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    New pre workout, Need info to choose.

    So, I've used Wicked from Innovative labs and tried Mesomorph from a friend 2 times, by that i mean i 2 times at the gym, never owned it. both hit very well. But i'm trying to choose between Sparta Nutrition Kraken Or NTel Pharma AREZ,

    Just by reading info it looks like Kraken has more Pump ingredients but Arez is more energy booster.

    Am i correct?
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    Originally Posted by icelandicteen View Post
    So, I've used Wicked from Innovative labs and tried Mesomorph from a friend 2 times, both hit very well. But i'm trying to choose between Sparta Nutrition Kraken Or NTel Pharma AREZ,

    Just by reading info it looks like Kraken has more Pump ingredients but Arez is more energy booster.

    Am i correct?
    Nothing is going to hit as hard as Mesomorph IMO. When I am looking for extra pump I add a half scoop of Hemavol and it's Pump city. However, If I had to choose betwen the two you mentioned I would go with Kraken
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    If you've used mesomorph it will be hard to beat in my opinion. Mesomorph has 300mg caffeine, 65 mg dmaa, and nitrates so it should hit hard and give you muscle fullness as well.
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    If you need to find a new pre from Mesomorph

    I think it's time for a stim break.

    Remember MORE is not always better when it comes to stimulants
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    If you haven't tried Kraken, you want to pick up some Kraken

    But if you are looking for more raw energy than Mesomorph it's time to go completely stim free for at least a couple weeks
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    Originally Posted by NurseGray View Post
    Nothing is going to hit as hard as Mesomorph IMO. When I am looking for extra pump I add a half scoop of Hemavol and it's Pump city. However, If I had to choose betwen the two you mentioned I would go with Kraken
    Yeah, it's gonna be hard to beat Medo, I just got an good deal on those 2, otherwise i would buy Meso. Kraken is packed with ingredinets!
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    Originally Posted by showjo1josh View Post
    If you've used mesomorph it will be hard to beat in my opinion. Mesomorph has 300mg caffeine, 65 mg dmaa, and nitrates so it should hit hard and give you muscle fullness as well.
    Only tried Meso 2 times, not bottle just 2 different times at the gym. Kraken has 100dmha and tons of pump stuff
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    Originally Posted by PatrickValo86 View Post
    If you need to find a new pre from Mesomorph

    I think it's time for a stim break.

    Remember MORE is not always better when it comes to stimulants
    Haven't used stim since December.
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    Originally Posted by icelandicteen View Post
    Only tried Meso 2 times, not bottle just 2 different times at the gym. Kraken has 100dmha and tons of pump stuff
    A full serving/dose of Kraken is 200mg DMHA. Which is less 'strong' than 65mg DMAA, it's different, and in many opinions, better. Good clean smooth energy and great focus and only needs 200mg caffeine and yes great for pumps
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    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    If you haven't tried Kraken, you want to pick up some Kraken

    But if you are looking for more raw energy than Mesomorph it's time to go completely stim free for at least a couple weeks

    Have you tried Kraken?
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    Originally Posted by icelandicteen View Post
    Have you tried Kraken?
    Oh yes. My favorite Pre. If I could only have one Pre it wouldn't be Kraken since it's not something to take 3-4+ times per week, that would be a 'just caffeine pre', but my favorite pre to take is definitely Kraken
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    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    Oh yes. My favorite Pre. If I could only have one Pre it wouldn't be Kraken since it's not something to take 3-4+ times per week, that would be a 'just caffeine pre', but my favorite pre to take is definitely Kraken

    'Just caffeine pre' as in no DMA or DMHA? Thats why you won't use Kraken too often right?


    I see you represent CL, I use GR2 4-5 days a week i like it.
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    I've heard a lot about Mesomorph.
    I'm quite inclined towards it.

    Is it safe product?

    At the time I had taken twice or three times some Jack3D, the former formula with 1,3 DMMA in it. I have to admit, there was nothing like it.
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    Originally Posted by PatrickValo86 View Post
    If you need to find a new pre from Mesomorph

    I think it's time for a stim break.

    Remember MORE is not always better when it comes to stimulants
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    Originally Posted by icelandicteen View Post
    'Just caffeine pre' as in no DMA or DMHA? Thats why you won't use Kraken too often right?


    I see you represent CL, I use GR2 4-5 days a week i like it.
    Yes, as in no DMAA or DMHA in a frequent-use Pre. That's why I've never used Kraken more than twice a week and often just once per week. It certainly works well every time that way though

    But I also have 3 (sometimes 2) days per week of zero stimulant and recently did an 8 day total stim break.
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    i try to always have a high stim option for the days i'm a bit run down and most other days I use an all in one.
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    Originally Posted by icelandicteen View Post
    'Just caffeine pre' as in no DMA or DMHA? Thats why you won't use Kraken too often right?


    I see you represent CL, I use GR2 4-5 days a week i like it.
    awesome, why not try white flood or the upcoming white flood classic then?
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    Originally Posted by icelandicteen View Post
    So, I've used Wicked from Innovative labs and tried Mesomorph from a friend 2 times, by that i mean i 2 times at the gym, never owned it. both hit very well. But i'm trying to choose between Sparta Nutrition Kraken Or NTel Pharma AREZ,

    Just by reading info it looks like Kraken has more Pump ingredients but Arez is more energy booster.

    Am i correct?
    If you're just choosing between those two, I've heard great things about Kraken.
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    Only thing stronger than Meso is Wicked and it's only by a little bit.

    As others have said, between the options you mentioned: Kraken. If I was in the situation myself: Meso.
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    Dust Extreme, Methyl-Efex, and God of Rage MAY be better than Meso depending on who you are. Be careful with Methyl-ephex. That chit has 100mg of DMAA.
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    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    Yes, as in no DMAA or DMHA in a frequent-use Pre. That's why I've never used Kraken more than twice a week and often just once per week. It certainly works well every time that way though

    But I also have 3 (sometimes 2) days per week of zero stimulant and recently did an 8 day total stim break.
    Yeah thats good, body gets used to stim fast! I'm thinking more to use on the "bad" energy less days, sometimes only music can hype me up.
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    Originally Posted by NumbNuh View Post
    Dust Extreme, Methyl-Efex, and God of Rage MAY be better than Meso depending on who you are. Be careful with Methyl-efex. That chit has 100mg of DMAA.
    Only heard of Dust, this Methyl looks killer pre workout!
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    awesome, why not try white flood or the upcoming white flood classic then?

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    Originally Posted by icelandicteen View Post
    Only tried Meso 2 times, not bottle just 2 different times at the gym. Kraken has 100dmha and tons of pump stuff
    I haven't tried Kraken before so maybe i'll give it a shot and see how i like it.
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