]

He comes off as pseudo-intellectual, smug, arrogant, know-it-all, and a holier than thou type of person. Saying that, he definitely does know his stuff and puts out good information.

[Poolee32]

almost done with the ian mccarthy vs david pulcinella video.

wow this kid is such a *******.

[Jfern689]

He's a 19 year old spoiled kid who grew up getting anything he wanted and now he think he can take the bodybuilding world with his bull**** science. He's NOT smart at all. He tries to act like he is but the guy is just an annoying arrogant prick who reads a book. In fact, his first videos (which are still on his channel) he tried to act like this cool kid with a baseball cap look and was uploading videos with his friend. All the sudden he changed to this smart and intellectual guy that knows about bodybuilding and nutrition. He's a liar. He said he was 100 pounds and then went to 230 pounds and then cut back down to 175? Really? Where are the results?

And like other people said. He calls out guys like The Hodgetwins, Chris Jones and Lui Marco but he has no body to back up his science or to criticize someone's bro science. This kid should shut the hell up. He's in a debate that he simply can't win. What makes me sick is the fact that he has supporters that don't any better. He can call out who he wants, read as many books as he wants and do videos on his parents mansion but that doesn't change the fact that he gets ZERO results. I don't understand how people even listen to someone who says Pop Tarts get you cut and that you can get all your protein in one meal.

And of course let me add some legendary videos just for the lolz

[SMASHgym]

pretty obvious this Ian guy told OP to make this thread and is lurking/posting, just wanna say phuck u ******* for messing with the hodgetwins

Nah brah I just posted a thread to get an understand why the misc hates him AND his information...he rustles my jimmies sometimes too but I still enjoy his information.

Edit: I fukkin love the twins though hahahahahah funniest guys to happen to the fitness community

[Forum]

Because for he bans and deletes posts which disagree with him even if evidence is presented. For goodness sake, he studies freaking philosophy NOT physiology or nutritional sciences. Please stop comparing him to lyle mcdonald or layne norton! It's an insult to them. I repeat, he studies philosophy NOT physiology or biochemistry! He is not qualified or credible!!! That kid hasnt even prepared for a biochemistry exam at the college level. Terms like oxidative phosphorylation, pyruvate dehydrogenase, flavin mononucleotide, EGRAC...etc, stuff you learn in biochemistry which are important in understanding energy production, nutrition...etc elude him. Yet, this philosophy major proudly says "doctors are not qualified to give nutritional advice". yup, and a philosophy major is? SMH

Ian however wins every argument because of the "Ban poster" and "delete posts" buttons in ********.

[Forum]

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Can someone help me embed this twonew memes I made of ian. Thanks.,

[Bodybreak]

Hes a smart kid just a totally smug individual. The guy bashed Ronnie Coleman in one of his videos, I dont care who you are thats just something that you do not do.

All the info he regurgitates is readily available on the internet so why should I hear it from someone who annoys me?

[saltyscrot]

Mind blown at comments like "He doesnt need to have a great body to be informative".

Thats like saying, im going to get trained in boxing by this dude who knows heaps about boxing, but lost every single one of his fights.

Your results are a reflection of your knowleage.

[MudStuffin]

It's bully mentality from the kiddies on here.

ah.......no.


the guy is pretentious douchebag

[Bodybreak]

Mind blown at comments like "He doesnt need to have a great body to be informative".

Thats like saying, im going to get trained in boxing by this dude who knows heaps about boxing, but lost every single one of his fights.

Your results are a reflection of your knowleage.

Not really.

Some of the best football/hockey/weightlifting etc coaches are ones who never excelled in their sport. A lot of what makes you so good is god given talent (genetics).

[ahox]

Mind blown at comments like "He doesnt need to have a great body to be informative".

Thats like saying, im going to get trained in boxing by this dude who knows heaps about boxing, but lost every single one of his fights.

Your results are a reflection of your knowleage.

u wot m8? There's a ton of pro boxers who are trained by guys that have never been necessarily good at boxing but still know a chitload. It's the equivalent of saying Einstein didn't know sh!t because he's never been to space.

[DanceMasterJosh]

He just has to much of an arrogance to him. He just gives off a smug vibe

[hutch1999]

I would pay 55 dollars to watch Ian gainz expert McCarthy fight Jason the dark sith lord Genova in a youtube celebrity death match.

[dbp]

Not really.

Some of the best football/hockey/weightlifting etc coaches are ones who never excelled in their sport. A lot of what makes you so good is god given talent (genetics).

This. It's compounded by the fact that when you are so naturally good... you often don't think about it and can't properly break down and explain it to someone else.

