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    How to tell if I have torn my rotator cuff or just strained/injured the area.

    After last weeks training, I felt a bit of pain when raising my left arm up vertically and twisting it. I have stopped lifting this week and will just train legs/cardio and see how this progresses. I have read that rotator cuff tears do not repair on themselves and it is really quite scary to imagine that I would need surgery if it was a tear, what are the chances of a rotator cuff tear at 17, isn't it more common in the elderly? Anyway when I can get back into the gym I will definitely be incorporating rotator cuff strengthening exercises into my workout, I wish I could have known how important it was.

    any brahs torn their rotator cuff? how can I tell if it's a tear or just an injury that will repair with rest, I hope it is not a tear.
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    rest for like 3 days, sounds similar to my issue however I'm not a doctor. Yeah start strengthening it also!
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    I injured mine a couple years ago and on the day I thought it was torn, sht myself. But the next day was all better. Go to a doc OP, if its been a week and you're still feeling it... Hope for the best and rest it the fuk up

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    Didnt read more than the title, but a completely torn muscle, depending on which of the 3(4) would result in difficulties (or loss of strength if partially damaged) rotating the arm inwards & outwards and/or having the arm partially 'hanging low' in the socket. The latter would also be a dislocation.

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    Originally Posted by zonee2k View Post
    Didnt read more than the title, but a completely torn muscle, depending on which of the 3(4) would result in difficulties rotating the arm inwards & outwards and/or having the arm partially 'hanging low' in the socket. The latter would also be a dislocation.

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    theres no pain whilst my arm is stationary, it becomes tender and painful to move so i have been trying to avoid that. I can move it if i want to, the pain is not extreme but it does hurt.
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    I have bad news, you will need a shoulder donor, that shoulder rotator is gone.


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    Brah I would just go get it checked out by a doctor. Chances are its just tweaked, but think of it this way, if it is a tear and you need surgery, its better to have it at 17 than at 40. It's only going to get worse if its a tear.

    A few months back I thought I had a tear in my rotator cuff (I played baseball when I was younger, lots of potential for injuries). Went to the doc, got some x-rays done, and they found out it was a downsloping acromium, which has something to do with how my shoulder bones are shaped. They put me through some physical therapy which helped alot. Just get it checked, you'll thank yourself in the long run either way.
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    Originally Posted by mctaggsm View Post
    Brah I would just go get it checked out by a doctor. Chances are its just tweaked, but think of it this way, if it is a tear and you need surgery, its better to have it at 17 than at 40. It's only going to get worse if its a tear.

    A few months back I thought I had a tear in my rotator cuff (I played baseball when I was younger, lots of potential for injuries). Went to the doc, got some x-rays done, and they found out it was a downsloping acromium, which has something to do with how my shoulder bones are shaped. They put me through some physical therapy which helped alot. Just get it checked, you'll thank yourself in the long run either way.
    Would it be fine to just wait a week and if it goes away by itself, assume it was not a tear?
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    I had thought I tore my left RC when some phaggot bumped into me while I was pressing 110lb db's a couple yrs ago and lost control of the db's and my left arm came down awkwardly. Boom, pain city and could hardly move the arm. Turned out that I just strained it after the ER doc took an Xray and then told me. However I could not lift for 4 months afterwards but was able to do cardio and lower body
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    If you stand straight and raise ur arms up to the sides all the way over ur head (with your thumbs pointing forward) does it hurt a lot? Do the same with thumbs facing out from the body. Does it hurt less?

    If so its probably 'just' and inflammation in ur sub acromial space.

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    Originally Posted by zonee2k View Post
    If you stand straight and raise ur arms up to the sides all the way over ur head (with your thumbs pointing forward) does it hurt a lot? Do the same with thumbs facing out from the body. Does it hurt less?

    If so its probably 'just' and inflammation in ur sub acromial space.

