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    oxy elite pro...old formula or new?

    which would you guys say is better/gives better fat loss results?

    the original has dmaa in it but also 35mg less caffeine per pill....

    mainly trying to compare the thermogenic/focus and concentration effects of them...and the caffeine .
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    I haven't tried the new version yet but the original was a very good thermogenic. From what I can tell though, they changed the formula to omit the 1,3 but it seems just as strong as the original judging by people's experience with it.
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    Originally Posted by ericdose View Post
    I haven't tried the new version yet but the original was a very good thermogenic. From what I can tell though, they changed the formula to omit the 1,3 but it seems just as strong as the original judging by people's experience with it.
    yea i think im gona go with the original just because of the 1,3...i have exp with 1,3 and love the concentration...imo its unlike any other....plus havent used 1,3 in about 8 months so it will hit me pretty good as well...but i read somewere that 1,3 is bad for muscle growth?...do you or anyone else reading this think this to be true? based off of research ?
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    Originally Posted by kingarnold187 View Post
    yea i think im gona go with the original just because of the 1,3...i have exp with 1,3 and love the concentration...imo its unlike any other....plus havent used 1,3 in about 8 months so it will hit me pretty good as well...but i read somewere that 1,3 is bad for muscle growth?...do you or anyone else reading this think this to be true? based off of research ?
    I haven't read anything about 1,3 and it having an adverse effect on muscle growth.
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    Your muscles won't be growing when you're trying to lose fat anyway. But no, DMAA does not affect muscle growth.
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    Originally Posted by xLGx View Post
    Your muscles won't be growing when you're trying to lose fat anyway. But no, DMAA does not affect muscle growth.
    is this so? why have i gone from 320 lbs to were im at now whilst putting on muscle and getting stronger?

    i think as long as protein intake is at the right amount and calories/carbs/fats are at the right amounts that it is very possible to lose fat and gain muscle at the same time....its kinda been proven.
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    Originally Posted by kingarnold187 View Post
    is this so? why have i gone from 320 lbs to were im at now whilst putting on muscle and getting stronger?
    There are special instances when beginners make noob gains, but for the most part, bulk = muscle growth, cut = try your best at muscle preservation. If you truly believe you can add muscle and shed off fat instantaneously with ease, you'll end up hitting a wall and not understanding why.
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    Originally Posted by xLGx View Post
    There are special instances when beginners make noob gains, but for the most part, bulk = muscle growth, cut = try your best at muscle preservation. If you truly believe you can add muscle and shed off fat instantaneously with ease, you'll end up hitting a wall and not understanding why.
    mk well ive been at it for roughly 3 years now so i guess im still making"noob gains"

    im 19 % bf...all my abs show...mad?
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    19% BF and facial aesthetics 4/10.

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    Originally Posted by xLGx View Post
    19% BF and facial aesthetics 4/10.

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    actually was rated 6/10 on a previous"rate facial aesthetics" thread that turned into 50+ pages.......lulz....

    you have alot of talk for someone who doesnt even have a face pic and whos core/mid section looks like complete sht....=)
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    Originally Posted by kingarnold187 View Post
    actually was rated 6/10 on a previous"rate facial aesthetics" thread that turned into 50+ pages.......lulz....

    you have alot of talk for someone who doesnt even have a face pic and whos core/mid section looks like complete sht....=)
    <- 4 months lifting, ^ 3 years lifting. Let me see a picture of these said 19% BF abs of steel. I'd give you a 5 max if you didn't have firecrotch hair.
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    this is very funny.....says on your profile you live in wylie...im in rockwall...we are roughly 20 mins or less from ea other...i have a friend pass for the 24hr fitness here in rockwall.....message me sometime and we can meet up ill show you my abs and show you how to get some of your own....lol
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    Both formulas are a waste of $.
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    Originally Posted by RedSoxBrah View Post
    Both formulas are a waste of $.
    b....but................

    but for real though i know i dont need any supplement to lose fat..but i have 3-4 months before i go to be a camp counselor at this summer camp thing for kids with my gf and i want to look the best possible....taking OEP..or any other dietary/weightloss supplement cant be a total loss.

    when i took hydroxy stim i had good concentration/focus/energy and i sweated like a pig in a smoker pit.
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    Hey Kingarnold. What Ericdose said is pretty accurate. The chart below should help you to distinguish some differences between the two.

    We've had great feedback on the new formula so far, and I personally prefer it, however the original still has plenty of fans!