Contrast that with the hard gainer who was not naturally gifted. He/she will have to analyse and break everything down to truly understand what needs to be done. With a fitness guru, it seems to me that you'd want to look at the consistent results in their clients rather than their own personal results. It helps if you have both to back it up (ie: Martin Berkhan)

Ian has made some good gains if you follow his ******** page. He's not afraid to ruffle feathers and take an arrogant stance, which some don't like. I like him and I like Lyle but it's mostly because I'm in their camp of flexible dieting. If it were some Paleo guy with the same attitude, I'd probably think he was a ****head too.

[detrimental]

Let me say it plain and simple:

Ian McCarthy is a socially inept manlet with an inferiority complex that misconstrues itself as arrogance. He has zero social skills and the consistent state of being a shadow in real life (more than likely during highschool) and nobody caring about his opinion or, more generally, him has made him the way that he is.

Now he's find his niche online and uses his decent vocabulary and vocal articulation to come across as an intellectual (when he's clearly not) in a realm (lifting) that accepts almost anybody and everybody and has no real established set of rules.

NOW... It certainly doesn't help that he's been lifting for 7 years, acts like he knows everything, is a manlet, and yet still hasn't made any noteworthy gains.

I suggest you watch this video to get a real grasp of who you're dealing with, here:



Go to around 45 minutes and you'll see him start talking about how he "doesn't want to see young men abandon college/education for bodybuilding, blah blah...". Mike P then poses the question: "Why do you care so much about what they do with their lives?". And you see every single insecurity and personality problem that Ian has rush straight to the forefront of his brain. It exposes who he is and why he does what he does, to his very core.

Furthermore, throughout the video you can see that he doesn't actually know anything about the science behind what he talks about. He simply regurgitates paraphrased information that he has memorized. The difficulty in believing or caring about what this kid has to say is that he has zero credible foundation to stand on because he clearly has not adapted the principles he so thoroughly believes in, in any real world scenario that has displayed any true benefit to the contrary principles at play.

He's just a kid, with a bad childhood, who doesn't really know much but has decent articulation and memory, with a fanbase of naive lifters on the internet who have even less practical experience in bodybuilding than he does.

[saltyscrot]

Not really.

Some of the best football/hockey/weightlifting etc coaches are ones who never excelled in their sport. A lot of what makes you so good is god given talent (genetics).

I might be just me, but im more inclined to take advice from someone who can "Walk the walk", bodybuilding in particular.

[authorscj]

The main problem with Ian is that he's a cocky know it all kunt. He frequently attacks other people on youtube, who have much MUCH better physiques, and years (sometimes decades) of experience over Ian, who is like 19. That and the fact that there are two issues with his "knowledge". First, it apparently doesn't work for him. Supposedly he has been training for 3 years, so that would put him at 16 when he started, an optimal age to start making gains. Yet he looks liek he's 12. So either he doesn't train and he's just out there for youtube fame (likely) or he just sucks dik at training.

Next, he is just regurgitating what he has read. He has no education in the subject, which wouldn't be a problem except he hasn;t applied any of the knowledge to himself, yet he si trying to tell others how to train and sh!tting on people who DO know what they are doing. He has no understanding of the information he is spewing at the camera past reading it off of google and a textbook.

He tries to portray himself at some type of professor (lol) when in reality he is just a 19 year old kunt with a big attitude problem.

Perfect vid I found to explain my point of view:

good post

[Birdbrainguy]

Mind blown at comments like "He doesnt need to have a great body to be informative".

Thats like saying, im going to get trained in boxing by this dude who knows heaps about boxing, but lost every single one of his fights.

Your results are a reflection of your knowleage.

Not really brah. There is a ton of science, knowledge, and things to learn associated with lifting and bodybuilding. In other words, there's a lot of stuff to know that can be learned as you go along, and gains come a lot more slowly than knowledge gains if you spend much time on learning at all.

Not to mention there is an absolute CHITLOAD of other factors contributing to gains other than lifting knowledge. Genetics is a huge one, but there is so much more. Maybe you've just got a real busy life and can't always get that 8 hours of sleep your particular body would need to gain optimally. Maybe your test levels are low. Maybe you're a turbo-ecto and can't afford to buy enough quality healthy food to bulk. Maybe you're not on the juice like 9/10 other huge dudes out there giving out stupid lifting advice. Could list off a thousand things that arent knowledge-related.

[jimlaH]

Not really.