    See a physio about it if it doesnt go away in two weeks.

    hurts less with thumbs facing out from my body, can barely feel any pain when doing that. when my thumb is pointing forward I get slight pain when raising it however it is not extreme
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    Originally Posted by Aesthetx View Post
    hurts less with thumbs facing out from my body, can barely feel any pain when doing that. when my thumb is pointing forward I get slight pain when raising it however it is not extreme
    Would rest shoulders two weeks , if pain still is there see a professional.
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    Originally Posted by zonee2k View Post
    Would rest shoulders rep weeks , if pain still is there see a professional.
    thanks brah, measly reps.
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    Originally Posted by Aesthetx View Post
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    OP, please send me a copy of your MRI. I will look it over and let you know my opinion.
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    probably not torn, definitely not dislocated, otherwise youd be in agonizing pain, trust me haha. i figure i tweaked or slightly injured my rotator cuff a couple days ago, seems to feel almost 100% again, and its coming up to 3 days. (just to give you an idea)

    edit: should probably mention to stay off the shoulder for longer than when it feels better, if that makes sense. like rest it a bit longer, even if its feeling good.
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    Originally Posted by Aesthetx View Post
    Would it be fine to just wait a week and if it goes away by itself, assume it was not a tear?
    I mean I put off getting help for quite a long time. I wish I would have gone sooner. But if it's something minor it might just go away with rest, I know sometimes it can be embarrasing to go to a Dr for nothing.
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    hey dude. I dont think you have torn your rotator cuffs, sounds like a strain. But rest from the gym is a good idea. I always warm up for 5-10 minutes before I start my working sets to try avoid injury.

    On chest and especially shoulder day I warm rotators before sets; using between 1 and 4kg dumbells, elbows parellel to ground, then lifting my fists up and stopping inline with my body (as if I were punching someone in the face standing behind me). I do about 3 sets, maybe 20 (per arm) each set.

    also warming up on a machine shoulder press before i use free weights... and with the free weights using a weight I can handle comfortably with good form (crucial if no spotter)

    Another good tip, make sure you can press properly. Majority of people cant without arching. Practice sitting up straight leaning against a wall using a stick/bar (no weight) and press upright against the wall. (keeping your elbows and arms touching the wall as youre pressing, then translate this to the weighted presses) -a lot harder than it sounds.

    GL man, hope ive helped.

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    Let it rest for 2 weeks, ice it.. use it as little as you can, if it's still giving you issues then head to a doctor.

    I had a shoulder issue that lasted a little over a year, it might still not even be 100% healed up yet.. can't remember the last time I felt it hurt.
    But multiple doctors told me I didn't even need an MRI, so I just dealt with it and it very slowly but surely got better.

    An orthopedic specialist eventually found a movement that narrowed down the problem spot.. but it was some awkward movement she did with my arm. If you have pain through basic movements such as fully extending your arm and twisting it, you might want to consider just giving it 1 week then getting it checked out if pain continues.
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    My partial tear 10 years ago gave me clicking sounds in my shoulder and sharp pains at certain angles.
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    **** man I feel your pain, I had very similar pain 2 months ago and it got progressively worse. Now I can't lift at all (no chest, back, shoulder, triceps lifting) just legs and cardio. I can't even get into push up position without pain and shoulder giving out.. If i was you I would make a appt asap. I am waiting for my surgeon appt next month atm. Don't listen to misc e-doctors. I tried reading online and followed some rehab guide and it made my injury worse.
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    I think the best step to knowing if you tore your RC would be to get off the misc and schedule a Dr's appt. Shoulders are a bitch. My biceps tendon was torn 3/4 away from the labrum. I ignored it for awhile and then when I couldn't lift my arm above my head I gave in. I should have done it awhile ago. I felt great after the rehab was all done. Good luck brochacho.
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    Originally Posted by zonee2k View Post
    Didnt read more than the title, but a completely torn muscle, depending on which of the 3(4) would result in difficulties (or loss of strength if partially damaged) rotating the arm inwards & outwards and/or having the arm partially 'hanging low' in the socket. The latter would also be a dislocation.

    That and IMMENSE pain.

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    This..worst pain ever. I tore mine when benching..didn't notice it till after I lift the gym, took a shower and woke up in the middle of the night.

    Couldn't lift my arm at all for like 6 weeks.

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    Originally Posted by Aesthetx View Post
    theres no pain whilst my arm is stationary, it becomes tender and painful to move so i have been trying to avoid that. I can move it if i want to, the pain is not extreme but it does hurt.
    You most likely just have a shoulder impingement injury. Very common with lifting. Rest your shoulder for 2-3 weeks and begin lifting with light weights with strict form and build up from there. Focus on DB movements for shoulders and chest rather than bars. These type of injuries are a result of lack of flexibility in the front of the shoulder from repeated movements. Usually training to much chest and not enough back. You really need to work on stretching front of shoulder. Several ways of doing this. Use a door jam and put both arms straight out and lean forward as far as possible. Another way is to take a wooden dowel and hold out away from body wider than chest with arms out and straight. You should be able to take dowel and lift over head and keep going to touch your back.
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