barbell rows and cable rows in same workout, too much or okay?

[egyptianboyer]

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[Sohale31]

theyre two totally different exercises, why would doing both be a problem

[FeelTheFear]

thats fine

[sSmitty93]

Youll be fine.

[egyptianboyer]

theyre two totally different exercises, why would doing both be a problem

dont they both hit the middle back but from a different angle? and just not sure if its tooo much volume?

[egyptianboyer]

thats fine

my back and biceps workout will end with 18 sets, sure its not too much?
i know only i will be able to tell, but i just don't wanna go overboard and overtrain

[Sohale31]

dont they both hit the middle back but from a different angle? and just not sure if its tooo much volume?

yes they both target the back, however by that logic you shouldnt do more than one variation of a Bench Press on a given day. youre back is a large muscle group, it needs a lot of volume anyway

[FeelTheFear]

theyre two totally different exercises, why would doing both be a problem

lol what

[Sohale31]

lol what

? they are two different exercises. even though they target the same muscle group, doing both the same day isnt a problem at all. in fact i did them both today

[egyptianboyer]

yes they both target the back, however by that logic you shouldnt do more than one variation of a Bench Press on a given day. youre back is a large muscle group, it needs a lot of volume anyway

Oh i get it, didn't think of it that way. well should I do it for like a month and see how it goes? then adjust accordingly after that
( in this for the results)

[Sohale31]

Oh i get it, didn't think of it that way. well should I do it for like a month and see how it goes? then adjust accordingly after that
( in this for the results)

whats your routine like?

[egyptianboyer]

whats your routine like?

for back? i already made my mind up on this decision though, and only changing it cause my back is lagging

[egyptianboyer]

whats your routine like?

dead lift ( 3 sets ) of 8-12 reps
seated rows ( 3 sets ) of 8-12 reps
lat pull downs ( 3 sets ) of 8-12 reps
then i do my bicep work

the only adjustment im making is lowering my reps by 2 and most likely add the bb rows

[Sohale31]

for back? i already made my mind up on this decision though, and only changing it cause my back is lagging

no throughout the whole week, not just back. no sense tweaking youre back routine for better gains if your overall routine is schitt.

[egyptianboyer]

no throughout the whole week, not just back. no sense tweaking youre back routine for better gains if your overall routine is schitt.

ill put it on here if you really want, but no point in changing a routine if its still working for me, despite the science or bro science

[FeelTheFear]

? they are two different exercises. even though they target the same muscle group, doing both the same day isnt a problem at all. in fact i did them both today

they do basically the same thing, not "totally different". But doing them both on the same day is fine

[egyptianboyer]

they do basically the same thing, not "totally different". But doing them both on the same day is fine

k then ill incorporate the adjustments and see how it goes for 1 month

[egyptianboyer]

they do basically the same thing, not "totally different". But doing them both on the same day is fine

but can you name a purpose/reasoning on why doing both movements to hit almost the same muscle in a workout would be beneficial and not counter productive?

[doza808]

IMO, both are great. I incorporate them in my back routine all the time. The only thing that I change up is my grip (overhand, underhand, staggered, or neutral). A lot of emphasis changes just through using various grips.

[FeelTheFear]

but can you name a purpose/reasoning on why doing both movements to hit almost the same muscle in a workout would be beneficial and not counter productive?

No. Personally I like to reduce number of exercises and increase sets per exercise. Some people prefer to do more exercises and if that helps them not be bored then so be it.

[egyptianboyer]

No. Personally I like to reduce number of exercises and increase sets per exercise. Some people prefer to do more exercises and if that helps them not be bored then so be it.

ahh i see. but can't I just do like 4 sets of barbell rows or even just 3 ? instead of doing both movements in the workout

[Lendogg]

youll be fine......

I do bb rows, pullups, cable row, and pulldowns all in the same workout

[Dzan09]

why would you the same exercise twice in your workout..If you want a bigger back focus more on traps,rear delts and lats.Bb row and cable row are just for the thickness

[Tb0282]

You should have 2 vertical and 2 horizontal pulling movements for back IMO anyway. It's s big muscle, it needs adequate volume

[sSmitty93]

why would you the same exercise twice in your workout..If you want a bigger back focus more on traps,rear delts and lats.Bb row and cable row are just for the thickness

lolwat

[egyptianboyer]

You should have 2 vertical and 2 horizontal pulling movements for back IMO anyway. It's s big muscle, it needs adequate volume

ill do it for a month to see how it goes, but your sure 18 sets in total for back and biceps is too much? by the end of the workout

[Tb0282]

ill do it for a month to see how it goes, but your sure 18 sets in total for back and biceps is too much? by the end of the workout

18 sets of back and 18 sets of biceps or 18 sets of back with biceps?

The latter is no problem.

[egyptianboyer]

18 sets of back and 18 sets of biceps or 18 sets of back with biceps?

The latter is no problem.

18 sets with both biceps and back. too much or okay?

[petertuck]

why is deadlifts 12 reps? cut that down

[royalz19]

Yeah thats fine. I usually do BB rows with heavy weight 3x5 then do cable rows as accessory work 3x10-12