Some of the best football/hockey/weightlifting etc coaches are ones who never excelled in their sport. A lot of what makes you so good is god given talent (genetics).

u wot m8? There's a ton of pro boxers who are trained by guys that have never been necessarily good at boxing but still know a chitload. It's the equivalent of saying Einstein didn't know sh!t because he's never been to space.

but these coaches/trainers whatever you want to call them have brought many athletes/teams etc. to the top level of their chosen sport and have produced champions over and over again. THAT is what makes them credible! Ian has produced fcukin nothing

[DerReise]

Many of you are completely lost when it comes to understanding what is scientifically supported and what is not. When you couple this with seeing someone like Ian, who I agree is not very presentable and seems like a nerd, presenting this information to you...you automatically reject it.

It can be right, but you reject it. But you do so mistakenly.

Forget his "delivery" or "personality" when it comes to this topic, just focus on what he is saying. Cool story, you might not be his friend, you might not want to even talk to him, but listen to what he says. I've watched a few of his videos now, as I'm also big on scientific research in this area, and although he is sometimes stubborn the kid knows what he is talking about. So what do the people do? They claim he simply "summarizes" wikipedia and pubmed...as if that changes the scientific research. Which proves you're not really against him, you're just hating on him and can't find a good reason to do so, making something up instead.

As far as crying about his physique, this is quite laughable.

The kid can be 90 pounds soaking wet, this does not preclude him from taking the time to learn about the science behind much of bodybuilding and delivering it to the 99% that are lazy and would rather listen to whoever is closest. The fact you make this point shows your own incompetence, nothing more.

To illustrate this point further, many of you seem to completely be oblivious (or willfully ignorant) to the fact that bodybuilding has a lot to do with genetics. When someone has a big chest, it is very often the case that they do so because their chest grows by simply looking at the weights. We all have a bodypart that grows like weeds, and others that struggle. There's also the very few who are blessed and have every body part grow like weeds. Do you honestly think taking advice from these folks is the right thing to do? Are you that intellectually deficient?

You can't talk to someone about growing your lats who grows lats by warming up on the pulldown machine. How is that going to help you? The person to talk to is the person who had WEAK lats and overcame this to make them a standout bodypart. (these individuals are very hard to find, because this isn't very easy) I'm only pointing this out as a counter to the logic you're using, because you're looking at the wrong people for advice almost exclusively.

When those real folks you should be taking training advice from can't be found, you have to rely on science. Ian talks science, just accept it. Now I haven't seen enough videos to claim he doesn't twist things, but from what I've watched, he's very straightforward on what is and isn't the case. If you don't listen, go find the info yourself and you'll probably learn the same thing he was preaching. His physique has nothing to do with this.

You're the same type of people who look to the pros to see what they are doing so you can replicate it. As if:

1) What they do will automatically work for you because they are a pro and have a big chest (ex. bench press 4x10, with 2 negatives at the end - ok I'll go do this and get results!!!!111 because Kai Greene said so)
2) They are pros who are on the juice, whatever they do simply does not apply to you...get this through your damn head.

We're not talking about teaching someone the proper technique for boxing, where a boxer is necessary because live experience in the ring creates the knowledge necessary to achieve success. We're talking about lifting weights, a mechanical movement you do with your body to contract and fatigue the same muscle on every human in the world. We're talking about the way the body functions, the same body in every human in the world. You don't need a "pro" telling you what to do or what to eat, knowledge of scientific studies is all that is necessary.

I don't care if you soak none of this post into your measly skulls, this is the logical reality. Hate all you want, but if someone is talking about something anyone can easily verify, how they look or how they deliver it has no bearing on the correctness of the statements.

[Bodybreak]

I might be just me, but im more inclined to take advice from someone who can "Walk the walk", bodybuilding in particular.

All the guys in the top 10 Mr.Olympia know jack. They're genetically gifted with insane muscle bellies and anabolic response. Were they sit in the bb'ing world has very little to do with their knowledge. Watch a jay cutler in gym video guy goes rampant with ridiculous amounts of sets and then explains it with broscience.

but these coaches/trainers whatever you want to call them have brought many athletes/teams etc. to the top level of their chosen sport and have produced champions over and over again. THAT is what makes them credible! Ian has produced fcukin nothing

Not to defend the kid because I dont like him but:
1)Hes still young and not a coach by any means he offers guidelines rather than specfic help like a coach would. Think Mark Rippetoe. He looks like (and always has) **** and never trained one superiour individual yet preaches a simple routine that has gained him tons of respect
2)We both have no idea who he has helped. Maybe there is some kid out their packing 18 inch arms while religiously following Ians youtube advice

[AliLeo94]

because people refuse to acknowledge/admit that someone with an average physique can teach them something...srs. they listen to people like greg plitt and layne norton because of their physique, not because what they say is true. it's quite sad IMO.

Layne has a PhD. justsayin