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    barbell rows and cable rows in same workout, too much or okay?

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    theyre two totally different exercises, why would doing both be a problem
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    thats fine
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    Originally Posted by Sohale31 View Post
    theyre two totally different exercises, why would doing both be a problem
    dont they both hit the middle back but from a different angle? and just not sure if its tooo much volume?
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    Originally Posted by FeelTheFear View Post
    thats fine
    my back and biceps workout will end with 18 sets, sure its not too much?
    i know only i will be able to tell, but i just don't wanna go overboard and overtrain
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    Originally Posted by egyptianboyer View Post
    dont they both hit the middle back but from a different angle? and just not sure if its tooo much volume?
    yes they both target the back, however by that logic you shouldnt do more than one variation of a Bench Press on a given day. youre back is a large muscle group, it needs a lot of volume anyway
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    Originally Posted by Sohale31 View Post
    theyre two totally different exercises, why would doing both be a problem
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    Originally Posted by FeelTheFear View Post
    lol what
    ? they are two different exercises. even though they target the same muscle group, doing both the same day isnt a problem at all. in fact i did them both today
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    Originally Posted by Sohale31 View Post
    yes they both target the back, however by that logic you shouldnt do more than one variation of a Bench Press on a given day. youre back is a large muscle group, it needs a lot of volume anyway
    Oh i get it, didn't think of it that way. well should I do it for like a month and see how it goes? then adjust accordingly after that
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    Originally Posted by egyptianboyer View Post
    Oh i get it, didn't think of it that way. well should I do it for like a month and see how it goes? then adjust accordingly after that
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    Originally Posted by Sohale31 View Post
    whats your routine like?
    for back? i already made my mind up on this decision though, and only changing it cause my back is lagging
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    Originally Posted by Sohale31 View Post
    whats your routine like?
    dead lift ( 3 sets ) of 8-12 reps
    seated rows ( 3 sets ) of 8-12 reps
    lat pull downs ( 3 sets ) of 8-12 reps
    then i do my bicep work

    the only adjustment im making is lowering my reps by 2 and most likely add the bb rows
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    Originally Posted by egyptianboyer View Post
    for back? i already made my mind up on this decision though, and only changing it cause my back is lagging
    no throughout the whole week, not just back. no sense tweaking youre back routine for better gains if your overall routine is schitt.
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    Originally Posted by Sohale31 View Post
    no throughout the whole week, not just back. no sense tweaking youre back routine for better gains if your overall routine is schitt.
    ill put it on here if you really want, but no point in changing a routine if its still working for me, despite the science or bro science
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    Originally Posted by Sohale31 View Post
    ? they are two different exercises. even though they target the same muscle group, doing both the same day isnt a problem at all. in fact i did them both today
    they do basically the same thing, not "totally different". But doing them both on the same day is fine
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    Originally Posted by FeelTheFear View Post
    they do basically the same thing, not "totally different". But doing them both on the same day is fine
    k then ill incorporate the adjustments and see how it goes for 1 month
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    Originally Posted by FeelTheFear View Post
    they do basically the same thing, not "totally different". But doing them both on the same day is fine
    but can you name a purpose/reasoning on why doing both movements to hit almost the same muscle in a workout would be beneficial and not counter productive?
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    IMO, both are great. I incorporate them in my back routine all the time. The only thing that I change up is my grip (overhand, underhand, staggered, or neutral). A lot of emphasis changes just through using various grips.
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    but can you name a purpose/reasoning on why doing both movements to hit almost the same muscle in a workout would be beneficial and not counter productive?
    No. Personally I like to reduce number of exercises and increase sets per exercise. Some people prefer to do more exercises and if that helps them not be bored then so be it.
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    Originally Posted by FeelTheFear View Post
    No. Personally I like to reduce number of exercises and increase sets per exercise. Some people prefer to do more exercises and if that helps them not be bored then so be it.
    ahh i see. but can't I just do like 4 sets of barbell rows or even just 3 ? instead of doing both movements in the workout
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    youll be fine......

    I do bb rows, pullups, cable row, and pulldowns all in the same workout
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    why would you the same exercise twice in your workout..If you want a bigger back focus more on traps,rear delts and lats.Bb row and cable row are just for the thickness
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    You should have 2 vertical and 2 horizontal pulling movements for back IMO anyway. It's s big muscle, it needs adequate volume
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    why would you the same exercise twice in your workout..If you want a bigger back focus more on traps,rear delts and lats.Bb row and cable row are just for the thickness
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    Originally Posted by Tb0282 View Post
    You should have 2 vertical and 2 horizontal pulling movements for back IMO anyway. It's s big muscle, it needs adequate volume
    ill do it for a month to see how it goes, but your sure 18 sets in total for back and biceps is too much? by the end of the workout
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    Originally Posted by egyptianboyer View Post
    ill do it for a month to see how it goes, but your sure 18 sets in total for back and biceps is too much? by the end of the workout
    18 sets of back and 18 sets of biceps or 18 sets of back with biceps?

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    Originally Posted by Tb0282 View Post
    18 sets of back and 18 sets of biceps or 18 sets of back with biceps?

    The latter is no problem.
    18 sets with both biceps and back. too much or okay?
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