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    Originally Posted by kingarnold187 View Post
    mk well ive been at it for roughly 3 years now so i guess im still making"noob gains"

    im 19 % bf...all my abs show...mad?
    19% Bf it gross no thanks jeff
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    so i made up my mind today...



    mainly cause of the 1,3 and heard new formula sucked compared to old one...i wouldnt doubt it either seeing as no other ingredient really compares to 1,3

    ive tried hydroxy stim in the past...was good stuff imo..lets see how this stacks up...ive been stim and pre workout free for 2 months+..lets rock n roll >=)
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    Good call going with the original. Having using both now, the 1,3 still outweighs the extra caffeine in the new.
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    cant wait to pop the first pill tomorrow morning hehehehehe
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    Originally Posted by kingarnold187 View Post
    so i made up my mind today...


    mainly cause of the 1,3 and heard new formula sucked compared to old one...i wouldnt doubt it either seeing as no other ingredient really compares to 1,3

    ive tried hydroxy stim in the past...was good stuff imo..lets see how this stacks up...ive been stim and pre workout free for 2 months+..lets rock n roll >=)
    Whats with the spoon, you planning on shooting that chit up or what lol?

    Seriously tho good call on the original formula. The "stimulant" norcoclaurine in the new version has a half life of 8 minutes in humans
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    a spoon in the pic is commonly shown to provide proof that it is a real pic not a fake one or one just grabbed from the interwebs.

    i would never shoot up something like this! are you mad??


    the only thing i shoot up is creatine................................coolface.j pg

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    now that im overthinking all this again...wasnt there something about certaint stimulants or maybe 1,3 coming up in drug tests as meth? or something like that? i could be totaly wrong but i thought i saw something about that before...like if i had a piss test would i be kool ?
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    Awesome. Let me know what you think of the original!

    Originally Posted by kingarnold187 View Post
    now that im overthinking all this again...wasnt there something about certaint stimulants or maybe 1,3 coming up in drug tests as meth? or something like that? i could be totaly wrong but i thought i saw something about that before...like if i had a piss test would i be kool ?
    We don't keep up on the banned list for sports organizations and other such lists, so it'll be on you to check and make sure that all of the ingredients are legal. If you are referring to it causing a false positive...there was a lot of hype about 1,3-d and this issue some time ago. Really, if a false positive shows up on the first urine test they'll send it to a lab to check for what actually caused the positive result. I wouldn't be too concerned about it causing a positive for illicit drugs.
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    They were so confident that the DMAA-free replacement would be as stimulating as the original that they put an extra 35 mg of caffeine into every cap.
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    well ...took first one today 30 mins before morning food...which was 4 eggs 2 turkey sausage pattys and a ham and cheese croissant <omg was so good! followed by orange triad multi lol..no croissant tomorrow though as i am out now =(....im a rather big dude so i was thinking i should have taken 2 but i wanted to abide by the warning label since i have never taken this product before and i was going out today searching for my soon to be 2nd job and didnt want to be sweating like a pig due to me not following the instructions hehe...i did feel a slight uplift and wee bit of energy boost however i am going to take 2 tomorrow as at my current job i have to unload the truck..its a simple retail job....so tomorrow i think i will have a better experience...i think i will take 2 in the morning and in 3-4 days start taking another 1 pill 5 hours later...soo stay tuned for tomorrows post =)

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    Originally Posted by kingarnold187 View Post
    well ...took first one today 30 mins before morning food...which was 4 eggs 2 turkey sausage pattys and a ham and cheese croissant <omg was so good! followed by orange triad multi lol..no croissant tomorrow though as i am out now =(....im a rather big dude so i was thinking i should have taken 2 but i wanted to abide by the warning label since i have never taken this product before and i was going out today searching for my soon to be 2nd job and didnt want to be sweating like a pig due to me not following the instructions hehe...i did feel a slight uplift and wee bit of energy boost however i am going to take 2 tomorrow as at my current job i have to unload the truck..its a simple retail job....so tomorrow i think i will have a better experience...i think i will take 2 in the morning and in 3-4 days start taking another 1 pill 5 hours later...soo stay tuned for tomorrows post =)

    and thank you classic for your much appreciated input =)
    Any time! Let me know how 2 capsules works out for you.
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    well change of plans today! boss called me and said i didnt need to come in cause truck was kinda small!

    so i said fk it and did legs 4 hrs erlier than expected! ......i have not sweated this much in a long time...i did nothing diffrent in my leg day routine...

    did 4 sets of squats with 200lbs for 12 reps ea set...was sweating hard after 2nd set..then did 3 sets of walking lunges with 35 lb dumbells
    2 sets of stiff leg deadlifts

    decided to go crazy and throw 4 sets of rows in with leg day???

    this is post workout and im sitting here chillin and sweat is still coming and energy is still good...i started my workout roughly 3 hours after i took the pills and ate breakfast......break-fast consisted of 4 eggs,2 turkey sausage pattys,1 slice of cheese and 1 cup of oatmeal
    the effects of oep were not diminished by the food as i was expecting...this is post workout review and i am very alert and have good energy still.
    so far so good!
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    OEP is a solid thermo. Are you using a pre with it as well? I'm going to try stacking Oxy with Compound 20 in a month or so to lose a bit of weight I've accumulated this winter
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    Originally Posted by kingarnold187 View Post
    im 19 % bf...all my abs show...mad?
    Sorry man but that's highly suspect^.....But anyways the original OEP worked really well for me, better then Hydroxy and Lipo6, goodluck though
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