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    Peanut butter and whole wheat bread good, white bread bad?

    From what I gather, most BB'ers think peanut butter and whole wheat are healthy and white bread is bad for you.
    I question those assumptions. Is it possible that white bread is actually healthier than both?

    My white bread has 3g protein, 3g fiber, and 70 calories per slice.
    My whole wheat bread has 4g protein, 3g fiber, and 110 calories per slice.

    So my white bread is actually more protein dense than my whole wheat bread.

    My peanut butter has 7g of protein, 16 grams of fat, and 210 calories per serving.
    Technically, for the same number of calories, white bread has more protein than peanut butter, AND the QUALITY of the protein appears to be the same if not better (54 PQ).

    So am I wrong to conclude that white bread can be healthier, macros-wise, than whole wheat bread or peanut butter, which a lot of people seem to swear are healthy?
    (Idk where my mind is, but I've been eating a lot of sandwiches lately and this white bread is damn delicious.)
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    White bread is NOT bad, neither is white rice or regular pasta etc

    If someone relies on bread/rice/pasta for your micronutrients or fibre that much that they can't consume white versions, they have bigger issues
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    Your post implies you assess nutritional quality based on protein content
    Mistake
    Also sounds like you are relying on PB and bread for protein
    mistake
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    Originally Posted by AlwaysTryin View Post
    White bread is NOT bad, neither is white rice or regular pasta etc

    If someone relies on bread/rice/pasta for your micronutrients or fibre that much that they can't consume white versions, they have bigger issues
    White rice has 205 calories per serving with a measly 4g of protein and 1g of fiber, so white bread might actually be 2-4x more nutrient-dense.

    Originally Posted by determined4000 View Post
    Your post implies you assess nutritional quality based on protein content
    Mistake
    Also sounds like you are relying on PB and bread for protein
    mistake
    I do tend to gauge the nutritional value of foods on both protein content and protein quality, but I don't think that's so unreasonable, is it?
    My main source of protein is actually meat (beef, pork, chicken, mmm!). Not environmentally sustainable, but just as cheap as whey protein where I live for the protein content and much tastier!
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    First of all I would say that most people (myself included) would say that peanut butter is very unhealthy for a person; it's processed junk. and wheat bread is alot better than white bread. Wheat bread is very high in fiber and retains many vitamins, such as iron, that white bread does not have. White bread is also processed junk.

    check out this article http://www.livestrong.com/article/89...r-white-bread/
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    Originally Posted by Malnourishment View Post
    White rice has 205 calories per serving with a measly 4g of protein and 1g of fiber, so white bread might actually be 2-4x more nutrient-dense.



    I do tend to gauge the nutritional value of foods on both protein content and protein quality, but I don't think that's so unreasonable, is it?
    My main source of protein is actually meat (beef, pork, chicken, mmm!).

    Why are you gauging the quality of carb sources on their protein content? Do you do the same with other macros?


    Originally Posted by Fbomb1990 View Post
    First of all I would say that most people (myself included) would say that peanut butter is very unhealthy for a person; it's processed junk. and wheat bread is alot better than white bread. Wheat bread is very high in fiber and retains many vitamins, such as iron, that white bread does not have. White bread is also processed junk.

    check out this article http://www.livestrong.com/article/89...r-white-bread/

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    By the way, I eat chit-tons of veggies and take Orange Triad so vitamins, minerals, and micronutrients = done. I am mostly worried about calories and macros like most other people who do not eat a diet that is primarily grain (an unhealthy diet to say the least).
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    Originally Posted by Malnourishment View Post
    White rice has 205 calories per serving with a measly 4g of protein and 1g of fiber, so white bread might actually be 2-4x more nutrient-dense.



    I do tend to gauge the nutritional value of foods on both protein content and protein quality, but I don't think that's so unreasonable, is it?
    My main source of protein is actually meat (beef, pork, chicken, mmm!). Not environmentally sustainable, but just as cheap as whey protein where I live for the protein content and much tastier!
    Bread, rice and even peanut butter are not usually eaten as a protein source (not that the protein doesn't count of course) they are mainly used for carb sources (bread and rice) and fat source (PB)
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    Originally Posted by necon76 View Post

    SMH. Could you be more wrong?
    Didn't you know wheat bread grows in fields and is virtually unprocessed once they cut it off the stalk ?
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    Originally Posted by MetilHed View Post
    Bread, rice and even peanut butter are not usually eaten as a protein source (not that the protein doesn't count of course) they are mainly used for carb sources (bread and rice) and fat source (PB)
    But a lot of people DO seem to eat peanut butter as a protein source.
    Vegans often eat things like PB and quinoa as their PRIMARY protein sources. Strangely, the oft hated white bread has the same protein content as quinoa (although the quality may be less)!
    Everything you eat throughout the day really adds up in terms of overall nutrition, so little differences count.

    Proof of protein sources claim: http://www.mindbodygreen.com/0-4771/...f-Protein.html
    (****ing vegans though...)
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    Originally Posted by Malnourishment View Post
    But a lot of people DO seem to eat peanut butter as a protein source.
    Vegans often eat things like PB and quinoa as their PRIMARY protein sources. Strangely, the oft hated white bread has the same protein content as quinoa (although the quality may be less)!
    1. Vegans dont = a lot of people
    2. Vegans do not eat a lot of protein
    3. If you are concerned with protein-->meats, egg whites, protein powders
    If you are concerned with nutrients--> veggies, fruits, etc
    If you are concerned with flavor, eat whatever type of sandwich you like the most
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    Originally Posted by necon76 View Post
    Why are you gauging the quality of carb sources on their protein content? Do you do the same with other macros?





    SMH. Could you be more wrong?
    You said it before I could.
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    I personally find that white bread clogs my bowels (overshare?)
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    Originally Posted by Leeuf View Post
    I personally find that white bread clogs my bowels (overshare?)
    PB does that to me way more. PB farts for dayz.
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    Originally Posted by Malnourishment View Post
    PB does that to me way more. PB farts for dayz.
    Haha... You should try some organic peanut butter. Like where you have to mix the oil back in. It made all the difference for me.
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    Originally Posted by Leeuf View Post
    I personally find that white bread clogs my bowels (overshare?)

    Try eating it instead.
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    Originally Posted by necon76 View Post
    Try eating it instead.
    I will try that next time. OH WAIT.
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    Originally Posted by Malnourishment View Post
    White rice has 205 calories per serving with a measly 4g of protein and 1g of fiber, so white bread might actually be 2-4x more nutrient-dense.
    What has this got to do with my post you quoted? I stated white foods aren't bad
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    Your first mistake was thinking I could give a **** what's healthy and what isn't. I eat peanut butter on whole wheat bread because I like whole wheat bread.

    Or better yet, I like slapping some of that **** on a whole wheat bagel.
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